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An anon seems to be adding Dr. Orlando Rivero to the notable alumni section after having him removed a few times (always with poorly formatted citations). I do not want to get into an editing war, but it does not seem like this person meets the criteria for being notable. Seems like if every director of university departments was listed as notable alumni on college pages, the notable alumni sections could get ridiculously long. Does anyone have anything to say in support of this person being added? EtanaLF ( talk) 20:23, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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I have on several occasions tried to remove the comment regarding one student's plagiarism and the school's response to it. The moderator then describes my removal of the comment as being unconstructive. I contend that its inclusion is unconstructive and non-value added. It is a single point in time issue relating to one ex-student and now it takes a prominent position in a description of the school itself - this is one more example of the wiki model protecting the salacious to the exclusion of balance and fair play. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.89.148 ( talk) 02:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
You do not understand what occurred. The instructor in question, when she was a student (1) working on her own dissertation, appears to have not used APA citation – or perhaps much citation at all in some instances and after the instructor had graduated with her doctorate, a different student (2), when reviewing the problematic dissertation saw citation inconsistencies.
This student (2) brought the question up to her faculty members who did not agree with her regarding her observation of plagiarism. The student (2) did not agree with their finding and continued to press the issue. Student (2) was then admonished and a note was added to her file. The issue continued to circulate and was brought to the attention of the press in Chicago – who asked for more detail.
The university first stood by the findings of the local faculty member who determined no plagiaristic foul on the part of the student (1). The university continued to evaluate the paper and then concluded that there was, intentional or not, substantial plagiarism on the part of the student (1) in her dissertation. Student (1) was removed from her teaching assignment, her dissertation voided and her degree rescinded. Student (2) was absolved of any wrongdoing and her file cleansed of related commentary. Student (1) was after a period of time, allowed to reapply, and then develop, complete and submit an entirely new dissertation. The entire event was handled consistent with policy and represented the most vigorous and meaningful approach to correcting a recent issue of plagiarism – review other occurrences and note the absence of corrective action on the part of whichever university was involved. No other recent plagiarist has been stripped of his or her awarded degree, removed form teaching and made to completely re-do and re-submit their dissertation.
Wrongs occurred which were corrected. They won’t happen again. They were, still, a point in time occurrence with one student plagiarist and one faculty member misevaluating the occurrence, all of which was corrected. The plagiarist, in trying to reestablish herself in academia, has pointed to other such occurrences of plagiarism at other universities claiming to have made a similar oversight and claiming much to do over little – no one is buying it, in particular student (2) and her substantially reformatted ex-faculty member.
But, it still is not other than a point in time occurrence on the part of a couple of people and does not represent the basis and work of the 13,000 students and faculty – it is exploitive commentary and needs to be removed from what should be a simple description of the university, devoid of salacious commentary.
In regard to your comment of unilateral activity – that’s exactly what happened to get this story included in the description of the university in the first place. It should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.110.131 ( talk) 22:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, you have either missed the point or have chosen to misread the facts. An instructor was found to have plagiarized when she was a student. A different student discovered it. The discoverer was initially not believed and was disciplined. It was later determined that the discoverer was indeed correct and she was absolved of error. The plagiarist was indeed and deemed a plagarist, when she was a student, and she was disciplined via the rescinding of her degree. It is still, however, the actions of one student, which was addressed, and is not worthy of tainting the school, other students, or alumni. The only original research on my part was to read the media articles referenced in the wiki by either the journalist himself or the student initially pointing out the non-cited material of the plagiarist. Either way you are supporting a self-serving entry as though it has relevance - which it does not.
