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This reads like a promotion for the Verge. What is the point of all these meaningless quotes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.169.19 ( talk) 02:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Is ApplyPay notable enough to have separate article? It is just reimplementation of MC PayPass, AMX ExpressPay, and Visa payWave over NFC. ` a5b ( talk) 20:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Will apple pay work using an apple watch paired with an iPhone 5? If so, how is the "encryption vault" function of the iPhone 6 accomplished using an iPhone 5? Thanks! -- Lbeaumont ( talk) 21:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
It seems somewhat disingenuous not to put Apple Pay in the context of other contactless NFC mobile payment systems. However mentions of the competition and even what is common with existing NFC payment systems seem to have been all but stripped from the article as if the article were an Apple press release. E.g. there was previously mention of tokenization existing in the NFC specifications, but now it's written like Apple/Visa invented the concept. — Pengo 05:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
The two instances of the phrase "will be" need to be reworked. And CVS and Rite Aid have banned <sic> Appple Pay. WalMart, Kmart, Lowe's, Gap, Target, Kohl's. Dunkin' Donuts are all nixing it too, all per [1]-- Elvey( t• c) 18:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
To prevent an edit war, I have tagged the article as advertising. Main reason for that are the list "List of participating payment systems and banks" and "List of major US retail partners and brands". Both list are completely irrelevant for the subject but act as coat rack to mention as many company names as possible. (And 14 of them link to disambiguation pages) The list are irrelevant, as the participants and apps are highly fluid and - in most cases - have no real influence on the subject itself. The sections are also sourced by primary or related sources. Not by reliable sources. The Banner talk 16:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
The list at this point is short enough to include in the article. There is no reason to remove because the list improves the article at this point. If in the future re list becomes too long then removal may be warranted, but the list of participating stores is notable and has been covered extensively by reliable sources JOJ Hutton 14:57, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
The Banner has twice reverted the following text: "In the United Kingdom, payments using contactless cards are limited to £20 (£30 from September 2015) because they have only one-factor authentication. Although payments using Apple Pay have two-factor authentication and therefore have no transaction limit, they are in practice subject to the same transaction limits until retailers upgrade the software in their terminals to support the latest network contactless specifications. [1]". Please explain which words or phrases in this paragraph comprise advertising or promotional material. If you read comments by UK consumers, you will see a considerable amount of confusion over the £20 limit and who imposes it. Many consumers believe that the limit is imposed by Apple; it is not. Even independent media are misreporting this. Please discuss here before vandalising the page by removing entire paragraphs without explanation. NFH ( talk) 16:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
If the product works differently in some countries then that is relevant information for this article. It is interesting for the comparison to other NFC or electronic payment methods and it is part of the essential feature of the service, namely its use as an everyday payment method. I don’t see this as advertising and all. Also, I think that you both got off on the wrong foot here. It’s not a good style to accuse others of vandalism, but it’s neither good to simply revert everything that doesn’t fit your own view of relevance, without putting it up for discussion first. I suppose we need some more opinions on this.–Totie ( talk) 22:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
The source of the limitation is important because readers should not be misled into believing that Apple Pay has a £20 transaction limit when it does not. Some of the launch retailers have already upgraded their software to impose the £20 limit only on contactless cards and not on Apple Pay; others are lagging behind. The UK media have misreported this as a blanket limit across Apple Pay, which is not true. In fact only specific retailers impose such a limit. NFH ( talk) 07:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The article is progressively turned worse, taking Apple ads as references and then misinterpreting them. "Outside the United States, Apple Pay is accepted at all retailers that accept contactless payment cards. Therefore adoption by retailers is automatic." The first part is flat-out wrong, the second is not even claimed by Apple itself. The rest of the recent additions isn't much better and in particular is not supported by the given references either. Huon ( talk) 18:50, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
NFH, could you please stop with turning this article into a blatant advertisement? Now you are adding a load of company names and brands to the infobox with as poor excuse that the other image was US-centric. But better US-centric than plain advertising. The Banner talk 09:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I’ve cleaned up the adoption section a bit and removed some carrier-specific information. I think we can find a compromise here when we remove the, admittedly, many references to individual adopters and reformat sentences to be more general. That should make the article a bit more concise and we avoid the advertising.–Totie ( talk) 13:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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The blocking of bitcoin wallet apps, "a policy which was only recently changed. Too late for bitcoin. The average user would much prefer using ApplePay. Blocking bitcoin wallets halts the spread of usage while Apple is building their ApplePay strategy, allowing them an unfair advantage", wibki.com/blog.
