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Wikipedians wishing to contribute with an Australian focus are encouraged to take a look at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board -- Chuq 02:44, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Australian is supererogatory with reference to Aborigines because of the context. scanos
See also essentially means the same thing as Other topics. Why don't we just follow the convention and use see also? I havent seen one other article that has listed Other topics under Main article. Let's stay consistent.
Many of the topics listed under other topics are listed under ==Miscellaneous topics== on all other country template. I have standardized that for this article. Do not revert.
Why is military and foreign relations put under politics? Australian Prime Ministers under history and not politics? Communications and transportation under demographics! These are definately not the same topic.
-- Jiang 20:38, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I did look over the articles I moved to miscellanous. Those are standard country template components taken from the CIA factbook. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countries. Thank you. -- Jiang 22:39, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Don't want to address my concerns? So you want this to be a flame war? Okay, then, what other country templates have you regularly edited? Why dont you just stop buggerising about with the page until you have familiarised yourself with the country template?
I've looked over the articles I rearranged. They belong where I put them in order to standardize the template. No other articles have this silly format other topics listed under main article. -- Jiang 22:47, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I was quite deliberately not "answering your concerns", Jiang. Tim Starling already answered them: I intervened here not as a direct participant, but in order to maintain the established and successful page layout - in other words, this is essentially a dispute between you and Tim Starling. I stepped in when I saw that you had reverted Tim's revert of your unwise changes. Tannin 22:56, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
What was the explaination? "it's not really something different to see, it's part of the same topic"? My issue here is with a lack of standardization and relation between lumped articles. If it were the same topic, the "Other topics" label would not be necessary. How is other topics different from see also? Why should these articles be listed under the main article heading instead of below the section? What makes this situation so special that it is inapproprate for all other articles I have seen in WP?
I don't see the logic behind lumping the articles under the topics they are placed under. Like all other countries, these articles are basically copied text from the CIA factbook/state dept. What makes Australia's transporation statistics so special that it should be listed under "demographics" rather than "miscellaneous". What's wrong with a miscenllaneous section?
If you and Tim believe the template needs to be changed, go argue that at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Countries. Don't unilaterally change the agreed upon style and format and make WP inconsistent. -- Jiang 23:11, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Look, I don't have time for this shit right now - I have to go. Meanwhile, just look over the mess you are making. For example, right in the first topic (history) you have blown away the section with a great deal of Australian political history: Australian Prime Ministers. Your "work WITH me" edit summaries are highly misleading - you had the oportunity to work WITH Tim, but chose not to. You had the opportunity to DISCUSS your proposed changes with the people who work in this topic area, but chose not to. For now, just go ahead and bugger it up, I'll fix it when I get back tonight. Tannin
I have protected this page. Of couse, the protection is entirely symbolic in this case.
I provide these data for the interest of the disputants:
On another topic, this whole conflict reminds me a lot of the recent edit war over VfD. Two experienced and trustworthy contributors get overexcited and somehow forget that anyone's change is easily undone. It just doesn't make sense to get into a revert war - it's wasted effort! It doesn't matter what format the article is in for a few hours today or tomorrow; continuous reverting is a hostile action, and is entirely counterproductive to the disputants' efforts to understand and address each other's concerns. -- Cyan 00:55, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Thank you for protecting the page, Cyan. However, you have protected the wrong version. In the case of a dispute, it is conventional and proper to use the last version prior to the dispute, and most certainly not the version that the instigator of the dispute is insisting on. Tannin
The page history was a little too messy to determine which version was pre-edit war, what with Jiang's edit being reverted by Tim Starling, whose changes were then reverted by Jiang and then reverted back and forth by Jiang and yourself, and other contributors making small changes in the middle. Under the premise that the question of which particular version is preserved for the cooling-off period is far less important than just moving the action to the talk page, I simply protected it in the condition I found it. In short, neither revision was "wrong" - both were temporary, and the version I protected on was luck of the draw. -- Cyan 21:05, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Let's get one thing straight right away. We are not talking about my version here, nor have I been involved in the dispute, until I stepped in to protect other people's work from Jiang's revert-on-sight policy. (Read the edit history: it's all there.) I would indeed have protected the page earlier today - it is the duty of all sysops to stop revert-happy stupidities, and to do our best to allow the peope who create and improve content to get on with things free from interference by the likes of Jiang. Unfortunately, I had a 9:00AM appointment, and while protecting a page takes practically no time at all, it takes more time than I had available to post a properly detailed sest of reasons. Tannin
On returning, I see that someone has protected the wrong version! This is crazy. If Jiang wants to horn in here (where he has no expertise and has never contributed anything of note), then the onus is on him to persuade the people who are working on these pages that his suggestions are good ones. Tannin
Now, let us turn to the meat of the matter, and examine the merits of the Jiang insists on so mindlessly:
Right at the top, he deletes the links to two important Australian history topics: Australian Constitutional History, and Australian Prime Ministers. Next he deletes the links aain: this time to three articles about political matters, only one of which gets a mention in the "see also" section he adds. I don't think anyone has an objection to setting a good, standard format and sticking to it - but deleting important links purely in order to mindlessly impose a particular format is not a good idea.
