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Introduced in early 1915 by a divisional commander of the A.I.F. as a simple but secure means of identification for units of his own formation, the system had by 1918 spread throughout a force which had expanded to comprise almost seven divisions, with additional corps, army, and L of C units, and had assumed such a status amongst the members of that force that Lieutenant-General Sir John Monash, GOC Australian Corps, was to record in mid 1918 that "...The badge is highly prized by the individual soldier as the only means of identifying him with his Unit or Service, and is a most powerful factor in esprit de corps and the pride of the soldier in his Regiment .... [it] is a most important factor in the maintenance of discipline and also in training .... organization before and during battle, and reorganization after battle are greatly facilitated .... The loyalty of the Australian soldier to his regimental badge is to be experienced in the Field in order to be fully appreciated . See note
Note. From HQ Australian Corps Letter No. 20/75, 17.7.1918. AWM 25, item 187/4. Lt-Gen. Monash to the Commandant, AIF HQ, London, dealing with the unsatisfactory position regarding the supply of colour patches by the British authorities and their apparent misunderstanding of the importance to the AlF of this nature of distinction.
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Enderwigginau ( talk) 07:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I can't seem to find how to spread images across the page.... I'd like to spread the 1, 2, 3 Bde HQ patches across the page and then drop the Battalion patches in columns below each HQ. Enderwigginau ( talk) 09:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
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Tried to add a Signals section into 2AIF specifically to display the NGAWW colour Patch as it is an "odd" but couldn't get it to work. Enderwigginau ( talk) 05:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Lots of changes and looking good. I would suggest the that the Independent Coys section be moved to BEFORE the Commando section, and include ALL independent coys. Then mention those units in the other sections as having changed from Independent status.
Puggarees should also be shifted to a new article, as this is Unit Colour Patches, not Pugarees.
Enderwigginau ( talk) 22:01, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
The current article is, as nicely pointed out, way too large (it's larger than, for eg., the article on the current global situation... This appears to be mainly due to the excessive amount of images and extraneous detail about the history of the relevant units. What I suggest is:
Anybody disagree with this? RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Exhibit A
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3rd Australian General Hospital patch, 1918 version, with ANZAC "A" badge, as worn by Sister Muriel Burbury. From Jericho in Tasmania, when Burbury enlisted on 18 May 1915 she was already a qualified nurse with experience in medical wards, surgical wards and operating theatres, including time as Sister in Charge. She embarked almost immediately for the war, on 20 May 1915. She served with 3rd Australian General Hospital on Lemnos Island from 9 August 1915 until 11 January 1916. She then served at Alexandria from January to August 1916, then later at Abbeville, France and in England. As was very common among the nurses, because of their exposure to sick soldiers in crowded hospitals[233][234], Burbury was hospitalised several times herself for sickness, including thirty two days in July–August 1917 for what was written in her record as 'influenza', although diagnoses were not often confirmed with laboratory analyses.[235] Sister Burbury embarked for Australia on around 9 August 1919 and was discharged from the Army on 16 January 1920.[236] |
Ok so given how the above is going, I have started with this; I removed most of the <gallery> tags in what I have checked so far; move some stuff to relevant articles. I kept a rather haphazard but hopefully representative portion of the images which can be trimmed down further. I'll keep working on it over the next few days since this will obviously require a good amount of time... Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
It is good to see the article taken back to almost its original form. I would suggest adding some indicative sections for unit tyoes not already included, and "Odds" such as Commando, Tobruk and NGAWW to show how colour patches changed to represent non-traditional usage. Enderwigginau ( talk) 23:06, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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Introduced in early 1915 by a divisional commander of the A.I.F. as a simple but secure means of identification for units of his own formation, the system had by 1918 spread throughout a force which had expanded to comprise almost seven divisions, with additional corps, army, and L of C units, and had assumed such a status amongst the members of that force that Lieutenant-General Sir John Monash, GOC Australian Corps, was to record in mid 1918 that "...The badge is highly prized by the individual soldier as the only means of identifying him with his Unit or Service, and is a most powerful factor in esprit de corps and the pride of the soldier in his Regiment .... [it] is a most important factor in the maintenance of discipline and also in training .... organization before and during battle, and reorganization after battle are greatly facilitated .... The loyalty of the Australian soldier to his regimental badge is to be experienced in the Field in order to be fully appreciated . See note
Note. From HQ Australian Corps Letter No. 20/75, 17.7.1918. AWM 25, item 187/4. Lt-Gen. Monash to the Commandant, AIF HQ, London, dealing with the unsatisfactory position regarding the supply of colour patches by the British authorities and their apparent misunderstanding of the importance to the AlF of this nature of distinction.
from - http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-badges/patches/0-all_units.htm
Enderwigginau ( talk) 07:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I can't seem to find how to spread images across the page.... I'd like to spread the 1, 2, 3 Bde HQ patches across the page and then drop the Battalion patches in columns below each HQ. Enderwigginau ( talk) 09:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
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Tried to add a Signals section into 2AIF specifically to display the NGAWW colour Patch as it is an "odd" but couldn't get it to work. Enderwigginau ( talk) 05:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Lots of changes and looking good. I would suggest the that the Independent Coys section be moved to BEFORE the Commando section, and include ALL independent coys. Then mention those units in the other sections as having changed from Independent status.
Puggarees should also be shifted to a new article, as this is Unit Colour Patches, not Pugarees.
Enderwigginau ( talk) 22:01, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
The current article is, as nicely pointed out, way too large (it's larger than, for eg., the article on the current global situation... This appears to be mainly due to the excessive amount of images and extraneous detail about the history of the relevant units. What I suggest is:
Anybody disagree with this? RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Exhibit A
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3rd Australian General Hospital patch, 1918 version, with ANZAC "A" badge, as worn by Sister Muriel Burbury. From Jericho in Tasmania, when Burbury enlisted on 18 May 1915 she was already a qualified nurse with experience in medical wards, surgical wards and operating theatres, including time as Sister in Charge. She embarked almost immediately for the war, on 20 May 1915. She served with 3rd Australian General Hospital on Lemnos Island from 9 August 1915 until 11 January 1916. She then served at Alexandria from January to August 1916, then later at Abbeville, France and in England. As was very common among the nurses, because of their exposure to sick soldiers in crowded hospitals[233][234], Burbury was hospitalised several times herself for sickness, including thirty two days in July–August 1917 for what was written in her record as 'influenza', although diagnoses were not often confirmed with laboratory analyses.[235] Sister Burbury embarked for Australia on around 9 August 1919 and was discharged from the Army on 16 January 1920.[236] |
Ok so given how the above is going, I have started with this; I removed most of the <gallery> tags in what I have checked so far; move some stuff to relevant articles. I kept a rather haphazard but hopefully representative portion of the images which can be trimmed down further. I'll keep working on it over the next few days since this will obviously require a good amount of time... Cheers, RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
It is good to see the article taken back to almost its original form. I would suggest adding some indicative sections for unit tyoes not already included, and "Odds" such as Commando, Tobruk and NGAWW to show how colour patches changed to represent non-traditional usage. Enderwigginau ( talk) 23:06, 11 August 2020 (UTC)