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I'm glad this article has been created, especially since I'm working on the Indigenous Australians article at the moment. Just wondering if the article and title should include Torres Strait Islander people? I know they're different cultures, but some of the issues relating to assertion of identity in Australia today are interlinked. Think Eddie Mabo, the Closing the Gap government strategy, Stolen Generations, and all of the issues which affect or afflict both groups. Just one ref found on a quick Google, I'm sure much more could be found... [1] Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 05:26, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hmmm, having embarked upon expanding this article without checking first, discovered this: Aboriginal Australians#Terminology. I cannot do any more at the moment, but perhaps others can discuss how best to tackle this, i.e. where to keep most of the content. I'll put a note on the other article's talk page too. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
This addition of "Fair skin" by ScottDavis says:
Author Bruce Pascoe's Aboriginal identity was questioned by Bolt and by several members of the Aboriginal groups he identified with, particularly Josephine Cashman.
However Pascoe
... found Aboriginal ancestors ...including from Tasmania (Palawa), from the Bunurong people of the Kulin nation of Victoria, and the Yuin of southern New South Wales. He identified himself as Koori by the age of 40.
Whereas Josephine Cashman
... is ...of Warrimay heritage. ... belongs to the Warrimay/Worimi and Aranda peoples and has connections with Marika and Yunupingu people
There does not appear to be a common group shared by Pascoe and Cashman. Have I missed something? Does one of more of the articles need clarify or rewording? Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Aboriginal identity. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 04:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Hidden Generations does not appear to be in widespread use (googling "Hidden generations" Australia), and is also used for other topics both in Australia and elsewhere. While it is no doubt true that Aboriginal people hid their Aboriginal identities, it just doesn't seem that there are strong enough sources to back up the use of this terminology. I would suggest compressing and merging this article (which should probably be in draftspace anyway) into Australian Aboriginal identity, Stolen Generations and/or another article related to this subject. Else PROD delete. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Why is it always non-Aboriginal people who think they have a right to comment on Aboriginal people's identity? This is just another form of colonisation. If Aboriginal people are saying it needs to be separate, as they clearly are by placing it separately, leave it alone, or just continue good old colonial behaviour as always, which is pretty tiresome. Deeayenai ( talk) 04:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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I'm glad this article has been created, especially since I'm working on the Indigenous Australians article at the moment. Just wondering if the article and title should include Torres Strait Islander people? I know they're different cultures, but some of the issues relating to assertion of identity in Australia today are interlinked. Think Eddie Mabo, the Closing the Gap government strategy, Stolen Generations, and all of the issues which affect or afflict both groups. Just one ref found on a quick Google, I'm sure much more could be found... [1] Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 05:26, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
References
Hmmm, having embarked upon expanding this article without checking first, discovered this: Aboriginal Australians#Terminology. I cannot do any more at the moment, but perhaps others can discuss how best to tackle this, i.e. where to keep most of the content. I'll put a note on the other article's talk page too. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
This addition of "Fair skin" by ScottDavis says:
Author Bruce Pascoe's Aboriginal identity was questioned by Bolt and by several members of the Aboriginal groups he identified with, particularly Josephine Cashman.
However Pascoe
... found Aboriginal ancestors ...including from Tasmania (Palawa), from the Bunurong people of the Kulin nation of Victoria, and the Yuin of southern New South Wales. He identified himself as Koori by the age of 40.
Whereas Josephine Cashman
... is ...of Warrimay heritage. ... belongs to the Warrimay/Worimi and Aranda peoples and has connections with Marika and Yunupingu people
There does not appear to be a common group shared by Pascoe and Cashman. Have I missed something? Does one of more of the articles need clarify or rewording? Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Aboriginal identity. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 04:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Hidden Generations does not appear to be in widespread use (googling "Hidden generations" Australia), and is also used for other topics both in Australia and elsewhere. While it is no doubt true that Aboriginal people hid their Aboriginal identities, it just doesn't seem that there are strong enough sources to back up the use of this terminology. I would suggest compressing and merging this article (which should probably be in draftspace anyway) into Australian Aboriginal identity, Stolen Generations and/or another article related to this subject. Else PROD delete. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Why is it always non-Aboriginal people who think they have a right to comment on Aboriginal people's identity? This is just another form of colonisation. If Aboriginal people are saying it needs to be separate, as they clearly are by placing it separately, leave it alone, or just continue good old colonial behaviour as always, which is pretty tiresome. Deeayenai ( talk) 04:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)