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Tombah, whats the source for that addition? nableezy - 16:19, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
We must remember that Zertal's source Hütteroth and Abdulfattah (HA) is also a reliable source, so we are entitled to examine it ourselves and look for consistency with Zertal. As Huldra has noticed elsewhere, HA say that for the Nablus liwa item #34 is not only for jizya but also for another tax called 'adat rijaliyya levied on Muslims. Looking through the table for that liwa, we find that almost every locality has a value in item #34 except for localities with no population shown either (with one exception I noticed). Since it would completely ahistorical to infer that almost all localities had Christians or Jews despite them appearing very sparsely in the population counts, it must be that 'adat rijaliyya is the main source of #34. Further evidence can be given: (1) locality Jubayl on page 129 shows a count of both Muslims and Christians and #34 says "1200 and jizya 3240", so jizya is at least sometimes specifically indicated. (2) On page 74, HA explain the amount of this tax. In the nahiya that Attil lies in, the amount was 40 aqja for family heads and 20 aqja for bachelors. I went through the 14 localities on the same page (p126) as Attil and found that this formula gives the exact amount shown in #34 in 12 cases and differing by one character in the other two cases: Ajja shows 320 but the formula gives 520, Dayr Saraf shows 1200 but the formula gives 2200 (note that in both cases #34 is lower than the formula so the difference can't be explained by an additional tax being included). In conclusion, the amount in #34 for these villages is 'adat rijaliyya beyond reasonable doubt. Huldra's use of "poll tax" in the article is a good idea. Zero talk 03:42, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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Tombah, whats the source for that addition? nableezy - 16:19, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
We must remember that Zertal's source Hütteroth and Abdulfattah (HA) is also a reliable source, so we are entitled to examine it ourselves and look for consistency with Zertal. As Huldra has noticed elsewhere, HA say that for the Nablus liwa item #34 is not only for jizya but also for another tax called 'adat rijaliyya levied on Muslims. Looking through the table for that liwa, we find that almost every locality has a value in item #34 except for localities with no population shown either (with one exception I noticed). Since it would completely ahistorical to infer that almost all localities had Christians or Jews despite them appearing very sparsely in the population counts, it must be that 'adat rijaliyya is the main source of #34. Further evidence can be given: (1) locality Jubayl on page 129 shows a count of both Muslims and Christians and #34 says "1200 and jizya 3240", so jizya is at least sometimes specifically indicated. (2) On page 74, HA explain the amount of this tax. In the nahiya that Attil lies in, the amount was 40 aqja for family heads and 20 aqja for bachelors. I went through the 14 localities on the same page (p126) as Attil and found that this formula gives the exact amount shown in #34 in 12 cases and differing by one character in the other two cases: Ajja shows 320 but the formula gives 520, Dayr Saraf shows 1200 but the formula gives 2200 (note that in both cases #34 is lower than the formula so the difference can't be explained by an additional tax being included). In conclusion, the amount in #34 for these villages is 'adat rijaliyya beyond reasonable doubt. Huldra's use of "poll tax" in the article is a good idea. Zero talk 03:42, 24 March 2023 (UTC)