Insisting on doing this in the face of objections (rather than being prepared to discuss things and work towards a mutually acceptable result) is very poor behaviour indeed. Tannin 09:34, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If I have to use control-F to find a link to an important article, whoever laid out the page is incompetent. Tannin
OK, let's try this. With your agreement, I'll unprotect the page and make what I see as the minimum required changes to it (i.e., edit your version so that the links work sensibly, as opposed to a complete revert of it). That should take 5 minutes or so. Then, you run your eye over the changes. If you are happy with them, problem solved. If we can't agree on them, then we revert to the current version (it really should be Tim's version, but I'll let that point go for the time being) and protect it again. Fair enough?
(Note that this woud not commit any other users, of course, only you and me.) Tannin
Okay...go ahead. I think it basically amounts to changing "a [[Prime Minister of Australia|prime minister]]" to "the [[Prime Minister of Australia]]". What else do you propose to change? (It's already 3:22 AM here. Go ahead and edit as you see fit. I won't be checking until a few hours later.) -- Jiang 10:22, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Give me 2 minutes. Tannin
Done. Probably a duplicate or two there still, bit close enough to give a general idea, in any case. Tannin
I just spent about 30 seconds scanning over this debate, so I can't comment in depth. But Jiang is right in one respect: we should go over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries and make our case. Our formatting is better than that of the other countries. I didn't apply my changes to the rest of the countries, due to selfish patriotic pride. -- Tim Starling 13:06, Sep 21, 2003 (UTC)
No agreement from Jiang, restored the protection. (Correctly. it should be restored to the version BEFORE his edits, but in order to demonstrate fairness I restored Jiang's disputed version. I leave it to another sysop to restore the last non-controversial version, however - i.e., the Tim Starling version. Tannin 00:22, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Okay, I have now made my case at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. -- Tim Starling 01:41, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)
Summary of Tannin's edits and my comments:
-- Jiang 01:44, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Just because Australian birds are unique does not elevate them to a higher category. If australian birds could munch off the heads of humans, they would still be birds. Being special does not make them "all animals." It's not about the importance. It's about the scope of the article. If you think birds are so important, create a new section. If the section is not entitled "birds", it can't be considered a "main article." Get you vocabulary straight. -- Jiang 05:28, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Even if we put Australian birds in the main articles of "Flora and Fauna", people may not realise how important it is. A subsection "birds" under "Flora and Fauna" does a better job than that. (a view from the point of a layman) -- wshun 05:44, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
(marsupials) would make Australian mammals a useful article. In what way are Australian birds so important that doesn't apply to Australian mammals? Tuf-Kat 06:03, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)
The implication of some type of entititlement or expertise here which disallows edits by non-Aussies or non-biologists is quite un-Wikipedian. Smells like a strain of m:academic_standards_kick. Let's get less abusive and get back to the content. Fuzheado
Please add pl:Australia user:80.55.19.182
Are you sure? As far as I can tell, Jiang's sole edit after I protected it was in the period where Tannin had unprotected it to see if Jiang would start reverting again.