If well founded we can create a Criticism section with it (and perhaps other facts)? -- Krauss ( talk) 23:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I do not think that listing stores that accept Apple Pay a way of advertising. I imagine sometimes people forget if a store accepts it and a list makes that nice. I do know that it is relevant information and I would be more than happy to keep it relevant like I do with the IFTTT article.
Daylen ( talk) 16:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Why is a photo with less readable brand names less neutral/advertising than a picture with fully readable brand names? The Banner talk 14:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
What is the relevance of the fee that has to be paid for use? The Banner talk 14:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
User:NFH, could you please stop removing the advertising tag? The style, tone and content are clearly advertising. The Banner talk 14:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
What is the relevance of the mentioning of Transport of London? The sentence Although only payment cards issued in the US and UK are supported, the service can be used worldwide where contactless payment cards are accepted. contains in fact the same information and is less spammy. The Banner talk 14:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
The statement in the section above, "the service can be used worldwide where contactless payment cards are accepted", seems to be flat-out wrong. Apple Insider reports that it's unclear when the service will be introduced in "other important markets such as China, Japan, or mainland Europe", some of which do have NFC technology. I can provide explicit references that state it won't work in some of those markets. I have removed claims of universal applicability outside the US before; they keep coming back, supported by sources that don't actually say so. I'm particularly concerned by NFH's attempts to emphasize that Apple Pay is usable in multiple countries when in fact it isn't, at least not as widely as NFH (and Apple) would like to imply. In the current version of the article, the following statements are still incorrect:
I'll remove and/or rewrite those false claims. Huon ( talk) 12:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I feel that this section is convoluted/unstructured. Perhaps we can use a couple of headlines to separate the text into smaller pieces. Particularly I think that we should separate the user side (setup and usage), the privacy/security side and the business model (implementation by banks, limits, liability, etc).–Totie ( talk) 10:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
I added that discover now processes apple pay as of ios 9 and september 2015 and another user is reverting me stating "We don’t mention specific providers for a reason." The article clearly mentions amex mastercard and visa, and not only that the giant main photo mentions royal bank of scotland and natwest, starbucks and others. Discover is the fourth major credit card processing system in america (visa,mastercard,amex and discover), it is no different then listing amex who processes thier own cards. and it deserves to have a mention or the article is incomplete. - Tracer9999 ( talk) 14:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Jhnper8 ( talk) 13:46, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I am wondering why in this section there are added unconfirmed countries? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that should contains only verified information, not assumptions based on the average reliability leaks (for example: anonymous editors add Poland, but the only proof is a forged photo of a card from a polish bank added to ApplePay - source: https://twitter.com/i/moments/921785694829334531). I think that countries which aren't confirmed yet shuld by deleted from the list. MrNeo ( talk) 08:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
There's no evidence that Apple Pay will launch in Czech Republic at all, quite the opposite. This article (Czech) mentions that Czech banks ČSOB, Moneta and AirBank are interested in Apple Pay, but they do not know of any intention from Apple to enter the Czech market. Oberststen ( talk) 14:23, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Tesco in the UK have their own mobile payments app called Tesco Pay+. Because of this, they limit all other mobile payment methods to £30, including Apple Pay. This article doesn't mention merchants setting their own limits. I would put it in myself, but I'm struggling to find a source that isn't just forum posts or my own experiences. Can someone help me out? I think this is worth mentioning in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.98.64.122 ( talk) 12:32, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Do we really need a rejected section? At the end is not like Apple banned that country, it might become available later. Oberststen ( talk) 08:11, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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I think the supported transit agency section should instead just mention the supported transit cards (SmarTrip, Suica, etc.) that Apple Pay offers. Transit as a whole is largely moving towards open loop EMV contactless ticketing. It'd be similar to the loyalty card section, where instead of mentioning every retailer that offers contactless payments, we focus on the special few that are more integrated. Tytygh55 ( talk) 21:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
The article makes no mention of the limits on transaction size using Apple pay. This should be central to the article. Indeed all the Apple pay advertising in the UK suggests that there is no transaction limit or a very large limit. From Apple web site: "And now you can use Apple Pay without the £45 limit at countless locations"; and " Unlike contactless card payments that limit you to a £45 spend, there is no limit for Apple Pay". Other Apple pay adverts state that the limit for Apple Pay is "... up to £10,000" [All three quotes a direct cut and paste from the Apple web site]. So there is no consistency on what the limit is or even if there is one. However following a recent spate of declined transactions, it turns out that there is a limit and it is individually set for every merchant and it is nowhere remotely near £10,000.