And what is your logic? Other than you don't award me any points due to stubbornness? I certainly don't have a lock on that. You and your buddies have been nothing but non-reasoning in this. Simply responsive and reactive not thoughtful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.89.148 ( talk) 03:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a question about the plagiarism incident. I'm aware of plagiarism incidents similar to this at non-profit State Universities, but they do not appear on their Wikipedia entry. Is there a reason why a single plagiarism incident should be included in every university entry? This is a problem not isolated to this university. I agree with the initial move to remove this section, since the omission of such incidents on other university pages makes this reference seem intended to create bias against this institution. RichardHansen ( talk) 19:20, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Nomoskedasticity. Based on that consideration, I would say perhaps it doesn't belong. There is more significant coverage of plagiarism incidents in major universities, yet the Wiki entries don't mention them. One example (quickly found in a Google search just now) is an incident at Purdue, somewhat like this one--also involving a doctoral dissertation: http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110726/LOCAL04/110729590. No mention of this appears in the Wiki page for Purdue University. Also, this one seems quite newsworthy with some very unusual features but it also does not appear on the relevant university's wikipage. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/52378377-78/bakhtiari-university-panel-plagiarism.html.csp?page=1 RichardHansen ( talk) 20:53, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
It also seems that almost all major incidents of plagiarism are "hushed up" by schools, which makes the incident quoted in the current wiki-article rather unremarkable--the prevalence of such incidents is very high. For instance, one investigation notes that most incidents go undetected or unreported. "Julie Ryan, an instructor at George Washington University, found that '7 of 42 students plagiarized most or all of their papers' in a class during the Fall 1997 semester. She says that, in the Spring 1998 semester, again 17 % of the students "plagiarized their entire papers." But wait! That 17 % only represents the plagiarists that she caught by using the AltaVista search engine on the Internet, a method that will not find students who plagiarized from books, scholarly journals, old term papers by other students, material sold by term paper mills, .... So the true incidence of plagiarism among students is higher than one in six." http://www.rbs2.com/plag.htm. RichardHansen ( talk) 21:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, had to post this example because it has a humorous side to it: two students from U of VA actually plagiarized from Wikipedia articles. :) http://www.c-ville.com/Article/UVA/Honor_Committee_to_vote_on_definition_of_plagiarism/?z_Issue_ID=11801611092999015 RichardHansen ( talk) 21:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
As determined by numerous litigations, Argosy University (along with many other colleges and universities) is considered predatory for being involved in certain unethical acts which have in turn caused all their colleges to be shut down and for students to fight for reimbursement of student loans. As students try to recoup for their losses, it makes sense that anything posted by students stay posted. Students have few resources to turn to in reporting what happened and when other than just being able to base events off their own recollection. As with any investigation, it also makes sense there will be those who are self-serving in an attempt to preserve the reputations of those who were found to be in violation of rules and regulations set forth by overseers of collegiate academia and the rights of students [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 03aries30 ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I would favor listing only the location cats where this institution has a main branch. Thoughts? RevelationDirect ( talk) 04:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I would also be in favor of removing the list of locations, or at least reducing it to a summary statement. Of course, I should have read this before I went in and fixed the multiple bare urls in the location list! That took a while, and now I'm not sure I have the motivation to go in and figure out how best to reduce the list. I'll check in again in a couple of days if no one else has gotten to it by then. DaisySaunders ( talk) 21:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello. First time using a Talk page. The assertion that Argosy is "16th in Online Educational Database's list of `The Best Online Universities'" seems to be inaccurate. The site referenced in footnote 15 is actually called the Open Education Database, and I could not find Argosy ranked on any of their lists nor do they have a general "best online universities" category. Perhaps that information was accurate in 2011.
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Hello RicochetRabbit, welcome to Wikipedia! I have not seen the website in question but if it is presently inaccurate the best course of action would be to replace the citation with an archived one and adjust the text so that it indicates the 2011 nature of the award. Juno ( talk) 21:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have two comments on your draft article - I don't know why you call Argosy a system of universities, it appears to be a system of colleges (i.e. a single university). As well, there are some punctuation errors and inconsistencies that I'd like to fix on your draft article. I suppose that otherwise your changes are satisfactory and beneficial, and I will implement them as soon as the above comments are settled. Cheers.-- ɱ (talk) 22:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Ɱ for making the remaining updates to this article. This concludes my request for review of the new draft for this article.
