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The result of the move request was: Moved. There were good arguments on both sides, but there is a narrow consensus to do the move. The fact that the institution prefers this terminology isn't decisive for us given the wording of WP:OFFICIALNAMES. EdJohnston ( talk) 15:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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Art Pavilion, Zagreb – The building's official name is Umjetnički paviljon u Zagrebu. This does indeed literally mean "Art Pavilion in Zagreb". However, although this is normal naming practice in many Eastern European languages, it is not normal naming practice in English, where we would usually replace the "in" with an "of" or simply with a comma (I personally believe the latter is more appropriate here) to specify which city it's in. I have now moved it twice and it has been moved back twice by the same editor, and I can't seem to make him see that this is not normal or intuitive English and that just because it's an official name in the native language doesn't mean we should translate literally into English. --Relisted.
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Comment. There are cases in English language that use exactly this form with famous case of the Columbia University in the City of New York where full name is short just because it is to long. Here it will not be shorter in version Art Pavilion, Zagreb.-- MirkoS18 ( talk) 06:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
In response to User:BDD's claim that there's "no indication that "in Zagreb" is part of its actual name in any language"; FWIV, the gallery's own logo as seen here on top of page incorporates its name in both Croatian (Umjetnički paviljon u Zagrebu) and English (Art Pavilion in Zagreb). Being part of a logo, it is printed on virtually every piece of promotional material sold at the gallery, including posters, mugs, t-shirts, exhibition catalogs, etc. Does that count as an "indication"? Timbouctou ( talk) 07:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved. There were good arguments on both sides, but there is a narrow consensus to do the move. The fact that the institution prefers this terminology isn't decisive for us given the wording of WP:OFFICIALNAMES. EdJohnston ( talk) 15:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Art Pavilion in Zagreb →
Art Pavilion, Zagreb – The building's official name is Umjetnički paviljon u Zagrebu. This does indeed literally mean "Art Pavilion in Zagreb". However, although this is normal naming practice in many Eastern European languages, it is not normal naming practice in English, where we would usually replace the "in" with an "of" or simply with a comma (I personally believe the latter is more appropriate here) to specify which city it's in. I have now moved it twice and it has been moved back twice by the same editor, and I can't seem to make him see that this is not normal or intuitive English and that just because it's an official name in the native language doesn't mean we should translate literally into English. --Relisted.
George Ho (
talk) 19:21, 3 June 2015 (UTC) --
Necrothesp (
talk)
15:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Comment. There are cases in English language that use exactly this form with famous case of the Columbia University in the City of New York where full name is short just because it is to long. Here it will not be shorter in version Art Pavilion, Zagreb.-- MirkoS18 ( talk) 06:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
In response to User:BDD's claim that there's "no indication that "in Zagreb" is part of its actual name in any language"; FWIV, the gallery's own logo as seen here on top of page incorporates its name in both Croatian (Umjetnički paviljon u Zagrebu) and English (Art Pavilion in Zagreb). Being part of a logo, it is printed on virtually every piece of promotional material sold at the gallery, including posters, mugs, t-shirts, exhibition catalogs, etc. Does that count as an "indication"? Timbouctou ( talk) 07:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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