When I enacted the protection, I realized that the people who would be most tangibly affected were the innocent bystanders. I felt this was unfortunate, but necessary. My goal was to move the action out of the article namespace and into the talk namespace; even though the protection was symbolic, in the sense that it had no hard-security-type binding power on the disputing parties, I believe it was effective nonetheless. (Symbols have power, after all.) -- Cyan 01:09, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Is anyone any good with maps? The current one needs correcting: the Southern Ocean is mislabelled as the Indian Ocean. Tannin
Is there anything in wikipedia about the rabbit fence? I don't even know how to look it up :) Kyk 06:46, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This might sound odd, but I'm surprised at the Jervis Bay Territory being treated like a 'regular' territory. Sure, it is one, but it's not at the same 'level' as NT or the ACT. I always thought JBT was part of the ACT myself. If separate, I thought it would be on the same level as Macquarie Island or Christmas Island or Cocos Islands, etc.-- Chuq 04:17, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I have removed some external links. For following reasons.
The link to the Worldwide press freedom index was out of date, also the freedom of the press in Australia is not even mention in the article.
The link to AUSMAG was removed because it didn't have much information on the site.
I replaced the link to the Sunnybank directory with a link the the Australia section of the Open Directory Project because it is more comprehensive.
-- Popsracer 12:50, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I removed the HRP reference from the main page, because it gives an amusing little hobby of a few cranks a prominence that it does not deserve. Nobody else takes the claims seriously, unlike, say, the "Provisional Aboriginal Republic" stunt pulled by Michael Mansell and his Tasmanian Aboriginal buddies in the 1980's. -- Robert Merkel 12:39, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
Australia had been removed from Category:Oceanic countries and added to Category:Australia. However all sub-sub-articles of Category:Countries should only contain country articles. Category:Australia contains many more articles that just Australia, for example, Australian fauna. See the Beatles/John Lennon example at Wikipedia talk:Categorization -- Chuq 00:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The article contains "sixth-largest country in the world (geographically), the only one to occupy an entire continent, and the largest in Australasia" in the opening paragraph. This contains mutually contradictory statements:
Will those with an interest in this article please modify this as required? Jamesday 15:19, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I have removed the SAMPA and IPA pronunciations from the first sentence of this article. They were far too long for the first sentence (it is jarring for the reader) and the IPA ones do not display properly on a standard XP/IE setup. I have placed them in their own section entitled "pronunciation" until someone can write a more interesting thing about the pronunciation (though I cannot see how it can be made to be interesting at all). Anyway, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. We have Wiktionary for things like pronunciation. - Mark 05:51, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I've just removed the following categories from the article (which were just added today):
Category:Geochemistry Category:Earthquakes Category:Geography Category:Geologic timescale Category:Geology Category:Geophysics Category:Plate tectonics Category:Seismology
This may suit Gondwana and Laurasia, for example, but I think even for them, it's a bit over the top seeing as all of these could be condensed into the one category, if needed. (Probably Plate tectonics, but I'll leave that to someone more experienced in the area.)
As far as this article goes, I don't think this is the right place for this sort of category - because it is about Australia the country, not Australia the continent, Australasia, Oceania or the Indo-Australian tectonic plate.
Maybe an article Australia (continent) is needed? Thought I wouldn't want to encourage this if it isn't definitely needed.
Chuq 00:11, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
For the pronunciation section in the Australia page?
What do you mean don't forces fonts?
How are we suppost to see the IPA symbols?
How is "r" incorrect?
-- 203.220.171.162 11:55, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I am considering reverting this; even if it is true, I don't think that Violet Crumble warrants a link as an Australian-related article - it's just another chocolate bar. -- Chuq 02:46, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I was reading the Australia page, and I cannot figure out why there is no distinction between Australia the continent and Australia the country. Since many people confuse Oceania and Australia, should this not be made more clear? Just a thought.
