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No nick name is shown for the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. It has one of the most famous nick names in the British Army - The Thin Red Line - a name earned at the battle of Balaklava when the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders under Sir Colin Campbell stood in line formation and repelled the Russian cavalry heading for the British base at Balaklava. The Argylls are unique in the British Army as the only infantry regiment with the battle honour "Balaklava" - all of the other regiments with this honour being the cavalry regiments that made up the Heavy and Light Brigades.
I'm adding links for as many individual Battalions as I can find using {{ oob unit}}. These should probably be migrated to the articles for the Battalions themselves: please feel free to do this before I get around to it. HTH HAND — Phil | Talk 11:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
It was the argyll and sutherland highlanders that performed the bayonett charge in afghanistan, not the princess of wales regiment.
The Korean War section consists of full account of the action on Hill 282, but nothing else; it's also more information than on any other action mentioned. Can I suggest that this is moved to a page entitled "Hill 282",or somesuch,with links to other pages on Korean war battles, and another paragraph be written to outline their involvement in the conflict? Any comments, or objections if I do this? Xyl 54 12:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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I propose to merge 2nd Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders into this article to bring these into line with articles on most other post 1881 British Army regiments i.e. to discuss their post 1881 history in one place. The history of the 2nd battalion is not notable enough (see WP:SOLDIER) to currently merit a separate article. An article on the 1st battalion was redirected into this article in May 2011. NtheP ( talk) 17:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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ARGYLLS WERE IN CYPRUS IN 1958 . CYPRUS SHOULD BE NOTED TH D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.163.18 ( talk) 23:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
The article, in describing the 93rd's famous stand at Balaklava, says that the regiment:
"for the first time in the history of the British Army broke a large cavalry charge using musket fire alone, without having been formed into a square."
This is simply not true. British infantry broke the mass of French cavalry at the Battle of Minden in 1759, nearly one hundred years previously, with musketry. The Wiki article on the Battle of Minden states:
"Since the French cavalry was still in its ranks and the famous 'hollow square' had not yet been developed, it was assumed by all that the six leading British regiments were doomed. Despite being under constant artillery fire, the six regiments (soon supported by two Hannovarian battalions), by maintaining fierce discipline and closed ranks, drove off repeated cavalry charges with musket fire and inflicted serious casualties on the French. "
I'm sure I could find other examples, but this is the most famous. This is not an effort to diminish the 93rd's achievement, but simply to eliminate unnecessary and incorrect hyperbole.
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semonyenko ( talk • contribs) 23:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Article mentions that 9 Btns were raised during WW2, which seems too high to me! I suspect that this figure includes some, if not all, of the Regt's Btns that were in existence prior to the war. [Obviously, if they were around pre-war, they weren't raised during the war.] The pre-war Btns were the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th & 11th. The 9th Btn had been converted to the 54th LAA Regt in 1938 (and duplicated pre-war to form the 58th LAA Regt).
According to Regiments.org, 7 Btns were raised during the war: 1939: 12th (Home Defence), 13th (Home Defence) & 14th (Home Defence) 1940: 15th, 50th (Holding) & 70th (Young Soldier) 1941: 30th
However, I suspect that, in 1940, the 50th Btn became the 15th Btn; and in 1941, the 14th Btn became the 30th Btn. In which case, there would only have been 5 war-formed Btns. [I was going to verify this using ordersofbattle.com, but this is currently unavailable - I hope its not lost for good.]
Of course Regiments.org (only archived copies are available) and ordersofbattle.com have errors, so it would be nice for someone to find a good source. Glevum ( talk) 21:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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No nick name is shown for the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. It has one of the most famous nick names in the British Army - The Thin Red Line - a name earned at the battle of Balaklava when the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders under Sir Colin Campbell stood in line formation and repelled the Russian cavalry heading for the British base at Balaklava. The Argylls are unique in the British Army as the only infantry regiment with the battle honour "Balaklava" - all of the other regiments with this honour being the cavalry regiments that made up the Heavy and Light Brigades.
I'm adding links for as many individual Battalions as I can find using {{ oob unit}}. These should probably be migrated to the articles for the Battalions themselves: please feel free to do this before I get around to it. HTH HAND — Phil | Talk 11:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
It was the argyll and sutherland highlanders that performed the bayonett charge in afghanistan, not the princess of wales regiment.
The Korean War section consists of full account of the action on Hill 282, but nothing else; it's also more information than on any other action mentioned. Can I suggest that this is moved to a page entitled "Hill 282",or somesuch,with links to other pages on Korean war battles, and another paragraph be written to outline their involvement in the conflict? Any comments, or objections if I do this? Xyl 54 12:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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I propose to merge 2nd Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders into this article to bring these into line with articles on most other post 1881 British Army regiments i.e. to discuss their post 1881 history in one place. The history of the 2nd battalion is not notable enough (see WP:SOLDIER) to currently merit a separate article. An article on the 1st battalion was redirected into this article in May 2011. NtheP ( talk) 17:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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ARGYLLS WERE IN CYPRUS IN 1958 . CYPRUS SHOULD BE NOTED TH D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.163.18 ( talk) 23:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
The article, in describing the 93rd's famous stand at Balaklava, says that the regiment:
"for the first time in the history of the British Army broke a large cavalry charge using musket fire alone, without having been formed into a square."
This is simply not true. British infantry broke the mass of French cavalry at the Battle of Minden in 1759, nearly one hundred years previously, with musketry. The Wiki article on the Battle of Minden states:
"Since the French cavalry was still in its ranks and the famous 'hollow square' had not yet been developed, it was assumed by all that the six leading British regiments were doomed. Despite being under constant artillery fire, the six regiments (soon supported by two Hannovarian battalions), by maintaining fierce discipline and closed ranks, drove off repeated cavalry charges with musket fire and inflicted serious casualties on the French. "
I'm sure I could find other examples, but this is the most famous. This is not an effort to diminish the 93rd's achievement, but simply to eliminate unnecessary and incorrect hyperbole.
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semonyenko ( talk • contribs) 23:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Article mentions that 9 Btns were raised during WW2, which seems too high to me! I suspect that this figure includes some, if not all, of the Regt's Btns that were in existence prior to the war. [Obviously, if they were around pre-war, they weren't raised during the war.] The pre-war Btns were the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th & 11th. The 9th Btn had been converted to the 54th LAA Regt in 1938 (and duplicated pre-war to form the 58th LAA Regt).
According to Regiments.org, 7 Btns were raised during the war: 1939: 12th (Home Defence), 13th (Home Defence) & 14th (Home Defence) 1940: 15th, 50th (Holding) & 70th (Young Soldier) 1941: 30th
However, I suspect that, in 1940, the 50th Btn became the 15th Btn; and in 1941, the 14th Btn became the 30th Btn. In which case, there would only have been 5 war-formed Btns. [I was going to verify this using ordersofbattle.com, but this is currently unavailable - I hope its not lost for good.]
Of course Regiments.org (only archived copies are available) and ordersofbattle.com have errors, so it would be nice for someone to find a good source. Glevum ( talk) 21:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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