I recently had a £1,100 transaction declined following a spate of other declined transaction, and went into the bank to have a row about it. Once I was able to talk to the correct person, that person was able to print out a list of all the declined transactions (five of them). The reason for the declination was in all five cases "Transaction declined. Merchant limit exceeded". One of the declined transactions was for just £199. When I went back to the merchant for the £1,100 declination, he stated that he was unaware that there was any such limit and that he believed it was £10,000. The bank had pointed out that it was up to £10,000 - that is the actual limit was less than £10,000 and in reality a lot less than £10,000 (and clearly some less than £200). The actual limit is set by the card issuer and as such may not be the same for every card that the merchant accepts (I was able to use American Express by Apple pay for one transaction of £540 when the Visa Apple pay was declined).
The Apple website itself, if you find the right page states for the UK, "You may not be able to use Apple Pay for purchases over GBP 45" clearly implying that some merchants have the standard contactless limit of £45. This renders the use of Apple Pay not as advantageous as the advertising makes out. The idea is that you can carry your cards on your iPhone without having to carry the physical cards or touch the card terminal (very important in these COVID-19 times). The reality is that when buying anything, the transaction can be declined as over the Merchant's limit (which he doesn't know about) and with no other means to complete the transaction.
This is all vital information which an article such as this should document. - 81.129.194.183 ( talk) 13:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't understand why the image caption and first sentence of the article mentions that Apple Pay is known as or renamed into Apple Cash. In the article, it mentions that Apple Cash is "a feature that allows the transfer of money from one user to another". Apple Pay is — according to the article — "a mobile payment and digital wallet service by Apple Inc. that allows users to make payments in person, in iOS apps, and on the web using Safari.". It looks like Apple Cash is an extension of Apple Pay; not the same thing. Therefore, the article is incorrect. If someone would like rectify this, feel free to do so, as I refuse to edit major parts of an article. 24.22.108.174 ( talk) 09:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Is there any info on what information does Apple gather on transactions? Apple gets to know when and where (who from whom) a purchase has been made and the sum, but do they know what was purchased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.252.5.66 ( talk) 12:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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This reads like a promotion for the Verge. What is the point of all these meaningless quotes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.169.19 ( talk) 02:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Is ApplyPay notable enough to have separate article? It is just reimplementation of MC PayPass, AMX ExpressPay, and Visa payWave over NFC. ` a5b ( talk) 20:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Will apple pay work using an apple watch paired with an iPhone 5? If so, how is the "encryption vault" function of the iPhone 6 accomplished using an iPhone 5? Thanks! -- Lbeaumont ( talk) 21:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
It seems somewhat disingenuous not to put Apple Pay in the context of other contactless NFC mobile payment systems. However mentions of the competition and even what is common with existing NFC payment systems seem to have been all but stripped from the article as if the article were an Apple press release. E.g. there was previously mention of tokenization existing in the NFC specifications, but now it's written like Apple/Visa invented the concept. — Pengo 05:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
The two instances of the phrase "will be" need to be reworked. And CVS and Rite Aid have banned <sic> Appple Pay. WalMart, Kmart, Lowe's, Gap, Target, Kohl's. Dunkin' Donuts are all nixing it too, all per [1]-- Elvey( t• c) 18:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
To prevent an edit war, I have tagged the article as advertising. Main reason for that are the list "List of participating payment systems and banks" and "List of major US retail partners and brands". Both list are completely irrelevant for the subject but act as coat rack to mention as many company names as possible. (And 14 of them link to disambiguation pages) The list are irrelevant, as the participants and apps are highly fluid and - in most cases - have no real influence on the subject itself. The sections are also sourced by primary or related sources. Not by reliable sources. The Banner talk 16:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
The list at this point is short enough to include in the article. There is no reason to remove because the list improves the article at this point. If in the future re list becomes too long then removal may be warranted, but the list of participating stores is notable and has been covered extensively by reliable sources JOJ Hutton 14:57, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
The Banner has twice reverted the following text: "In the United Kingdom, payments using contactless cards are limited to £20 (£30 from September 2015) because they have only one-factor authentication. Although payments using Apple Pay have two-factor authentication and therefore have no transaction limit, they are in practice subject to the same transaction limits until retailers upgrade the software in their terminals to support the latest network contactless specifications. [1]". Please explain which words or phrases in this paragraph comprise advertising or promotional material. If you read comments by UK consumers, you will see a considerable amount of confusion over the £20 limit and who imposes it. Many consumers believe that the limit is imposed by Apple; it is not. Even independent media are misreporting this. Please discuss here before vandalising the page by removing entire paragraphs without explanation. NFH ( talk) 16:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
