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Anastasia is a same character of 1956 film of the same name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:598B:9789:B860:A8FD:7DFC:D42 ( talk) 19:20, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
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I'll pick this one up. Ping me if I don't leave comments within a week. Will try not to screw this up.
Pamzeis (
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Anya (born Anastasia Nikolaevna)— using "born" just feels very in-universe to me, like you're referring to a real person. Can this be replaced to be less in-universe?
Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia, the youngest daughter of Nicholas II, and Anna Anderson— this is kinda ambiguous because it might mean that Anya is based on the youngest daughter of Nicholas, provided the reader likely doesn't know Anastasia is the youngest daughter... if that makes sense
White, the idea that— shouldn't idea be plural?
specifically the combination of spunkiness and sweetness she brings to her characters— this is more of an opinion, but it's stated as a fact
For mechanical reasons, Ryan recorded most of her dialogue isolated from co-star John Cusack, who voices her character's love interest Dimitri, apart from one occasion on which the actors were allowed to record in neighboring sound booths, which Goldman believes benefited their performances.— there are a lot of ideas jammed into this sentence, making it hard to follow. Can it be split up?
hired was unavailable,[28][41] initially only hoping to— Callaway or the other singer?
Paris, France to recover— comma after France
Anya appears in Anastasia on Ice, an— this kinda comes out of nowhere and feels like it's still talking about Anastasia's plot
others can't accept it because she wasn't an— informal contractions
Disney' streaming→ Disney's streaming or Disney streaming
in several merchandise based→ in much merchandise based or in a large amount of merchandise based
puzzles and CD-Rom games— comma after and
Although Anastasia was in fact murdered alongside her family in 1918as it has an unclear reliability per RSP. The claim seems quite contentious because of the rumours. Can a better source be found?
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Article On hold. Ping me when all have been resolved. Pamzeis ( talk) 04:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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A former animator for Fox's then-rival studio Disney, critics believe— I think there's a grammatical error here, as the first bit is tied to critics, which means that it's saying the critics were a former animator for Disney
working for them Disney— I feel like there's something wrong her, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
Bluth and his co-director Gary— missing comma?
from actor John Cusack who— unsure but I think there's a missing comma?
two signature songs " Journey to the Past" and " Once Upon a December"— if there are only two, comma after songs
Anya first appears in the animated film Anastasia (1997). Banished by Nicholas— here we have the inverse of an above comment: it first talks about her first appearance and then in the next sentence, it talks about the plot. And I got a bit confused...
praised by critics for making Anya a charming and likable— WP:VOICE
voice acting for lacking charm— ditto
Fox for disrespecting Anastasia— ditto ditto
I think that's it, in addition to a comment about the sourcing above. Pamzeis ( talk) 11:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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I think that's everything! A Pass from me! Pamzeis ( talk) 05:40, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Let’s be honest, she deserves it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Disney needs to add her now! They made merchandise for her so why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
There appears to be a back-and-forth regarding the infobox image. @ Changedforbetter: is the primary contributor to the article and has used File:Anya Anastasia.jpeg (A) for the infobox, but @ KieranCallahan72: has repeatedly introduced File:Grand Duchess Anya Anastasia.jpeg (B) despite repeated edits to revert back to the original image. In one of my edit summaries, I recommended that the talk page should be used to get consensus either way, but that was ignored so I am opening one myself.
To be completely honest, I am not a huge fan of either. I think the first one is too much of a close-up on the character, while I think the second just looks odd. Unfortunately, there does not appear to an official promotional image of the character as that would have been the ideal solution in this scenario. I would have personally gone with some sort of variation on the image used in this article as that scene, and frame in particular, seems to get a lot of focus in promotional materials, but I do get the rationale for wanting to include her in the dress.
Either way, I wanted to open this to get feedback to hopefully settle on an infobox image and avoid the back-and-forth editing that has been going on lately. Aoba47 ( talk) 04:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
I changed the image to the dress because that dress is arguably the best design for the character. KieranCallahan72 ( talk) 16:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
She deserves to be in the lineup and needs to have the [[Category:Disney Princess characters]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs)
This Talk is for people to leave the subject once and for all, and understand that the character is NOT going to be a
Disney Princess, and avoid information that confuses Wikipedia readers (in this case, confusion regarding belonging to
The Walt Disney Company and belonging to the Disney brand, which are different things). Not even Princess Atta from
A Bug's Life or Princess Kida from
Atlantis: The Lost Empire are members simply because they are cartoon princesses that, unlike Anya/Anastasia, are from productions under the Disney label. Who does not understand the latter, I explain it below...
The members of the Disney Princess franchise receive that name because they are from productions under the Disney label. That is to say, productions distributed with the name "Disney" on the title, because they are productions of
Walt Disney Pictures. It is not the same to be from "Disney", mentioning said label (which includes Walt Disney Pictures,
Disney Channel Originals, and any other production of a studio with the name "Disney"), than to belong to "Disney", mentioning
The Walt Disney Company in its entirety. Which has different labels/brands, including "Disney", "
Pixar", "
Marvel", and since the company acquired
20th Century Studios (Anastasia’s studio) and
Searchlight Pictures, the productions of both studios also bearing their labels on their titles since said acquisition.
In short, The Walt Disney Company has "Disney" above its name, but there is a difference between it and the "Disney" brand. With the different divisions of the company having their different brands under their respective labels.
