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Suggesting a name change for the article. Alrightthen1 ( talk) 08:20, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Due to the super-charged as it were volatility of past debates on an article which probably did not warrant it, as if any did... I suggest renaming this to something using a word such as period or time. There are not many people that involve themselves in naming / re-naming articles. Some quite vocal fanatics seem to override common sense.
The result of the proposal was move to 2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings
. Listed for five days and no opposition. The past sprawling discussion has been reviewed and this seems an appropriate retitling given the results, such as they were. It appears clear that the current title, by comparison, is not in keeping with that discussion. I urge anyone seeking to move this in the future to make a further formal request, given the history of controversy (and rather lame move war in my opinion) that the titling of this article provoked.--
Fuhghettaboutit (
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14:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I note that there has been no comment on this subject since I made a naming proposal in November, I now propose to move the article to 2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings. Ohconfucius ( talk) 05:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was Not moved.
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V = I * R (
talk to Ω)
09:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings → ? — This article has been hijacked by people who want to promulgate their personal views.
Yadontmind (
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19:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Please note that I have blocked Yadontmind indefinitely as a sockpuppet of Crashingthewaves. These edits quack for themselves.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 05:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I received email requests (along with skype calls and msn chats) about this article title. The major complaints I kept hearing was about how the title contains the "barbarism." While I know yall are tired of having name changes and I saw the results of the previous ones. However, I wish to hear what your thoughts are about the title without any of the concerns of sockpuppetry or anything like that. Personally, I would like to replace stabbings with knife attacks, but keep everything else the same. Thoughts? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I looked in the archive, but I couldn't find an explanation of the problem with "stabbing". Zscout, do I understand you correctly that some people refer to this as a "barbarism"? That sounds to me as if "stabbing" was a slang word, at least in this context. Is that what is meant?
Comparing "stabbings" and "knife attack" myself, "stabbings" conveys the information that people were actually hurt, while "knife attack" conveys the information that it wasn't a symmetric situation with people on both sides stabbing away at each other. Hans Adler 07:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so yay or nay about knife attacks as the title? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
No consensus to move. In the future I strongly encourage a discussion that reaches consensus about any name problems before this is nominated again. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Due to biases that have been exhibited on this talk page, a proposal is made to move it.
Here are a few reasons: obviously international attention is given to this topic. I assume like many, that finding no common ground users wish to remain at loggerheads. Additionally, it is quite evident that other than a quite small group of very vocal users "watching this page", they have no interest in anything more than virtual ambulance chasing current events. The only reason they have not moved along is it benefits them somehow.
They are not even interested in having a separate page for this event. At the start there was much ballyhoo and a hue and cry to have the page deleted and then merged. Failure at both of these ventures has created a ruckus on this website.
The result of the proposal was requester (now blocked indefinitely) is a quacking sockpuppet of Crashingthewaves, who has edit warred and advocated for moving this article under about eight different names with his multiple accounts being the main supporters of the move. A very persistent single purpose user.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 12:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Was there any mention in the media of the condition of the tour guide? (I checked a few of the citations and didn't see anything.) A similar question was asked back in 2008 Talk:2008_Beijing_Drum_Tower_stabbings/Archive_1#Tour_guide, but didn't get a response.-- Wikimedes ( talk) 19:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
CNN reported the guides condition at the hospital as stable. One assumes she didn't die. Not named and added info to article. Cotton2 ( talk) 09:06, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
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The redirect associated with this talk page was recently merged into List of mass stabbing incidents (before 2010). The other page that redirects here, 2008 Beijing Drum Tower incident during the Olympic Games, should be changed to List of mass stabbing incidents (before 2010)#Beijing, China (2008) as well in order to avoid double redirect. Tutwakhamoe ( talk) 20:24, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Suggesting a name change for the article. Alrightthen1 ( talk) 08:20, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Due to the super-charged as it were volatility of past debates on an article which probably did not warrant it, as if any did... I suggest renaming this to something using a word such as period or time. There are not many people that involve themselves in naming / re-naming articles. Some quite vocal fanatics seem to override common sense.
The result of the proposal was move to 2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings
. Listed for five days and no opposition. The past sprawling discussion has been reviewed and this seems an appropriate retitling given the results, such as they were. It appears clear that the current title, by comparison, is not in keeping with that discussion. I urge anyone seeking to move this in the future to make a further formal request, given the history of controversy (and rather lame move war in my opinion) that the titling of this article provoked.--
Fuhghettaboutit (
talk)
14:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I note that there has been no comment on this subject since I made a naming proposal in November, I now propose to move the article to 2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings. Ohconfucius ( talk) 05:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was Not moved.
—
V = I * R (
talk to Ω)
09:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings → ? — This article has been hijacked by people who want to promulgate their personal views.
Yadontmind (
talk)
19:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Please note that I have blocked Yadontmind indefinitely as a sockpuppet of Crashingthewaves. These edits quack for themselves.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 05:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I received email requests (along with skype calls and msn chats) about this article title. The major complaints I kept hearing was about how the title contains the "barbarism." While I know yall are tired of having name changes and I saw the results of the previous ones. However, I wish to hear what your thoughts are about the title without any of the concerns of sockpuppetry or anything like that. Personally, I would like to replace stabbings with knife attacks, but keep everything else the same. Thoughts? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I looked in the archive, but I couldn't find an explanation of the problem with "stabbing". Zscout, do I understand you correctly that some people refer to this as a "barbarism"? That sounds to me as if "stabbing" was a slang word, at least in this context. Is that what is meant?
Comparing "stabbings" and "knife attack" myself, "stabbings" conveys the information that people were actually hurt, while "knife attack" conveys the information that it wasn't a symmetric situation with people on both sides stabbing away at each other. Hans Adler 07:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so yay or nay about knife attacks as the title? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
No consensus to move. In the future I strongly encourage a discussion that reaches consensus about any name problems before this is nominated again. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Due to biases that have been exhibited on this talk page, a proposal is made to move it.
Here are a few reasons: obviously international attention is given to this topic. I assume like many, that finding no common ground users wish to remain at loggerheads. Additionally, it is quite evident that other than a quite small group of very vocal users "watching this page", they have no interest in anything more than virtual ambulance chasing current events. The only reason they have not moved along is it benefits them somehow.
They are not even interested in having a separate page for this event. At the start there was much ballyhoo and a hue and cry to have the page deleted and then merged. Failure at both of these ventures has created a ruckus on this website.
The result of the proposal was requester (now blocked indefinitely) is a quacking sockpuppet of Crashingthewaves, who has edit warred and advocated for moving this article under about eight different names with his multiple accounts being the main supporters of the move. A very persistent single purpose user.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 12:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Was there any mention in the media of the condition of the tour guide? (I checked a few of the citations and didn't see anything.) A similar question was asked back in 2008 Talk:2008_Beijing_Drum_Tower_stabbings/Archive_1#Tour_guide, but didn't get a response.-- Wikimedes ( talk) 19:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
CNN reported the guides condition at the hospital as stable. One assumes she didn't die. Not named and added info to article. Cotton2 ( talk) 09:06, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
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edit request to
2008 Beijing Drum Tower incident during the Olympic Games has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The redirect associated with this talk page was recently merged into List of mass stabbing incidents (before 2010). The other page that redirects here, 2008 Beijing Drum Tower incident during the Olympic Games, should be changed to List of mass stabbing incidents (before 2010)#Beijing, China (2008) as well in order to avoid double redirect. Tutwakhamoe ( talk) 20:24, 19 October 2023 (UTC)