If the product works differently in some countries then that is relevant information for this article. It is interesting for the comparison to other NFC or electronic payment methods and it is part of the essential feature of the service, namely its use as an everyday payment method. I don’t see this as advertising and all. Also, I think that you both got off on the wrong foot here. It’s not a good style to accuse others of vandalism, but it’s neither good to simply revert everything that doesn’t fit your own view of relevance, without putting it up for discussion first. I suppose we need some more opinions on this.–Totie ( talk) 22:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
The source of the limitation is important because readers should not be misled into believing that Apple Pay has a £20 transaction limit when it does not. Some of the launch retailers have already upgraded their software to impose the £20 limit only on contactless cards and not on Apple Pay; others are lagging behind. The UK media have misreported this as a blanket limit across Apple Pay, which is not true. In fact only specific retailers impose such a limit. NFH ( talk) 07:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The article is progressively turned worse, taking Apple ads as references and then misinterpreting them. "Outside the United States, Apple Pay is accepted at all retailers that accept contactless payment cards. Therefore adoption by retailers is automatic." The first part is flat-out wrong, the second is not even claimed by Apple itself. The rest of the recent additions isn't much better and in particular is not supported by the given references either. Huon ( talk) 18:50, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
NFH, could you please stop with turning this article into a blatant advertisement? Now you are adding a load of company names and brands to the infobox with as poor excuse that the other image was US-centric. But better US-centric than plain advertising. The Banner talk 09:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I’ve cleaned up the adoption section a bit and removed some carrier-specific information. I think we can find a compromise here when we remove the, admittedly, many references to individual adopters and reformat sentences to be more general. That should make the article a bit more concise and we avoid the advertising.–Totie ( talk) 13:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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The blocking of bitcoin wallet apps, "a policy which was only recently changed. Too late for bitcoin. The average user would much prefer using ApplePay. Blocking bitcoin wallets halts the spread of usage while Apple is building their ApplePay strategy, allowing them an unfair advantage", wibki.com/blog.
If well founded we can create a Criticism section with it (and perhaps other facts)? -- Krauss ( talk) 23:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I do not think that listing stores that accept Apple Pay a way of advertising. I imagine sometimes people forget if a store accepts it and a list makes that nice. I do know that it is relevant information and I would be more than happy to keep it relevant like I do with the IFTTT article.
Daylen ( talk) 16:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Why is a photo with less readable brand names less neutral/advertising than a picture with fully readable brand names? The Banner talk 14:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
What is the relevance of the fee that has to be paid for use? The Banner talk 14:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
User:NFH, could you please stop removing the advertising tag? The style, tone and content are clearly advertising. The Banner talk 14:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
What is the relevance of the mentioning of Transport of London? The sentence Although only payment cards issued in the US and UK are supported, the service can be used worldwide where contactless payment cards are accepted. contains in fact the same information and is less spammy. The Banner talk 14:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
The statement in the section above, "the service can be used worldwide where contactless payment cards are accepted", seems to be flat-out wrong. Apple Insider reports that it's unclear when the service will be introduced in "other important markets such as China, Japan, or mainland Europe", some of which do have NFC technology. I can provide explicit references that state it won't work in some of those markets. I have removed claims of universal applicability outside the US before; they keep coming back, supported by sources that don't actually say so. I'm particularly concerned by NFH's attempts to emphasize that Apple Pay is usable in multiple countries when in fact it isn't, at least not as widely as NFH (and Apple) would like to imply. In the current version of the article, the following statements are still incorrect:
I'll remove and/or rewrite those false claims. Huon ( talk) 12:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I feel that this section is convoluted/unstructured. Perhaps we can use a couple of headlines to separate the text into smaller pieces. Particularly I think that we should separate the user side (setup and usage), the privacy/security side and the business model (implementation by banks, limits, liability, etc).–Totie ( talk) 10:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