BrookTheHumming (
talk) 23:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Anya (Anastasia) has been listed as one of the
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Anastasia is a same character of 1956 film of the same name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:598B:9789:B860:A8FD:7DFC:D42 ( talk) 19:20, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Pamzeis ( talk · contribs) 10:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
I'll pick this one up. Ping me if I don't leave comments within a week. Will try not to screw this up.
Pamzeis (
talk) 10:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Anya (born Anastasia Nikolaevna)— using "born" just feels very in-universe to me, like you're referring to a real person. Can this be replaced to be less in-universe?
Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia, the youngest daughter of Nicholas II, and Anna Anderson— this is kinda ambiguous because it might mean that Anya is based on the youngest daughter of Nicholas, provided the reader likely doesn't know Anastasia is the youngest daughter... if that makes sense
White, the idea that— shouldn't idea be plural?
specifically the combination of spunkiness and sweetness she brings to her characters— this is more of an opinion, but it's stated as a fact
For mechanical reasons, Ryan recorded most of her dialogue isolated from co-star John Cusack, who voices her character's love interest Dimitri, apart from one occasion on which the actors were allowed to record in neighboring sound booths, which Goldman believes benefited their performances.— there are a lot of ideas jammed into this sentence, making it hard to follow. Can it be split up?
hired was unavailable,[28][41] initially only hoping to— Callaway or the other singer?
Paris, France to recover— comma after France
Anya appears in Anastasia on Ice, an— this kinda comes out of nowhere and feels like it's still talking about Anastasia's plot
others can't accept it because she wasn't an— informal contractions
Disney' streaming→ Disney's streaming or Disney streaming
in several merchandise based→ in much merchandise based or in a large amount of merchandise based
puzzles and CD-Rom games— comma after and
Although Anastasia was in fact murdered alongside her family in 1918as it has an unclear reliability per RSP. The claim seems quite contentious because of the rumours. Can a better source be found?
Spot checks all checked out
Article On hold. Ping me when all have been resolved. Pamzeis ( talk) 04:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Good Article review progress box
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A former animator for Fox's then-rival studio Disney, critics believe— I think there's a grammatical error here, as the first bit is tied to critics, which means that it's saying the critics were a former animator for Disney
working for them Disney— I feel like there's something wrong her, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
Bluth and his co-director Gary— missing comma?
from actor John Cusack who— unsure but I think there's a missing comma?
two signature songs " Journey to the Past" and " Once Upon a December"— if there are only two, comma after songs
Anya first appears in the animated film Anastasia (1997). Banished by Nicholas— here we have the inverse of an above comment: it first talks about her first appearance and then in the next sentence, it talks about the plot. And I got a bit confused...
praised by critics for making Anya a charming and likable— WP:VOICE
voice acting for lacking charm— ditto
Fox for disrespecting Anastasia— ditto ditto
I think that's it, in addition to a comment about the sourcing above. Pamzeis ( talk) 11:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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I think that's everything! A Pass from me! Pamzeis ( talk) 05:40, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Let’s be honest, she deserves it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Disney needs to add her now! They made merchandise for her so why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
There appears to be a back-and-forth regarding the infobox image. @ Changedforbetter: is the primary contributor to the article and has used File:Anya Anastasia.jpeg (A) for the infobox, but @ KieranCallahan72: has repeatedly introduced File:Grand Duchess Anya Anastasia.jpeg (B) despite repeated edits to revert back to the original image. In one of my edit summaries, I recommended that the talk page should be used to get consensus either way, but that was ignored so I am opening one myself.
To be completely honest, I am not a huge fan of either. I think the first one is too much of a close-up on the character, while I think the second just looks odd. Unfortunately, there does not appear to an official promotional image of the character as that would have been the ideal solution in this scenario. I would have personally gone with some sort of variation on the image used in this article as that scene, and frame in particular, seems to get a lot of focus in promotional materials, but I do get the rationale for wanting to include her in the dress.
Either way, I wanted to open this to get feedback to hopefully settle on an infobox image and avoid the back-and-forth editing that has been going on lately. Aoba47 ( talk) 04:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
I changed the image to the dress because that dress is arguably the best design for the character. KieranCallahan72 ( talk) 16:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
She deserves to be in the lineup and needs to have the [[Category:Disney Princess characters]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranCallahan72 ( talk • contribs)
This Talk is for people to leave the subject once and for all, and understand that the character is NOT going to be a
Disney Princess, and avoid information that confuses Wikipedia readers (in this case, confusion regarding belonging to
The Walt Disney Company and belonging to the Disney brand, which are different things). Not even Princess Atta from
A Bug's Life or Princess Kida from
Atlantis: The Lost Empire are members simply because they are cartoon princesses that, unlike Anya/Anastasia, are from productions under the Disney label. Who does not understand the latter, I explain it below...
The members of the Disney Princess franchise receive that name because they are from productions under the Disney label. That is to say, productions distributed with the name "Disney" on the title, because they are productions of
Walt Disney Pictures. It is not the same to be from "Disney", mentioning said label (which includes Walt Disney Pictures,
Disney Channel Originals, and any other production of a studio with the name "Disney"), than to belong to "Disney", mentioning
The Walt Disney Company in its entirety. Which has different labels/brands, including "Disney", "
Pixar", "
Marvel", and since the company acquired
20th Century Studios (Anastasia’s studio) and
Searchlight Pictures, the productions of both studios also bearing their labels on their titles since said acquisition.
In short, The Walt Disney Company has "Disney" above its name, but there is a difference between it and the "Disney" brand. With the different divisions of the company having their different brands under their respective labels.
BrookTheHumming (
talk) 23:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)