Before I close my edit request, there is a new edit to the article that was made over the weekend and I'd like to ask for editors to take a look at. The following sentence was added to the end of the Legal issues and enrollment allegations section:
Both sources given are pages on the Argosy University website (a page detailing the Applied Psychology programs at the campus, and the page listing campuses which offer Clinical Psychology degrees), which do not fully support the details added. In particular, that the campus "gave up" on pursuing APA accreditation is not supported at all by the links. If editors think that it would be helpful, I feel that the links could be used to state that, as of the current date, the Dallas campus does not offer any degrees in clinical psychology and is not listed as part of the university's College of Clinical Psychology. Otherwise, I feel that the above unsupported information should be removed. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 17:54, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, again. I've been monitoring this article since last year when I proposed improvements and worked with other editors to implement a new draft. Recently, an IP editor added an update to the article's lede about Argosy's civil suit. As this case is discussed in detail in the Legal issues and enrollment allegations section, I'd like to suggest moving it down to follow the first paragraph under that heading. I'd appreciate it if any editors here could take a look at the change and make the edit if they agree with my suggestion. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 19:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello to anyone who may be watching this page. I've been taking a look at the Legal issues section and I'd like to propose some new wording for the final topic covered, the recent investigation by the Colorado attorney general. Below is some updated language:
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I believe this new wording is both a more accurate representation of the events and provides clearer details in a more neutral manner. I'd also like to suggest removing or replacing the press release that is currently cited as a source. If other editors agree, I'd appreciate if someone could move this new version over to the article. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 16:41, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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WWB Too asked me to take a look here based on a lack of response to his latest attempt at wording. I do actually see a problem with the current wording. We should not say "Argosy led students to believe..." in Wikipedia's voice. We don't know if that was the case. We do know that the Colorado AG's investigation claimed it was the case, but I'm assuming that the settlement precluded a trial, so we don't have a judicial finding of fault, only charges (in the non-legal sense of the word, at least) that the Colorado AG believed were substantiated. I think that's reason enough to adopt wording similar to what WWB Too has proposed, making it clear that these were the result of the AG's investigation, not a legal finding of fact or fault. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 20:59, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
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An anon seems to be adding Dr. Orlando Rivero to the notable alumni section after having him removed a few times (always with poorly formatted citations). I do not want to get into an editing war, but it does not seem like this person meets the criteria for being notable. Seems like if every director of university departments was listed as notable alumni on college pages, the notable alumni sections could get ridiculously long. Does anyone have anything to say in support of this person being added? EtanaLF ( talk) 20:23, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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I have on several occasions tried to remove the comment regarding one student's plagiarism and the school's response to it. The moderator then describes my removal of the comment as being unconstructive. I contend that its inclusion is unconstructive and non-value added. It is a single point in time issue relating to one ex-student and now it takes a prominent position in a description of the school itself - this is one more example of the wiki model protecting the salacious to the exclusion of balance and fair play. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.89.148 ( talk) 02:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
You do not understand what occurred. The instructor in question, when she was a student (1) working on her own dissertation, appears to have not used APA citation – or perhaps much citation at all in some instances and after the instructor had graduated with her doctorate, a different student (2), when reviewing the problematic dissertation saw citation inconsistencies.
This student (2) brought the question up to her faculty members who did not agree with her regarding her observation of plagiarism. The student (2) did not agree with their finding and continued to press the issue. Student (2) was then admonished and a note was added to her file. The issue continued to circulate and was brought to the attention of the press in Chicago – who asked for more detail.
The university first stood by the findings of the local faculty member who determined no plagiaristic foul on the part of the student (1). The university continued to evaluate the paper and then concluded that there was, intentional or not, substantial plagiarism on the part of the student (1) in her dissertation. Student (1) was removed from her teaching assignment, her dissertation voided and her degree rescinded. Student (2) was absolved of any wrongdoing and her file cleansed of related commentary. Student (1) was after a period of time, allowed to reapply, and then develop, complete and submit an entirely new dissertation. The entire event was handled consistent with policy and represented the most vigorous and meaningful approach to correcting a recent issue of plagiarism – review other occurrences and note the absence of corrective action on the part of whichever university was involved. No other recent plagiarist has been stripped of his or her awarded degree, removed form teaching and made to completely re-do and re-submit their dissertation.
Wrongs occurred which were corrected. They won’t happen again. They were, still, a point in time occurrence with one student plagiarist and one faculty member misevaluating the occurrence, all of which was corrected. The plagiarist, in trying to reestablish herself in academia, has pointed to other such occurrences of plagiarism at other universities claiming to have made a similar oversight and claiming much to do over little – no one is buying it, in particular student (2) and her substantially reformatted ex-faculty member.
But, it still is not other than a point in time occurrence on the part of a couple of people and does not represent the basis and work of the 13,000 students and faculty – it is exploitive commentary and needs to be removed from what should be a simple description of the university, devoid of salacious commentary.
In regard to your comment of unilateral activity – that’s exactly what happened to get this story included in the description of the university in the first place. It should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.110.131 ( talk) 22:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, you have either missed the point or have chosen to misread the facts. An instructor was found to have plagiarized when she was a student. A different student discovered it. The discoverer was initially not believed and was disciplined. It was later determined that the discoverer was indeed correct and she was absolved of error. The plagiarist was indeed and deemed a plagarist, when she was a student, and she was disciplined via the rescinding of her degree. It is still, however, the actions of one student, which was addressed, and is not worthy of tainting the school, other students, or alumni. The only original research on my part was to read the media articles referenced in the wiki by either the journalist himself or the student initially pointing out the non-cited material of the plagiarist. Either way you are supporting a self-serving entry as though it has relevance - which it does not.
And what is your logic? Other than you don't award me any points due to stubbornness? I certainly don't have a lock on that. You and your buddies have been nothing but non-reasoning in this. Simply responsive and reactive not thoughtful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.89.148 ( talk) 03:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a question about the plagiarism incident. I'm aware of plagiarism incidents similar to this at non-profit State Universities, but they do not appear on their Wikipedia entry. Is there a reason why a single plagiarism incident should be included in every university entry? This is a problem not isolated to this university. I agree with the initial move to remove this section, since the omission of such incidents on other university pages makes this reference seem intended to create bias against this institution. RichardHansen ( talk) 19:20, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Nomoskedasticity. Based on that consideration, I would say perhaps it doesn't belong. There is more significant coverage of plagiarism incidents in major universities, yet the Wiki entries don't mention them. One example (quickly found in a Google search just now) is an incident at Purdue, somewhat like this one--also involving a doctoral dissertation: http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110726/LOCAL04/110729590. No mention of this appears in the Wiki page for Purdue University. Also, this one seems quite newsworthy with some very unusual features but it also does not appear on the relevant university's wikipage. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/52378377-78/bakhtiari-university-panel-plagiarism.html.csp?page=1 RichardHansen ( talk) 20:53, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
It also seems that almost all major incidents of plagiarism are "hushed up" by schools, which makes the incident quoted in the current wiki-article rather unremarkable--the prevalence of such incidents is very high. For instance, one investigation notes that most incidents go undetected or unreported. "Julie Ryan, an instructor at George Washington University, found that '7 of 42 students plagiarized most or all of their papers' in a class during the Fall 1997 semester. She says that, in the Spring 1998 semester, again 17 % of the students "plagiarized their entire papers." But wait! That 17 % only represents the plagiarists that she caught by using the AltaVista search engine on the Internet, a method that will not find students who plagiarized from books, scholarly journals, old term papers by other students, material sold by term paper mills, .... So the true incidence of plagiarism among students is higher than one in six." http://www.rbs2.com/plag.htm. RichardHansen ( talk) 21:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, had to post this example because it has a humorous side to it: two students from U of VA actually plagiarized from Wikipedia articles. :) http://www.c-ville.com/Article/UVA/Honor_Committee_to_vote_on_definition_of_plagiarism/?z_Issue_ID=11801611092999015 RichardHansen ( talk) 21:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
As determined by numerous litigations, Argosy University (along with many other colleges and universities) is considered predatory for being involved in certain unethical acts which have in turn caused all their colleges to be shut down and for students to fight for reimbursement of student loans. As students try to recoup for their losses, it makes sense that anything posted by students stay posted. Students have few resources to turn to in reporting what happened and when other than just being able to base events off their own recollection. As with any investigation, it also makes sense there will be those who are self-serving in an attempt to preserve the reputations of those who were found to be in violation of rules and regulations set forth by overseers of collegiate academia and the rights of students [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 03aries30 ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I would favor listing only the location cats where this institution has a main branch. Thoughts? RevelationDirect ( talk) 04:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I would also be in favor of removing the list of locations, or at least reducing it to a summary statement. Of course, I should have read this before I went in and fixed the multiple bare urls in the location list! That took a while, and now I'm not sure I have the motivation to go in and figure out how best to reduce the list. I'll check in again in a couple of days if no one else has gotten to it by then. DaisySaunders ( talk) 21:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello. First time using a Talk page. The assertion that Argosy is "16th in Online Educational Database's list of `The Best Online Universities'" seems to be inaccurate. The site referenced in footnote 15 is actually called the Open Education Database, and I could not find Argosy ranked on any of their lists nor do they have a general "best online universities" category. Perhaps that information was accurate in 2011.
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Hello RicochetRabbit, welcome to Wikipedia! I have not seen the website in question but if it is presently inaccurate the best course of action would be to replace the citation with an archived one and adjust the text so that it indicates the 2011 nature of the award. Juno ( talk) 21:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Greetings, anyone watching this page. This article has been edited only sporadically over the last few years and as a result it is out-of-date and in need of some upkeep. Relatedly, many references are now dead links and the article has always relied very heavily on primary sources. To address these issues and other problems, I've researched and written a draft I think should replace it, but before I explain my intended improvements, I would like to make clear that I am a consultant to Education Management Corporation (EDMC), Argosy University's parent company. For this reason, I will not make any edits to the article myself, but am looking instead for editors to review what I have prepared and make the updates as they see fit.
For easy comparison, here are links to the current version of the article, and my proposed draft:
To assist potential reviewers, I've put together detailed notes explaining my intentions and the differences between the current article and my draft. The section headings below correlate with the current article so editors can easily follow how I've handled the existing article text. You will notice however that my draft is restructured and uses some slightly different section headings.
I understand that this is a significant amount of information to process. I have tried to be as detailed as possible in my notes, while trying to keep this readable. If you have any questions about changes I have made, please leave me a message here. Likewise, please feel free to make any changes you feel are needed directly to the draft in my user space. If you review my draft and have no concerns I would really appreciate it if you could replace the current version with what I have prepared. One last comment: the image and categories have been disable in my draft so they will need to be fixed when grabbing the markup from my user space. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 14:27, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I have two comments on your draft article - I don't know why you call Argosy a system of universities, it appears to be a system of colleges (i.e. a single university). As well, there are some punctuation errors and inconsistencies that I'd like to fix on your draft article. I suppose that otherwise your changes are satisfactory and beneficial, and I will implement them as soon as the above comments are settled. Cheers.-- ɱ (talk) 22:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Ɱ for making the remaining updates to this article. This concludes my request for review of the new draft for this article.
Before I close my edit request, there is a new edit to the article that was made over the weekend and I'd like to ask for editors to take a look at. The following sentence was added to the end of the Legal issues and enrollment allegations section:
Both sources given are pages on the Argosy University website (a page detailing the Applied Psychology programs at the campus, and the page listing campuses which offer Clinical Psychology degrees), which do not fully support the details added. In particular, that the campus "gave up" on pursuing APA accreditation is not supported at all by the links. If editors think that it would be helpful, I feel that the links could be used to state that, as of the current date, the Dallas campus does not offer any degrees in clinical psychology and is not listed as part of the university's College of Clinical Psychology. Otherwise, I feel that the above unsupported information should be removed. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 17:54, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, again. I've been monitoring this article since last year when I proposed improvements and worked with other editors to implement a new draft. Recently, an IP editor added an update to the article's lede about Argosy's civil suit. As this case is discussed in detail in the Legal issues and enrollment allegations section, I'd like to suggest moving it down to follow the first paragraph under that heading. I'd appreciate it if any editors here could take a look at the change and make the edit if they agree with my suggestion. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 19:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello to anyone who may be watching this page. I've been taking a look at the Legal issues section and I'd like to propose some new wording for the final topic covered, the recent investigation by the Colorado attorney general. Below is some updated language:
References
I believe this new wording is both a more accurate representation of the events and provides clearer details in a more neutral manner. I'd also like to suggest removing or replacing the press release that is currently cited as a source. If other editors agree, I'd appreciate if someone could move this new version over to the article. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 16:41, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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WWB Too asked me to take a look here based on a lack of response to his latest attempt at wording. I do actually see a problem with the current wording. We should not say "Argosy led students to believe..." in Wikipedia's voice. We don't know if that was the case. We do know that the Colorado AG's investigation claimed it was the case, but I'm assuming that the settlement precluded a trial, so we don't have a judicial finding of fault, only charges (in the non-legal sense of the word, at least) that the Colorado AG believed were substantiated. I think that's reason enough to adopt wording similar to what WWB Too has proposed, making it clear that these were the result of the AG's investigation, not a legal finding of fact or fault. Acdixon ( talk · contribs) 20:59, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
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