I added that discover now processes apple pay as of ios 9 and september 2015 and another user is reverting me stating "We don’t mention specific providers for a reason." The article clearly mentions amex mastercard and visa, and not only that the giant main photo mentions royal bank of scotland and natwest, starbucks and others. Discover is the fourth major credit card processing system in america (visa,mastercard,amex and discover), it is no different then listing amex who processes thier own cards. and it deserves to have a mention or the article is incomplete. - Tracer9999 ( talk) 14:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Jhnper8 ( talk) 13:46, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I am wondering why in this section there are added unconfirmed countries? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that should contains only verified information, not assumptions based on the average reliability leaks (for example: anonymous editors add Poland, but the only proof is a forged photo of a card from a polish bank added to ApplePay - source: https://twitter.com/i/moments/921785694829334531). I think that countries which aren't confirmed yet shuld by deleted from the list. MrNeo ( talk) 08:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
There's no evidence that Apple Pay will launch in Czech Republic at all, quite the opposite. This article (Czech) mentions that Czech banks ČSOB, Moneta and AirBank are interested in Apple Pay, but they do not know of any intention from Apple to enter the Czech market. Oberststen ( talk) 14:23, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Tesco in the UK have their own mobile payments app called Tesco Pay+. Because of this, they limit all other mobile payment methods to £30, including Apple Pay. This article doesn't mention merchants setting their own limits. I would put it in myself, but I'm struggling to find a source that isn't just forum posts or my own experiences. Can someone help me out? I think this is worth mentioning in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.98.64.122 ( talk) 12:32, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Do we really need a rejected section? At the end is not like Apple banned that country, it might become available later. Oberststen ( talk) 08:11, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 16:22, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
I think the supported transit agency section should instead just mention the supported transit cards (SmarTrip, Suica, etc.) that Apple Pay offers. Transit as a whole is largely moving towards open loop EMV contactless ticketing. It'd be similar to the loyalty card section, where instead of mentioning every retailer that offers contactless payments, we focus on the special few that are more integrated. Tytygh55 ( talk) 21:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
The article makes no mention of the limits on transaction size using Apple pay. This should be central to the article. Indeed all the Apple pay advertising in the UK suggests that there is no transaction limit or a very large limit. From Apple web site: "And now you can use Apple Pay without the £45 limit at countless locations"; and " Unlike contactless card payments that limit you to a £45 spend, there is no limit for Apple Pay". Other Apple pay adverts state that the limit for Apple Pay is "... up to £10,000" [All three quotes a direct cut and paste from the Apple web site]. So there is no consistency on what the limit is or even if there is one. However following a recent spate of declined transactions, it turns out that there is a limit and it is individually set for every merchant and it is nowhere remotely near £10,000.
I recently had a £1,100 transaction declined following a spate of other declined transaction, and went into the bank to have a row about it. Once I was able to talk to the correct person, that person was able to print out a list of all the declined transactions (five of them). The reason for the declination was in all five cases "Transaction declined. Merchant limit exceeded". One of the declined transactions was for just £199. When I went back to the merchant for the £1,100 declination, he stated that he was unaware that there was any such limit and that he believed it was £10,000. The bank had pointed out that it was up to £10,000 - that is the actual limit was less than £10,000 and in reality a lot less than £10,000 (and clearly some less than £200). The actual limit is set by the card issuer and as such may not be the same for every card that the merchant accepts (I was able to use American Express by Apple pay for one transaction of £540 when the Visa Apple pay was declined).
The Apple website itself, if you find the right page states for the UK, "You may not be able to use Apple Pay for purchases over GBP 45" clearly implying that some merchants have the standard contactless limit of £45. This renders the use of Apple Pay not as advantageous as the advertising makes out. The idea is that you can carry your cards on your iPhone without having to carry the physical cards or touch the card terminal (very important in these COVID-19 times). The reality is that when buying anything, the transaction can be declined as over the Merchant's limit (which he doesn't know about) and with no other means to complete the transaction.
This is all vital information which an article such as this should document. - 81.129.194.183 ( talk) 13:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't understand why the image caption and first sentence of the article mentions that Apple Pay is known as or renamed into Apple Cash. In the article, it mentions that Apple Cash is "a feature that allows the transfer of money from one user to another". Apple Pay is — according to the article — "a mobile payment and digital wallet service by Apple Inc. that allows users to make payments in person, in iOS apps, and on the web using Safari.". It looks like Apple Cash is an extension of Apple Pay; not the same thing. Therefore, the article is incorrect. If someone would like rectify this, feel free to do so, as I refuse to edit major parts of an article. 24.22.108.174 ( talk) 09:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Is there any info on what information does Apple gather on transactions? Apple gets to know when and where (who from whom) a purchase has been made and the sum, but do they know what was purchased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.252.5.66 ( talk) 12:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC)