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Method not specified —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.137.187 ( talk) 23:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
The tooltip for the Crescent Moon says "First Quarter" and that for the Decrescent Moon says "Last Quarter". This is wrong. First and last quarters look like half moons and are not the same as crescents. The confusion probably arose because the author thought of quarter as a fraction of the illuminated portion. The word quarter as used by astronomers is really the fraction of an entire lunation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.193.122 ( talk) 12:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Who decides what these symbols are? When were they first used? Are they still in use? -- Beland 22:04, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I second that, when were they first used, and by whom? Do they originate with the Greeks, or the Greeks borrow them from another civilizations (Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant)? Also, i've read these symbols were used to indicate days in some cultures (specifically rural Romania) but again I cannot attest to the veracity of these statements. Any extar info would be greatly appreciated. Arthurian Legend 16:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
The symbol for Uranus listed here is a circle with a line and the H, described as being attributed to Herschel. The symbol for Uranus listed on the NASA page is a combination of the Sun and Mars symbols. The symbol listed here should be changed, perhaps updated to show both, and further reference is needed for the H-version of the symbol. - zandperl 22:13, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Both should definitely be shown. Actually the one with the H (♅) is the one I've seen used the most, actually I had never seen the other previous to coming to this site. The "H" symbol is also the one used in Unicode.
yeah, I can't see most of these. What do I change for them to display again?
Page should probably be moved to either Astronomical symbol or List of astronomical symbols. - Silence 01:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
How come there are 2 different symbols for Pluto?
Do the new planets like Ceres or "Xena" have a symbol?-- Sonjaaa 16:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
--- 2060 Chiron also has a symbol that is used in astrology. I'm not sure if astronomers use it or not.
I think that the article should be split into Astrological symbols; there are, as the article says, astrological symbols that are not the same as their corresponding astronomical symbols. 100110100 23:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The symbol for which Eris is known is not the Apple of Discord, but in fact the Five Fingered Hand of Eris (better known just as the Hand of Eris). It is a) in line with the other symbols and glyphs for planets, because it has crescents and lines b) so that it cannot be confused with the symbol for Chiron, which also uses a circle and a "K" already. This matter is under debate at this very moment in a discordian community [4] on livejournal. There is also a petition to whoever officiates these symbols www.petitiononline.com/ffhoeris/petition.html. I have also brought this up on the talk page for Eris [5], and have also sent a proposal letter to the discoverer of the planet. -- Travlr23 03:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the article specified U+02A1 as the Unicode character for Ceres. I removed it, since U+02A1 is actually LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP WITH STROKE -- it is a phonetic letter, whose resemblance to the Ceres symbol is pure coincidence. There is a proposal to add codepoints for some of the symbols ( see [ [6]] ) which passed the first vote in May. JamesFox 11:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
In case anyone was wondering, Ceres, Pallas, Juno, Vesta and Chiron were not the only asteroids to receive symbols. This page shows symbols of many of the early discovered asteroids. Good luck to anyone who wants to incorporate them. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 16:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed them, and this is why: All the symbols have variants. None are, to my knowledge, official. Neptune may be drawn without the arrowy-bits on the prongs. The curves of Jupiter and Saturn may be significantly different from one representation to the next. The astrological symbol for Uranus may not have the middle prong going up (or, sometimes the circle is up, not down). As for the symbols for all the asteroids recently added, I'm sure if you had original documents you'd see major variations as well. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
However, you removed the original form of the Vesta symbol in favour of a later variant. Adam Cuerden talk 14:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'd still like to see the page split up. It's named completely wrong, since there are astrological symbols in the article, and it's getting awfully badly organized now that all these new asteroids are being added.
Proposal:
Astronomical symbols has the planets, the moon, the sun, and the asteroids (and Ceres and Pluto). And try to put them all in one table with sub-headings.
Astrological symbols has three sections; the zodiac, "astrological bodies" (including Sun, Moon, planets, and the first four asteroids, including Ceres, and Chiron), and other symbols (ascending node, descending node, etc.)
Oh, and forget about the Unicode symbols bit. They're not articles about Unicode.
└ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 14:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Astronomy and astrology are completely different pursuits: Astrology still at least in part depends on a geocentric view in its calculations, and is in the mystical sphere, whereas astronomy depends on up-to-the-minute physics and is in the Scientific sphere. I don't think linking the articles is bad, but to hold up a section of the Astrological symbols up as Astronomically valid seems to be undue mixing of two very different fields, and I'd rather treat any junction as a seperate article, to preserve the division. Adam Cuerden talk 17:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm? Zodiac is a perfectly vadid astronomical term. It's the constellations on the line all the planets follow (as seen from earth). How could I object to that? Adam Cuerden talk 19:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Eh, I only really see a problemm with mixing pure-astrology articles with pure astronomy. Astrologists keep coming up with new stuff, and we don't want astronomers being told abouth the symbol for Moonchild if we have an astrology editor of a reforming mind. Mixed articles aren't so bad - the astronomers will keep the astronomy sections relevant, and if they have a bit about astrology at the end, not so bad. But to direct to one section of a page much of which is actively wrong for astronomy symbols... Not a good way to delineate data.
I mean, what would you say: The symbols for the zodiacal signs, as seen on the astrology symbols page, are used in astronomy on occassion. Everything else on that page may contain variant symbols, symbols only ever used in astrology, and other confusion. But have a look at that one relevant section. Adam Cuerden talk 22:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe the symbols for "comet", "ascending/descending node" "conjunction", "opposition", etc. are more astronomical than astrological. RandomCritic 20:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay. I guess I've missed the vague discussion in the talk section above, but now that I've seen that page changes, I feel that I must revert. There are no abstract, Astronomical symbols for all of the constellations. When it comes to constellations located along the zodiac, 12 of the 13 may give thier names to the Astrological Zodiac signs, also known as the house signs, but the symbols do not repersent constellations. They represent 30 degree divisions of the 360 degree circle of astrological longtitude, at least in astrology. I am very doubtful that any astronomical usage comes close in thier extent of use in astrology. JamesFox 13:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Aye, but the constellations-pages includ sections on astrology (and Scorpio/us linked to the constellation anyway), so I'd rather send people where there's more information. Adam Cuerden talk 18:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is in need of text describing the historical use of astronomical symbols (in general) and there should also be some mention of the astronomical use of zodiac symbols. These symbols have been used in an astronomical context in the past, for instance, by Kepler as show here: Image:Kepler Mars retrograde.jpg. I'll look for some references on usage of the symbols. -- mikeu ( talk) 16:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is Venus pink?03:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The table on this page describes the symbol for Venus as representing "Venus's hand mirror". The page for Venus states: "Alchemists constructed the symbol from a circle (representing spirit) above a cross (representing matter)." Are they both correct somehow, or does one page need changing? -- 67.110.213.253 04:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Did anyone find an answer for who defines these symbols? I can find nothing on the IAU website about them, and NASA simply display the images without explaining who uses them or where they come from. The page here makes no mention of any controlling authority, and yet the symbol for Eris is "Unlikely to gain an official symbol". What makes a symbol official?? Feyrauth ( talk) 01:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I found a Unicode bug in the Venus symbol:
Font 4:
♀
Font 6:
♀
- Pat Peter 20:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Are these symbols still commonly used in the scientific practice of astronomy today? Some of these symbols have been used in astronomy but in eras long in the past and in relation to the "science of the day" -- a.k.a. astrology and other observation of the cosmos in relation to superstitions. These symbols (and many others) were pertinent to science long ago but not really today I don't think. (I could be wrong. If so, please provide sources.) When astronomy for science (cosmology, physics, etc.) split from astrology, the latter retained the symbols. And that should be clearly indicated in the lede. Then there's the issue of corroborating these lesser known symbols. I know the symbols of the planets. Those are quite common. But the lesser known ones (i.e. for asteroids, dwarf planets & other non-planet bodies) need citations to be credulous. It would be helpful to have some indication that they aren't some guy's personal Paintshop creations. They have to be symbols that are actually used widely and have documentation to prove it. But, hey, I really don't know what's real and what's not. I'm speaking from a lay position. So please do bring on the citations. Otherwise, some cleanup is required. ask123 ( talk) 03:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
These entries contained unsourced data and/or original research, and were removed. Note that everything I removed remains in the Astrological symbols article.
For Eris, under Symbol represents: Unlikely to gain an official symbol (although there have been a number of proposals, citation needed such as the Hand of Eris 50x25px|Eris original research?)
