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Arameans in Israel are no other than Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel. The possibility to claim an Aramean identity is mentioned in the article Maronites in Israel and should be mentioned in the other one too, but I do not see the need of creating this fork. I suggest a disamb page here. Shmayo ( talk) 21:15, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Could you tell me where you have read that Jacobites and Nestorians are/were classified different ( WP:NOR)? And even if that would be correct, this really doesn't mean that Maronites, Syrian-Orthodox Christians and the others will be classified as Arameans, those who want can now seek to be registered as Arameans, that is stated in the news articles, so I really don't understand why this article would include all of them. But most important, the Hebrew term isn't really relevant here on English Wikipedia. This article is nothing but a fork, Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel now have the rights to be registered as Arameans in Israel if they want too, which should be mentioned in those two articles, but this fork isn't necessary. I'm still for the disamb page. Shmayo ( talk) 17:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, interesting. According to the other articles Maronites (and others) have to seek to be registered as such. Then again, most important, the Hebrew terms or what is recognized is not relevant on English Wikipdia, especially therefore I'm for the disamb page. How is this article supposed to improve if we got another describing almost the exact same thing? I am willing to go with the merge if you don't think that a disamb page is good here, but I am not for the article remaining beacause of the reasons above, and even more after the numbers and statistics. Shmayo ( talk) 13:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
But my main point is that it doesn't matter, this is English Wikipedia. If the information is incorrect, as we know now, we can't wait and see. We could wait before improving the " Maronites in Israel" article with a new section about it, but as long as this is a fork, and an incorrect one, it can't stay. I will revert back to the disamb version as it is pretty clear from this discussion that there is no need for this misleading fork. Shmayo ( talk) 20:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like the disamb page fits perfect then. You are still missing my main point; on English Wikipedia we are not following what the Israeli, or any other, government has decided. Stop making new assumptions about the numbers, that is not what this is about. As I said, I will revert back to the disamb page, it's clear from above that this is very misleading. Shmayo ( talk) 21:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
@Shmayo You are the one who first removed the WHOLE article without a discussion and finding consensus and then complaining about edit wars? This article should stay like this before Shmayo did his first "edit" to it until the problem is solved!--
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As previously mentioned according to Israeli PIBA, the definition of Assyrians (Neo-Aramaic speaking adherents of Syrian Orthodox and Chaldean Catholic Chrusches) is different from Arameans (Aramaic-speaking Maronite Catholic, Syrian Catholic and Greek Orthodox adherents). To disambig from Arameans to Assyrians is therefore simply incorrect. GreyShark ( dibra) 21:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Obviously you're still missing my point. I'm not saying that the sources are not reliable and not in English, I used these sources myself in the disamb. What I am saying is that these people are nothing but Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel, just because these people now got the right to be registered as Arameans doesn't mean you have to make up some supposed ethnic group with a population of 10.500, a number made up by you. Besides these articles telling about the news about these new rights, these people are still more commonly know by the names mentioned above in English. Shmayo ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Due to the choice of the term "Aramean", this article has been erroneously confused with the community of the same name who are commonly known as Assyrians, as demonstrated with sources at Assyrian people, however, it obviously refers to a minute number of Israeli Christians who have adopted this new ethnicity. The source that @ Aram-Israel: has been touting, Arameans in the Middle East and Israel indicates only 16 people have been registered as "Aramean" from January 2014 to February 2017, well below the proclaimed 15,000 people in the infobox. No sources have been provided to shed any further light in the intervening period between now and then, and much of the information available online relates to the historical Aramean people or the debate surrounding the creation of this new ethnicity in 2014, with no indication that there has been any significant increase in that number of people.
The source provided, and the only sourced material in this article, refer to the possibility of Israeli Arab Christians adopting this new ethnicity, and does not suggest it is an existing sizeable minority community in Israel. I have thus moved the sourced content in this article to Christianity in Israel as this evidently an issue of identity in the Israeli Arab Christian community, and is not an actual ethnic group. Mugsalot ( talk) 23:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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Can the flag be removed by a picture of one of the churches. The Aramean flag is irrelevant in this article, a picture of the Aramean church would be better.
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19:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Users user:Mugsalot and user:Aram-Israel, please discuss the content and establish consensus by paragraph prior to changing the stable version - especially Mugsalot - do not be too hawkish here, the issue is sensitive and your opinion (trying to blank the page / merging it) should be balanced with others. GreyShark ( dibra) 12:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
I have pointed it out before; what is the relevance of the Aramean-Syriac flag in this article? The "Arameans in Israel" are mostly Maronites - do these even use this flag? It should be pointed out that the flag is mostly used by pro-Aramean organization (mostly in Europe) among Syriac Orthodox people. Regardsless, I do not think that the flag is relevant for this article in particular. Shmayo ( talk) 13:20, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
The article has sentences like "at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation"; however, "googling" the issue, many articles ( example) give the impression that almost all Arabic-speaking Christians of Israel could choose to be registered as Arameasn. MiguelMadeira ( talk) 23:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
I suggest that some paragraphs are removed and the article is restructured like below (see "Before" and "After" hide-show boxes). The four paragraphs under current history sections are being removed in new version: First is irrelevant (biblical), the second from a unreliable source, third and fourth on Syriac Christians in general (not really linked to "Arameans in Israel"). Thoughts? Shmayo ( talk) 11:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Abraham, the father of Western monotheism, was believed to be of Aramean ancestry. The Jews and Christians regard him as the Patriarch of the Jewish people. Abraham's son Isaac and grandson Jacob, also each took wives of Aramean descent: (respectively, Rebecca, and Leah and Rachel), who originated from the Aramean region of Paddan-Aram. The Aramean presence in Israel goes back to 1100 BCE, when much of Israel came under Aramean rule for eight years according to the Biblical Book of Judges, until Othniel defeated the forces led by Chushan-Rishathaim, the King of Aram-Naharaim.
After the Arameans converted to Syriac Christianity they became involved in the expansion of Christianity throughout the Middle-East, which resulted in various Syriac monasteries and churches being built especially in Jerusalem and Bethlehem of whom the Monastery of Saint Mark, Jerusalem among the oldest. According to a 6th-century inscription Inscription at the Monastery of St Mark's in Jerusalem found during a restoration in 1940, the church is on the ancient site of the house of Mary, mother of St. Mark the Evangelist (Acts 12:12) and the place of the Last Supper of Christ with His disciples. Some Christians believe that the Last Supper was held at the nearby Cenacle on Mount Zion.
Around 1831 large numbers of Syriac Christians started to emigrate to Israel as pilgrims and settled there, mostly originating from the Tur Abdin region. During the Seyfo: the genocide on Syriac Christians in the Ottoman Empire a large mass emigration occurred from Tur-Abdin. They mainly settled in Jerusalem, Bethlehem and in smaller numbers in Jericho and Nazareth. In Bethlehem they also constructed the Virgin Mary church between 1922 and 1928 in the Syriac Quarter.
The 1922 census of Palestine lists 813 Syrian Orthodox (2 in Southern, 784 in Jerusalem-Jaffa, 4 in Samaria, and 23 in Northern) and 323 Syrian Catholic (10 in Southern, 189 in Jerusalem-Jaffa, 14 in Samaria, and 110 in Northern) Christians in Mandatory Palestine. The 1922 census also lists 422 Syriac language speakers (all in Jerusalem-Jaffa), including 408 in municipal areas (38 in Jerusalem, 369 in Bethlehem, 25 in Acre, and 1 in Beit Jala).
In July 2016, an article in the Ha'aretz estimated the number of Israeli Christians eligible to register as Arameans in Israel to be 13,000. In October 2019, the Israeli Christian Aramaic Organization estimated the number of Israeli citizens, who are eligible to obtain Aramean affiliation at 15,000.
According to a 2022 article in Middle Eastern Studies, no less than 2,500 Israelis are known to have registered as Arameans at the Israeli Ministry of Interior, whereas another 2,000 are known to have applied for changing their national denomination from Arab to Aramean. These 4,500 people in total constitute c. 1,5% of Israel's Christian population.
In September 2014, Minister of the Interior Gideon Sa'ar instructed the PIBA to recognise Arameans as an ethnicity separate from Israeli Arabs. Under the Ministry of the Interior's guidance, people born into Christian families or clans who have either Aramaic or Maronite cultural heritage within their family are eligible to register as Arameans. About 200 Christian families were thought to be eligible prior to this decision. According to an August 9, 2013 Israel Hayom article, at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation, including 10,000 Maronites (which included 2,000 former SLA members) and 500 Syriac Catholics.
The first person to receive the "Aramean" ethnic status in Israel was 2 year old Yaakov Halul in Jish on October 20, 2014.
In 2019, an Israeli court ruled that Aramean minorities could choose a Jewish or Arab education, rather than requiring children with Aramean identity to be automatically enrolled in Arabic-language schools.
The recognition of the Aramean ethnicity caused mixed reactions among Israeli minorities, the Christian community, and among the general Arab Israeli population. Representatives of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem denounced the move.
Mordechai Kedar advocates the recognition of the Aramean identity and calls on the government of Israel to promote the awareness regarding this issue on the basis of the international principle of ethnic self-determination as espoused by Wilson's 14 points. One of the supporters of the recognition of the Aramean identity is Gabriel Naddaf, who is a priest to the Greek Orthodox Christians in Israel. He advocated on behalf of his Aramean followers and thanked the Interior Ministry's decision as a "historic move".
In September 2014, Minister of the Interior Gideon Sa'ar instructed the PIBA to recognise Arameans as an ethnicity separate from Israeli Arabs. Under the Ministry of the Interior's guidance, people born into Christian families or clans who have either Aramaic or Maronite cultural heritage within their family are eligible to register as Arameans. About 200 Christian families were thought to be eligible prior to this decision. According to an August 9, 2013 Israel Hayom article, at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation, including 10,000 Maronites (which included 2,000 former SLA members) and 500 Syriac Catholics.
The first person to receive the "Aramean" ethnic status in Israel was 2 year old Yaakov Halul in Jish on October 20, 2014.
In 2019, an Israeli court ruled that Aramean minorities could choose a Jewish or Arab education, rather than requiring children with Aramean identity to be automatically enrolled in Arabic-language schools.
The recognition of the Aramean ethnicity caused mixed reactions among Israeli minorities, the Christian community, and among the general Arab Israeli population. Representatives of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem denounced the move.
Mordechai Kedar advocates the recognition of the Aramean identity and calls on the government of Israel to promote the awareness regarding this issue on the basis of the international principle of ethnic self-determination as espoused by Wilson's 14 points. One of the supporters of the recognition of the Aramean identity is Gabriel Naddaf, who is a priest to the Greek Orthodox Christians in Israel. He advocated on behalf of his Aramean followers and thanked the Interior Ministry's decision as a "historic move".
In July 2016, an article in the Ha'aretz estimated the number of Israeli Christians eligible to register as Arameans in Israel to be 13,000. In October 2019, the Israeli Christian Aramaic Organization estimated the number of Israeli citizens, who are eligible to obtain Aramean affiliation at 15,000.
According to a 2022 article in Middle Eastern Studies, no less than 2,500 Israelis are known to have registered as Arameans at the Israeli Ministry of Interior, whereas another 2,000 are known to have applied for changing their national denomination from Arab to Aramean. These 4,500 people in total constitute c. 1,5% of Israel's Christian population.
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Arameans in Israel are no other than Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel. The possibility to claim an Aramean identity is mentioned in the article Maronites in Israel and should be mentioned in the other one too, but I do not see the need of creating this fork. I suggest a disamb page here. Shmayo ( talk) 21:15, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Could you tell me where you have read that Jacobites and Nestorians are/were classified different ( WP:NOR)? And even if that would be correct, this really doesn't mean that Maronites, Syrian-Orthodox Christians and the others will be classified as Arameans, those who want can now seek to be registered as Arameans, that is stated in the news articles, so I really don't understand why this article would include all of them. But most important, the Hebrew term isn't really relevant here on English Wikipedia. This article is nothing but a fork, Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel now have the rights to be registered as Arameans in Israel if they want too, which should be mentioned in those two articles, but this fork isn't necessary. I'm still for the disamb page. Shmayo ( talk) 17:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, interesting. According to the other articles Maronites (and others) have to seek to be registered as such. Then again, most important, the Hebrew terms or what is recognized is not relevant on English Wikipdia, especially therefore I'm for the disamb page. How is this article supposed to improve if we got another describing almost the exact same thing? I am willing to go with the merge if you don't think that a disamb page is good here, but I am not for the article remaining beacause of the reasons above, and even more after the numbers and statistics. Shmayo ( talk) 13:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
But my main point is that it doesn't matter, this is English Wikipedia. If the information is incorrect, as we know now, we can't wait and see. We could wait before improving the " Maronites in Israel" article with a new section about it, but as long as this is a fork, and an incorrect one, it can't stay. I will revert back to the disamb version as it is pretty clear from this discussion that there is no need for this misleading fork. Shmayo ( talk) 20:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like the disamb page fits perfect then. You are still missing my main point; on English Wikipedia we are not following what the Israeli, or any other, government has decided. Stop making new assumptions about the numbers, that is not what this is about. As I said, I will revert back to the disamb page, it's clear from above that this is very misleading. Shmayo ( talk) 21:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
@Shmayo You are the one who first removed the WHOLE article without a discussion and finding consensus and then complaining about edit wars? This article should stay like this before Shmayo did his first "edit" to it until the problem is solved!--
TmG12 (
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14:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
As previously mentioned according to Israeli PIBA, the definition of Assyrians (Neo-Aramaic speaking adherents of Syrian Orthodox and Chaldean Catholic Chrusches) is different from Arameans (Aramaic-speaking Maronite Catholic, Syrian Catholic and Greek Orthodox adherents). To disambig from Arameans to Assyrians is therefore simply incorrect. GreyShark ( dibra) 21:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Obviously you're still missing my point. I'm not saying that the sources are not reliable and not in English, I used these sources myself in the disamb. What I am saying is that these people are nothing but Maronites in Israel and Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans in Israel, just because these people now got the right to be registered as Arameans doesn't mean you have to make up some supposed ethnic group with a population of 10.500, a number made up by you. Besides these articles telling about the news about these new rights, these people are still more commonly know by the names mentioned above in English. Shmayo ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Due to the choice of the term "Aramean", this article has been erroneously confused with the community of the same name who are commonly known as Assyrians, as demonstrated with sources at Assyrian people, however, it obviously refers to a minute number of Israeli Christians who have adopted this new ethnicity. The source that @ Aram-Israel: has been touting, Arameans in the Middle East and Israel indicates only 16 people have been registered as "Aramean" from January 2014 to February 2017, well below the proclaimed 15,000 people in the infobox. No sources have been provided to shed any further light in the intervening period between now and then, and much of the information available online relates to the historical Aramean people or the debate surrounding the creation of this new ethnicity in 2014, with no indication that there has been any significant increase in that number of people.
The source provided, and the only sourced material in this article, refer to the possibility of Israeli Arab Christians adopting this new ethnicity, and does not suggest it is an existing sizeable minority community in Israel. I have thus moved the sourced content in this article to Christianity in Israel as this evidently an issue of identity in the Israeli Arab Christian community, and is not an actual ethnic group. Mugsalot ( talk) 23:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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Can the flag be removed by a picture of one of the churches. The Aramean flag is irrelevant in this article, a picture of the Aramean church would be better.