--LuYu
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Wikipedians wishing to contribute with an Australian focus are encouraged to take a look at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board -- Chuq 02:44, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Australian is supererogatory with reference to Aborigines because of the context. scanos
See also essentially means the same thing as Other topics. Why don't we just follow the convention and use see also? I havent seen one other article that has listed Other topics under Main article. Let's stay consistent.
Many of the topics listed under other topics are listed under ==Miscellaneous topics== on all other country template. I have standardized that for this article. Do not revert.
Why is military and foreign relations put under politics? Australian Prime Ministers under history and not politics? Communications and transportation under demographics! These are definately not the same topic.
-- Jiang 20:38, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I did look over the articles I moved to miscellanous. Those are standard country template components taken from the CIA factbook. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countries. Thank you. -- Jiang 22:39, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Don't want to address my concerns? So you want this to be a flame war? Okay, then, what other country templates have you regularly edited? Why dont you just stop buggerising about with the page until you have familiarised yourself with the country template?
I've looked over the articles I rearranged. They belong where I put them in order to standardize the template. No other articles have this silly format other topics listed under main article. -- Jiang 22:47, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I was quite deliberately not "answering your concerns", Jiang. Tim Starling already answered them: I intervened here not as a direct participant, but in order to maintain the established and successful page layout - in other words, this is essentially a dispute between you and Tim Starling. I stepped in when I saw that you had reverted Tim's revert of your unwise changes. Tannin 22:56, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
What was the explaination? "it's not really something different to see, it's part of the same topic"? My issue here is with a lack of standardization and relation between lumped articles. If it were the same topic, the "Other topics" label would not be necessary. How is other topics different from see also? Why should these articles be listed under the main article heading instead of below the section? What makes this situation so special that it is inapproprate for all other articles I have seen in WP?
I don't see the logic behind lumping the articles under the topics they are placed under. Like all other countries, these articles are basically copied text from the CIA factbook/state dept. What makes Australia's transporation statistics so special that it should be listed under "demographics" rather than "miscellaneous". What's wrong with a miscenllaneous section?
If you and Tim believe the template needs to be changed, go argue that at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Countries. Don't unilaterally change the agreed upon style and format and make WP inconsistent. -- Jiang 23:11, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Look, I don't have time for this shit right now - I have to go. Meanwhile, just look over the mess you are making. For example, right in the first topic (history) you have blown away the section with a great deal of Australian political history: Australian Prime Ministers. Your "work WITH me" edit summaries are highly misleading - you had the oportunity to work WITH Tim, but chose not to. You had the opportunity to DISCUSS your proposed changes with the people who work in this topic area, but chose not to. For now, just go ahead and bugger it up, I'll fix it when I get back tonight. Tannin
I have protected this page. Of couse, the protection is entirely symbolic in this case.
I provide these data for the interest of the disputants:
On another topic, this whole conflict reminds me a lot of the recent edit war over VfD. Two experienced and trustworthy contributors get overexcited and somehow forget that anyone's change is easily undone. It just doesn't make sense to get into a revert war - it's wasted effort! It doesn't matter what format the article is in for a few hours today or tomorrow; continuous reverting is a hostile action, and is entirely counterproductive to the disputants' efforts to understand and address each other's concerns. -- Cyan 00:55, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Thank you for protecting the page, Cyan. However, you have protected the wrong version. In the case of a dispute, it is conventional and proper to use the last version prior to the dispute, and most certainly not the version that the instigator of the dispute is insisting on. Tannin
The page history was a little too messy to determine which version was pre-edit war, what with Jiang's edit being reverted by Tim Starling, whose changes were then reverted by Jiang and then reverted back and forth by Jiang and yourself, and other contributors making small changes in the middle. Under the premise that the question of which particular version is preserved for the cooling-off period is far less important than just moving the action to the talk page, I simply protected it in the condition I found it. In short, neither revision was "wrong" - both were temporary, and the version I protected on was luck of the draw. -- Cyan 21:05, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Let's get one thing straight right away. We are not talking about my version here, nor have I been involved in the dispute, until I stepped in to protect other people's work from Jiang's revert-on-sight policy. (Read the edit history: it's all there.) I would indeed have protected the page earlier today - it is the duty of all sysops to stop revert-happy stupidities, and to do our best to allow the peope who create and improve content to get on with things free from interference by the likes of Jiang. Unfortunately, I had a 9:00AM appointment, and while protecting a page takes practically no time at all, it takes more time than I had available to post a properly detailed sest of reasons. Tannin
On returning, I see that someone has protected the wrong version! This is crazy. If Jiang wants to horn in here (where he has no expertise and has never contributed anything of note), then the onus is on him to persuade the people who are working on these pages that his suggestions are good ones. Tannin
Now, let us turn to the meat of the matter, and examine the merits of the Jiang insists on so mindlessly:
Right at the top, he deletes the links to two important Australian history topics: Australian Constitutional History, and Australian Prime Ministers. Next he deletes the links aain: this time to three articles about political matters, only one of which gets a mention in the "see also" section he adds. I don't think anyone has an objection to setting a good, standard format and sticking to it - but deleting important links purely in order to mindlessly impose a particular format is not a good idea.
Insisting on doing this in the face of objections (rather than being prepared to discuss things and work towards a mutually acceptable result) is very poor behaviour indeed. Tannin 09:34, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If I have to use control-F to find a link to an important article, whoever laid out the page is incompetent. Tannin
OK, let's try this. With your agreement, I'll unprotect the page and make what I see as the minimum required changes to it (i.e., edit your version so that the links work sensibly, as opposed to a complete revert of it). That should take 5 minutes or so. Then, you run your eye over the changes. If you are happy with them, problem solved. If we can't agree on them, then we revert to the current version (it really should be Tim's version, but I'll let that point go for the time being) and protect it again. Fair enough?
(Note that this woud not commit any other users, of course, only you and me.) Tannin
Okay...go ahead. I think it basically amounts to changing "a [[Prime Minister of Australia|prime minister]]" to "the [[Prime Minister of Australia]]". What else do you propose to change? (It's already 3:22 AM here. Go ahead and edit as you see fit. I won't be checking until a few hours later.) -- Jiang 10:22, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Give me 2 minutes. Tannin
Done. Probably a duplicate or two there still, bit close enough to give a general idea, in any case. Tannin
I just spent about 30 seconds scanning over this debate, so I can't comment in depth. But Jiang is right in one respect: we should go over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries and make our case. Our formatting is better than that of the other countries. I didn't apply my changes to the rest of the countries, due to selfish patriotic pride. -- Tim Starling 13:06, Sep 21, 2003 (UTC)
No agreement from Jiang, restored the protection. (Correctly. it should be restored to the version BEFORE his edits, but in order to demonstrate fairness I restored Jiang's disputed version. I leave it to another sysop to restore the last non-controversial version, however - i.e., the Tim Starling version. Tannin 00:22, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Okay, I have now made my case at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. -- Tim Starling 01:41, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)
Summary of Tannin's edits and my comments:
-- Jiang 01:44, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Just because Australian birds are unique does not elevate them to a higher category. If australian birds could munch off the heads of humans, they would still be birds. Being special does not make them "all animals." It's not about the importance. It's about the scope of the article. If you think birds are so important, create a new section. If the section is not entitled "birds", it can't be considered a "main article." Get you vocabulary straight. -- Jiang 05:28, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Even if we put Australian birds in the main articles of "Flora and Fauna", people may not realise how important it is. A subsection "birds" under "Flora and Fauna" does a better job than that. (a view from the point of a layman) -- wshun 05:44, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
(marsupials) would make Australian mammals a useful article. In what way are Australian birds so important that doesn't apply to Australian mammals? Tuf-Kat 06:03, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)
The implication of some type of entititlement or expertise here which disallows edits by non-Aussies or non-biologists is quite un-Wikipedian. Smells like a strain of m:academic_standards_kick. Let's get less abusive and get back to the content. Fuzheado
Please add pl:Australia user:80.55.19.182
Are you sure? As far as I can tell, Jiang's sole edit after I protected it was in the period where Tannin had unprotected it to see if Jiang would start reverting again.