See the discussion on this page under the heading "Symbol for Eris". A livejournal discussion and an "online petition" do not constitute notability.
For Vesta: 25px|Vesta citation needed | #9910;| ⚶
Removed because (1) I found no evidence of this symbol ever having being notably (or at all) used by astronomers, and (2) the astronomical symbol that was in common use looks different.
2060 Chiron | 25px citation needed | #9911; | ⚷ | proposed but not adopted |
Removed because this is an astrological symbol. Described as "an inspiration shared amongst Al H. Morrison, Joelle K.D. Mahoney, and Marlene Bassoff", it was presented to the astrological community in 1977 in the CAO Times, vol. 3, p. 57, and appears to have been adopted nearly universally by astrologers.
asteroid | 25px citation needed | proposed but not adopted |
Removed because this symbol was not adopted.
Conjunction | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Meteor | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Meteor shower | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Asteroid | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined |
I'm not sure what to make of these four symbols, except to say that they are all unsourced, the conjunction symbol is definitely unlike the standard one, and the description page on each of these images appears to refer to fortune-telling.
If you find a source attesting to any of this material in an astronomical (not astrological) context, feel free to put it back in the article with a citation. 198.189.164.204 ( talk) 03:11, 9 March 2010 (UTC); 22:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Some of the "Unicode" entries in the tables were in decimal, others in hexadecimal. Changing all these cells to show both, on two lines. The standard notation
distinguishes them.
I used this Perl script after confirming that it would catch all and only the table cells I wanted.
while(<>){ if (($x,$n) = (/#(x?)([0-9a-f]+);/i) and !/Unicode/i) { s/^\|\#/| #/; if($x) { # hex, conv to dec $dec = hex($n); $hex = $n; } else { # dec, conv to hex $hex = sprintf("%x",$n); $dec = $n; } s/#(x?)([0-9a-f]+);/#x$hex;<br>#$dec;/; } print; }
Thnidu ( talk) 22:09, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm replacing the symbol U+2295 ⊕ with U+1F728 🜨. The former is a mathematical operator which, depending on the font used, may be rendered too small. Additionally the plus does not necessarily touch the circle. In the Unicode standard U+2295 cross-references U+1F728, an alchemical symbol with the annotation "= early astronomical symbol for earth". So this seems to be the right character. Oracle of Truth ( talk) 18:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Small mod this, but: the Sun and (to a lesser extent) Earth symbols are in frequent use in current astronomical papers and textbooks (e.g. L☉ for solar luminosity) so I've slightly changed the introductory text to reflect this. EqualMusic ( talk) 08:22, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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I don't know how to edit this, but I think 2060 Chiron may be on the list too. Unicode Character 'CHIRON' (U+26B7) Sailorsun ( talk) 19:34, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I found these symbols somewhere on the internet. However I don't think orcus' symbol is registered? Here it is, I didn't make this: http://eaglezebrafish.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/astrological-symbol-for-orcus-and-pluto.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by NHPluto ( talk • contribs) 17:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Name | Symbol | Unicode codepoint |
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134340 Pluto |
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Modification of Neptune's astrological symbol. It symbolizes Pluto's Cap of invisibility (the circle) and the bident (the arc under the circle)? also a typical attribute of Pluto. |
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NASA has used it for Pluto as a DP rather than a planet. — kwami ( talk) 00:59, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
For some reason, I'm not able to download the PDF of this page. I keep getting this message (up-to-date Firefox, same issue with Chrome): "xxx.pdf.part could not be saved because the source file could not be read" alex ( talk) 16:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
still the same issue alex ( talk) 11:44, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
I have a concern about the way the symbols are being shown in this table, in the cases where the symbol has a wikilink to an article about that symbol. If we want to show the symbol " as a 'thing' in itself", then we should show exactly that symbol and not an underlined version of it. This is because the line could be misunderstood as being part of the symbol. Options are to (a) just remove the wikilinking or (b) add another column giving the link or (c) something else.