Please add the next file:
MixedButHumann ( talk) 12:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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template. — Martin (
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19:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Users user:Mugsalot and user:Aram-Israel, please discuss the content and establish consensus by paragraph prior to changing the stable version - especially Mugsalot - do not be too hawkish here, the issue is sensitive and your opinion (trying to blank the page / merging it) should be balanced with others. GreyShark ( dibra) 12:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
I have pointed it out before; what is the relevance of the Aramean-Syriac flag in this article? The "Arameans in Israel" are mostly Maronites - do these even use this flag? It should be pointed out that the flag is mostly used by pro-Aramean organization (mostly in Europe) among Syriac Orthodox people. Regardsless, I do not think that the flag is relevant for this article in particular. Shmayo ( talk) 13:20, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
The article has sentences like "at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation"; however, "googling" the issue, many articles ( example) give the impression that almost all Arabic-speaking Christians of Israel could choose to be registered as Arameasn. MiguelMadeira ( talk) 23:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
I suggest that some paragraphs are removed and the article is restructured like below (see "Before" and "After" hide-show boxes). The four paragraphs under current history sections are being removed in new version: First is irrelevant (biblical), the second from a unreliable source, third and fourth on Syriac Christians in general (not really linked to "Arameans in Israel"). Thoughts? Shmayo ( talk) 11:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Abraham, the father of Western monotheism, was believed to be of Aramean ancestry. The Jews and Christians regard him as the Patriarch of the Jewish people. Abraham's son Isaac and grandson Jacob, also each took wives of Aramean descent: (respectively, Rebecca, and Leah and Rachel), who originated from the Aramean region of Paddan-Aram. The Aramean presence in Israel goes back to 1100 BCE, when much of Israel came under Aramean rule for eight years according to the Biblical Book of Judges, until Othniel defeated the forces led by Chushan-Rishathaim, the King of Aram-Naharaim.
After the Arameans converted to Syriac Christianity they became involved in the expansion of Christianity throughout the Middle-East, which resulted in various Syriac monasteries and churches being built especially in Jerusalem and Bethlehem of whom the Monastery of Saint Mark, Jerusalem among the oldest. According to a 6th-century inscription Inscription at the Monastery of St Mark's in Jerusalem found during a restoration in 1940, the church is on the ancient site of the house of Mary, mother of St. Mark the Evangelist (Acts 12:12) and the place of the Last Supper of Christ with His disciples. Some Christians believe that the Last Supper was held at the nearby Cenacle on Mount Zion.
Around 1831 large numbers of Syriac Christians started to emigrate to Israel as pilgrims and settled there, mostly originating from the Tur Abdin region. During the Seyfo: the genocide on Syriac Christians in the Ottoman Empire a large mass emigration occurred from Tur-Abdin. They mainly settled in Jerusalem, Bethlehem and in smaller numbers in Jericho and Nazareth. In Bethlehem they also constructed the Virgin Mary church between 1922 and 1928 in the Syriac Quarter.
The 1922 census of Palestine lists 813 Syrian Orthodox (2 in Southern, 784 in Jerusalem-Jaffa, 4 in Samaria, and 23 in Northern) and 323 Syrian Catholic (10 in Southern, 189 in Jerusalem-Jaffa, 14 in Samaria, and 110 in Northern) Christians in Mandatory Palestine. The 1922 census also lists 422 Syriac language speakers (all in Jerusalem-Jaffa), including 408 in municipal areas (38 in Jerusalem, 369 in Bethlehem, 25 in Acre, and 1 in Beit Jala).
In July 2016, an article in the Ha'aretz estimated the number of Israeli Christians eligible to register as Arameans in Israel to be 13,000. In October 2019, the Israeli Christian Aramaic Organization estimated the number of Israeli citizens, who are eligible to obtain Aramean affiliation at 15,000.
According to a 2022 article in Middle Eastern Studies, no less than 2,500 Israelis are known to have registered as Arameans at the Israeli Ministry of Interior, whereas another 2,000 are known to have applied for changing their national denomination from Arab to Aramean. These 4,500 people in total constitute c. 1,5% of Israel's Christian population.
In September 2014, Minister of the Interior Gideon Sa'ar instructed the PIBA to recognise Arameans as an ethnicity separate from Israeli Arabs. Under the Ministry of the Interior's guidance, people born into Christian families or clans who have either Aramaic or Maronite cultural heritage within their family are eligible to register as Arameans. About 200 Christian families were thought to be eligible prior to this decision. According to an August 9, 2013 Israel Hayom article, at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation, including 10,000 Maronites (which included 2,000 former SLA members) and 500 Syriac Catholics.
The first person to receive the "Aramean" ethnic status in Israel was 2 year old Yaakov Halul in Jish on October 20, 2014.
In 2019, an Israeli court ruled that Aramean minorities could choose a Jewish or Arab education, rather than requiring children with Aramean identity to be automatically enrolled in Arabic-language schools.
The recognition of the Aramean ethnicity caused mixed reactions among Israeli minorities, the Christian community, and among the general Arab Israeli population. Representatives of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem denounced the move.
Mordechai Kedar advocates the recognition of the Aramean identity and calls on the government of Israel to promote the awareness regarding this issue on the basis of the international principle of ethnic self-determination as espoused by Wilson's 14 points. One of the supporters of the recognition of the Aramean identity is Gabriel Naddaf, who is a priest to the Greek Orthodox Christians in Israel. He advocated on behalf of his Aramean followers and thanked the Interior Ministry's decision as a "historic move".
In September 2014, Minister of the Interior Gideon Sa'ar instructed the PIBA to recognise Arameans as an ethnicity separate from Israeli Arabs. Under the Ministry of the Interior's guidance, people born into Christian families or clans who have either Aramaic or Maronite cultural heritage within their family are eligible to register as Arameans. About 200 Christian families were thought to be eligible prior to this decision. According to an August 9, 2013 Israel Hayom article, at that time an estimated 10,500 persons were eligible to receive Aramean ethnic status according to the new regulation, including 10,000 Maronites (which included 2,000 former SLA members) and 500 Syriac Catholics.
The first person to receive the "Aramean" ethnic status in Israel was 2 year old Yaakov Halul in Jish on October 20, 2014.
In 2019, an Israeli court ruled that Aramean minorities could choose a Jewish or Arab education, rather than requiring children with Aramean identity to be automatically enrolled in Arabic-language schools.
The recognition of the Aramean ethnicity caused mixed reactions among Israeli minorities, the Christian community, and among the general Arab Israeli population. Representatives of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem denounced the move.
Mordechai Kedar advocates the recognition of the Aramean identity and calls on the government of Israel to promote the awareness regarding this issue on the basis of the international principle of ethnic self-determination as espoused by Wilson's 14 points. One of the supporters of the recognition of the Aramean identity is Gabriel Naddaf, who is a priest to the Greek Orthodox Christians in Israel. He advocated on behalf of his Aramean followers and thanked the Interior Ministry's decision as a "historic move".
In July 2016, an article in the Ha'aretz estimated the number of Israeli Christians eligible to register as Arameans in Israel to be 13,000. In October 2019, the Israeli Christian Aramaic Organization estimated the number of Israeli citizens, who are eligible to obtain Aramean affiliation at 15,000.
According to a 2022 article in Middle Eastern Studies, no less than 2,500 Israelis are known to have registered as Arameans at the Israeli Ministry of Interior, whereas another 2,000 are known to have applied for changing their national denomination from Arab to Aramean. These 4,500 people in total constitute c. 1,5% of Israel's Christian population.