When I enacted the protection, I realized that the people who would be most tangibly affected were the innocent bystanders. I felt this was unfortunate, but necessary. My goal was to move the action out of the article namespace and into the talk namespace; even though the protection was symbolic, in the sense that it had no hard-security-type binding power on the disputing parties, I believe it was effective nonetheless. (Symbols have power, after all.) -- Cyan 01:09, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Is anyone any good with maps? The current one needs correcting: the Southern Ocean is mislabelled as the Indian Ocean. Tannin
Is there anything in wikipedia about the rabbit fence? I don't even know how to look it up :) Kyk 06:46, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This might sound odd, but I'm surprised at the Jervis Bay Territory being treated like a 'regular' territory. Sure, it is one, but it's not at the same 'level' as NT or the ACT. I always thought JBT was part of the ACT myself. If separate, I thought it would be on the same level as Macquarie Island or Christmas Island or Cocos Islands, etc.-- Chuq 04:17, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I have removed some external links. For following reasons.
The link to the Worldwide press freedom index was out of date, also the freedom of the press in Australia is not even mention in the article.
The link to AUSMAG was removed because it didn't have much information on the site.
I replaced the link to the Sunnybank directory with a link the the Australia section of the Open Directory Project because it is more comprehensive.
-- Popsracer 12:50, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I removed the HRP reference from the main page, because it gives an amusing little hobby of a few cranks a prominence that it does not deserve. Nobody else takes the claims seriously, unlike, say, the "Provisional Aboriginal Republic" stunt pulled by Michael Mansell and his Tasmanian Aboriginal buddies in the 1980's. -- Robert Merkel 12:39, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
Australia had been removed from Category:Oceanic countries and added to Category:Australia. However all sub-sub-articles of Category:Countries should only contain country articles. Category:Australia contains many more articles that just Australia, for example, Australian fauna. See the Beatles/John Lennon example at Wikipedia talk:Categorization -- Chuq 00:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The article contains "sixth-largest country in the world (geographically), the only one to occupy an entire continent, and the largest in Australasia" in the opening paragraph. This contains mutually contradictory statements:
Will those with an interest in this article please modify this as required? Jamesday 15:19, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I have removed the SAMPA and IPA pronunciations from the first sentence of this article. They were far too long for the first sentence (it is jarring for the reader) and the IPA ones do not display properly on a standard XP/IE setup. I have placed them in their own section entitled "pronunciation" until someone can write a more interesting thing about the pronunciation (though I cannot see how it can be made to be interesting at all). Anyway, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. We have Wiktionary for things like pronunciation. - Mark 05:51, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I've just removed the following categories from the article (which were just added today):
Category:Geochemistry Category:Earthquakes Category:Geography Category:Geologic timescale Category:Geology Category:Geophysics Category:Plate tectonics Category:Seismology
This may suit Gondwana and Laurasia, for example, but I think even for them, it's a bit over the top seeing as all of these could be condensed into the one category, if needed. (Probably Plate tectonics, but I'll leave that to someone more experienced in the area.)
As far as this article goes, I don't think this is the right place for this sort of category - because it is about Australia the country, not Australia the continent, Australasia, Oceania or the Indo-Australian tectonic plate.
Maybe an article Australia (continent) is needed? Thought I wouldn't want to encourage this if it isn't definitely needed.
Chuq 00:11, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
For the pronunciation section in the Australia page?
What do you mean don't forces fonts?
How are we suppost to see the IPA symbols?
How is "r" incorrect?
-- 203.220.171.162 11:55, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I am considering reverting this; even if it is true, I don't think that Violet Crumble warrants a link as an Australian-related article - it's just another chocolate bar. -- Chuq 02:46, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I was reading the Australia page, and I cannot figure out why there is no distinction between Australia the continent and Australia the country. Since many people confuse Oceania and Australia, should this not be made more clear? Just a thought.
--LuYu