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Method not specified —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.137.187 ( talk) 23:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
The tooltip for the Crescent Moon says "First Quarter" and that for the Decrescent Moon says "Last Quarter". This is wrong. First and last quarters look like half moons and are not the same as crescents. The confusion probably arose because the author thought of quarter as a fraction of the illuminated portion. The word quarter as used by astronomers is really the fraction of an entire lunation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.193.122 ( talk) 12:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Who decides what these symbols are? When were they first used? Are they still in use? -- Beland 22:04, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I second that, when were they first used, and by whom? Do they originate with the Greeks, or the Greeks borrow them from another civilizations (Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant)? Also, i've read these symbols were used to indicate days in some cultures (specifically rural Romania) but again I cannot attest to the veracity of these statements. Any extar info would be greatly appreciated. Arthurian Legend 16:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
The symbol for Uranus listed here is a circle with a line and the H, described as being attributed to Herschel. The symbol for Uranus listed on the NASA page is a combination of the Sun and Mars symbols. The symbol listed here should be changed, perhaps updated to show both, and further reference is needed for the H-version of the symbol. - zandperl 22:13, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Both should definitely be shown. Actually the one with the H (♅) is the one I've seen used the most, actually I had never seen the other previous to coming to this site. The "H" symbol is also the one used in Unicode.
yeah, I can't see most of these. What do I change for them to display again?
Page should probably be moved to either Astronomical symbol or List of astronomical symbols. - Silence 01:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
How come there are 2 different symbols for Pluto?
Do the new planets like Ceres or "Xena" have a symbol?-- Sonjaaa 16:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
--- 2060 Chiron also has a symbol that is used in astrology. I'm not sure if astronomers use it or not.
I think that the article should be split into Astrological symbols; there are, as the article says, astrological symbols that are not the same as their corresponding astronomical symbols. 100110100 23:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The symbol for which Eris is known is not the Apple of Discord, but in fact the Five Fingered Hand of Eris (better known just as the Hand of Eris). It is a) in line with the other symbols and glyphs for planets, because it has crescents and lines b) so that it cannot be confused with the symbol for Chiron, which also uses a circle and a "K" already. This matter is under debate at this very moment in a discordian community [4] on livejournal. There is also a petition to whoever officiates these symbols www.petitiononline.com/ffhoeris/petition.html. I have also brought this up on the talk page for Eris [5], and have also sent a proposal letter to the discoverer of the planet. -- Travlr23 03:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the article specified U+02A1 as the Unicode character for Ceres. I removed it, since U+02A1 is actually LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP WITH STROKE -- it is a phonetic letter, whose resemblance to the Ceres symbol is pure coincidence. There is a proposal to add codepoints for some of the symbols ( see [ [6]] ) which passed the first vote in May. JamesFox 11:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
In case anyone was wondering, Ceres, Pallas, Juno, Vesta and Chiron were not the only asteroids to receive symbols. This page shows symbols of many of the early discovered asteroids. Good luck to anyone who wants to incorporate them. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 16:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed them, and this is why: All the symbols have variants. None are, to my knowledge, official. Neptune may be drawn without the arrowy-bits on the prongs. The curves of Jupiter and Saturn may be significantly different from one representation to the next. The astrological symbol for Uranus may not have the middle prong going up (or, sometimes the circle is up, not down). As for the symbols for all the asteroids recently added, I'm sure if you had original documents you'd see major variations as well. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
However, you removed the original form of the Vesta symbol in favour of a later variant. Adam Cuerden talk 14:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'd still like to see the page split up. It's named completely wrong, since there are astrological symbols in the article, and it's getting awfully badly organized now that all these new asteroids are being added.
Proposal:
Astronomical symbols has the planets, the moon, the sun, and the asteroids (and Ceres and Pluto). And try to put them all in one table with sub-headings.
Astrological symbols has three sections; the zodiac, "astrological bodies" (including Sun, Moon, planets, and the first four asteroids, including Ceres, and Chiron), and other symbols (ascending node, descending node, etc.)
Oh, and forget about the Unicode symbols bit. They're not articles about Unicode.
└ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 14:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Astronomy and astrology are completely different pursuits: Astrology still at least in part depends on a geocentric view in its calculations, and is in the mystical sphere, whereas astronomy depends on up-to-the-minute physics and is in the Scientific sphere. I don't think linking the articles is bad, but to hold up a section of the Astrological symbols up as Astronomically valid seems to be undue mixing of two very different fields, and I'd rather treat any junction as a seperate article, to preserve the division. Adam Cuerden talk 17:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm? Zodiac is a perfectly vadid astronomical term. It's the constellations on the line all the planets follow (as seen from earth). How could I object to that? Adam Cuerden talk 19:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Eh, I only really see a problemm with mixing pure-astrology articles with pure astronomy. Astrologists keep coming up with new stuff, and we don't want astronomers being told abouth the symbol for Moonchild if we have an astrology editor of a reforming mind. Mixed articles aren't so bad - the astronomers will keep the astronomy sections relevant, and if they have a bit about astrology at the end, not so bad. But to direct to one section of a page much of which is actively wrong for astronomy symbols... Not a good way to delineate data.
I mean, what would you say: The symbols for the zodiacal signs, as seen on the astrology symbols page, are used in astronomy on occassion. Everything else on that page may contain variant symbols, symbols only ever used in astrology, and other confusion. But have a look at that one relevant section. Adam Cuerden talk 22:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe the symbols for "comet", "ascending/descending node" "conjunction", "opposition", etc. are more astronomical than astrological. RandomCritic 20:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay. I guess I've missed the vague discussion in the talk section above, but now that I've seen that page changes, I feel that I must revert. There are no abstract, Astronomical symbols for all of the constellations. When it comes to constellations located along the zodiac, 12 of the 13 may give thier names to the Astrological Zodiac signs, also known as the house signs, but the symbols do not repersent constellations. They represent 30 degree divisions of the 360 degree circle of astrological longtitude, at least in astrology. I am very doubtful that any astronomical usage comes close in thier extent of use in astrology. JamesFox 13:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Aye, but the constellations-pages includ sections on astrology (and Scorpio/us linked to the constellation anyway), so I'd rather send people where there's more information. Adam Cuerden talk 18:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is in need of text describing the historical use of astronomical symbols (in general) and there should also be some mention of the astronomical use of zodiac symbols. These symbols have been used in an astronomical context in the past, for instance, by Kepler as show here: Image:Kepler Mars retrograde.jpg. I'll look for some references on usage of the symbols. -- mikeu ( talk) 16:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is Venus pink?03:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The table on this page describes the symbol for Venus as representing "Venus's hand mirror". The page for Venus states: "Alchemists constructed the symbol from a circle (representing spirit) above a cross (representing matter)." Are they both correct somehow, or does one page need changing? -- 67.110.213.253 04:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Did anyone find an answer for who defines these symbols? I can find nothing on the IAU website about them, and NASA simply display the images without explaining who uses them or where they come from. The page here makes no mention of any controlling authority, and yet the symbol for Eris is "Unlikely to gain an official symbol". What makes a symbol official?? Feyrauth ( talk) 01:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I found a Unicode bug in the Venus symbol:
Font 4:
♀
Font 6:
♀
- Pat Peter 20:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Are these symbols still commonly used in the scientific practice of astronomy today? Some of these symbols have been used in astronomy but in eras long in the past and in relation to the "science of the day" -- a.k.a. astrology and other observation of the cosmos in relation to superstitions. These symbols (and many others) were pertinent to science long ago but not really today I don't think. (I could be wrong. If so, please provide sources.) When astronomy for science (cosmology, physics, etc.) split from astrology, the latter retained the symbols. And that should be clearly indicated in the lede. Then there's the issue of corroborating these lesser known symbols. I know the symbols of the planets. Those are quite common. But the lesser known ones (i.e. for asteroids, dwarf planets & other non-planet bodies) need citations to be credulous. It would be helpful to have some indication that they aren't some guy's personal Paintshop creations. They have to be symbols that are actually used widely and have documentation to prove it. But, hey, I really don't know what's real and what's not. I'm speaking from a lay position. So please do bring on the citations. Otherwise, some cleanup is required. ask123 ( talk) 03:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
These entries contained unsourced data and/or original research, and were removed. Note that everything I removed remains in the Astrological symbols article.
For Eris, under Symbol represents: Unlikely to gain an official symbol (although there have been a number of proposals, citation needed such as the Hand of Eris 50x25px|Eris original research?)
See the discussion on this page under the heading "Symbol for Eris". A livejournal discussion and an "online petition" do not constitute notability.
For Vesta: 25px|Vesta citation needed | #9910;| ⚶
Removed because (1) I found no evidence of this symbol ever having being notably (or at all) used by astronomers, and (2) the astronomical symbol that was in common use looks different.
2060 Chiron | 25px citation needed | #9911; | ⚷ | proposed but not adopted |
Removed because this is an astrological symbol. Described as "an inspiration shared amongst Al H. Morrison, Joelle K.D. Mahoney, and Marlene Bassoff", it was presented to the astrological community in 1977 in the CAO Times, vol. 3, p. 57, and appears to have been adopted nearly universally by astrologers.
asteroid | 25px citation needed | proposed but not adopted |
Removed because this symbol was not adopted.
Conjunction | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Meteor | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Meteor shower | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined | |
Asteroid | 50x25px citation needed | Proposal; | undefined |
I'm not sure what to make of these four symbols, except to say that they are all unsourced, the conjunction symbol is definitely unlike the standard one, and the description page on each of these images appears to refer to fortune-telling.
If you find a source attesting to any of this material in an astronomical (not astrological) context, feel free to put it back in the article with a citation. 198.189.164.204 ( talk) 03:11, 9 March 2010 (UTC); 22:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Some of the "Unicode" entries in the tables were in decimal, others in hexadecimal. Changing all these cells to show both, on two lines. The standard notation
distinguishes them.
I used this Perl script after confirming that it would catch all and only the table cells I wanted.
while(<>){ if (($x,$n) = (/#(x?)([0-9a-f]+);/i) and !/Unicode/i) { s/^\|\#/| #/; if($x) { # hex, conv to dec $dec = hex($n); $hex = $n; } else { # dec, conv to hex $hex = sprintf("%x",$n); $dec = $n; } s/#(x?)([0-9a-f]+);/#x$hex;<br>#$dec;/; } print; }
Thnidu ( talk) 22:09, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm replacing the symbol U+2295 ⊕ with U+1F728 🜨. The former is a mathematical operator which, depending on the font used, may be rendered too small. Additionally the plus does not necessarily touch the circle. In the Unicode standard U+2295 cross-references U+1F728, an alchemical symbol with the annotation "= early astronomical symbol for earth". So this seems to be the right character. Oracle of Truth ( talk) 18:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Small mod this, but: the Sun and (to a lesser extent) Earth symbols are in frequent use in current astronomical papers and textbooks (e.g. L☉ for solar luminosity) so I've slightly changed the introductory text to reflect this. EqualMusic ( talk) 08:22, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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I don't know how to edit this, but I think 2060 Chiron may be on the list too. Unicode Character 'CHIRON' (U+26B7) Sailorsun ( talk) 19:34, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I found these symbols somewhere on the internet. However I don't think orcus' symbol is registered? Here it is, I didn't make this: http://eaglezebrafish.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/astrological-symbol-for-orcus-and-pluto.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by NHPluto ( talk • contribs) 17:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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I removed the astrological symbol for Pluto (
) from the table because no evidence appears of its use in an astronomical context. While it has a place in the
astrological symbols article, this one is for astronomical symbols. The removed entry is here for reference. If anyone has a
Reliable Source™ of it being used astronomically (not astrologically), feel free to reinstate it.
Name | Symbol | Unicode codepoint |
Unicode display |
Represents |
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134340 Pluto |
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Modification of Neptune's astrological symbol. It symbolizes Pluto's Cap of invisibility (the circle) and the bident (the arc under the circle)? also a typical attribute of Pluto. |
209.129.241.33 ( talk) 23:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
References
NASA has used it for Pluto as a DP rather than a planet. — kwami ( talk) 00:59, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
For some reason, I'm not able to download the PDF of this page. I keep getting this message (up-to-date Firefox, same issue with Chrome): "xxx.pdf.part could not be saved because the source file could not be read" alex ( talk) 16:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
still the same issue alex ( talk) 11:44, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
I have a concern about the way the symbols are being shown in this table, in the cases where the symbol has a wikilink to an article about that symbol. If we want to show the symbol " as a 'thing' in itself", then we should show exactly that symbol and not an underlined version of it. This is because the line could be misunderstood as being part of the symbol. Options are to (a) just remove the wikilinking or (b) add another column giving the link or (c) something else.
Comments? -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 15:53, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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