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I've lost my previous Wikipedia account (or maybe it was on a different language, don't remember) and so I've created this account, but it is too new to edit this page.
Could someone please mention the Etymological fallacy page somewhere in the following paragraph (just before the first heading):
Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who incorrectly assert that it refers to racist hatred directed at "Semitic people" in spite of the fact that this grouping is an obsolete historical race concept.
I intended to write it as below, wouldn't stress on that exact wording though.
...those who incorrectly assert (as an etymological fallacy) that it refers to racist hatred...
Edit: this is even mentioned on Etymological fallacy itself.
RatherQueerDebator ( talk) 10:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
If semites include arabs, why is Wikipedia still defining it as discriminations towards only jews. This is misinformation and is in line with the current propoganda war that is ongoing in 2023/2024 and even previous to this time.
Arabs feel the discrimination and racism towards them when it comes to the word antisemetic or antisemitism.
After reading the etymology of the word, it further supports the claim and provides further evidence that the defintion antisemtisim should be changed in wikipedia to the discrimination against any group of people of semitic descent. Abdlrdt ( talk) 05:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Carlyle uses the word in his 1850 'Life of Sterling':
It was not as a ghastly phantasm, choked in Thirty-nine-article controversies, or miserable Semitic, Anti-Semitic street-riots,—in scepticisms, agonized self-seekings, that this man appeared in life; nor as such, if the world still wishes to look at him should you suffer the world's memory of him now to be.
This English example long predates Wilhelm Marr's supposed coining of the term. Wouldn't this warrant a mention in the article under the discussion of the history of the word's usage? 206.85.204.137 ( talk) 16:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Mr Disraeli cannot stand up in the Commons and accuse us of anti-semitic propensities and a desire to persecute his people." [Cambridge Independent Press, Feb 18, 1854, a commentary on an Act before Parliament]. Zero talk 04:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
With reference to your newspaper example, is there any way to look it up online? What is the name of the newspaper? Where exactly did you find it? 206.85.204.137 ( talk) 15:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
With such a large article I was surprised there were only two paragraphs on "causes". Maybe this section should be expanded. 2604:3D08:137F:6100:7845:A17:B6DA:430 ( talk) 14:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Metaphysical Antisemitism (or Metaphysical antisemitism)? Should wikipedia say anything about that?--(I read in passing today, about " Biological-Metaphysical Antisemitism", in print, today.)--Should one expect to find any mention of those, on wikipedia? Thank you. 2001:2020:305:A2BF:68C5:9632:4821:1B06 ( talk) 10:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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I've lost my previous Wikipedia account (or maybe it was on a different language, don't remember) and so I've created this account, but it is too new to edit this page.
Could someone please mention the Etymological fallacy page somewhere in the following paragraph (just before the first heading):
Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who incorrectly assert that it refers to racist hatred directed at "Semitic people" in spite of the fact that this grouping is an obsolete historical race concept.
I intended to write it as below, wouldn't stress on that exact wording though.
...those who incorrectly assert (as an etymological fallacy) that it refers to racist hatred...
Edit: this is even mentioned on Etymological fallacy itself.
RatherQueerDebator ( talk) 10:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
If semites include arabs, why is Wikipedia still defining it as discriminations towards only jews. This is misinformation and is in line with the current propoganda war that is ongoing in 2023/2024 and even previous to this time.
Arabs feel the discrimination and racism towards them when it comes to the word antisemetic or antisemitism.
After reading the etymology of the word, it further supports the claim and provides further evidence that the defintion antisemtisim should be changed in wikipedia to the discrimination against any group of people of semitic descent. Abdlrdt ( talk) 05:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Carlyle uses the word in his 1850 'Life of Sterling':
It was not as a ghastly phantasm, choked in Thirty-nine-article controversies, or miserable Semitic, Anti-Semitic street-riots,—in scepticisms, agonized self-seekings, that this man appeared in life; nor as such, if the world still wishes to look at him should you suffer the world's memory of him now to be.
This English example long predates Wilhelm Marr's supposed coining of the term. Wouldn't this warrant a mention in the article under the discussion of the history of the word's usage? 206.85.204.137 ( talk) 16:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Mr Disraeli cannot stand up in the Commons and accuse us of anti-semitic propensities and a desire to persecute his people." [Cambridge Independent Press, Feb 18, 1854, a commentary on an Act before Parliament]. Zero talk 04:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
With reference to your newspaper example, is there any way to look it up online? What is the name of the newspaper? Where exactly did you find it? 206.85.204.137 ( talk) 15:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
With such a large article I was surprised there were only two paragraphs on "causes". Maybe this section should be expanded. 2604:3D08:137F:6100:7845:A17:B6DA:430 ( talk) 14:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Metaphysical Antisemitism (or Metaphysical antisemitism)? Should wikipedia say anything about that?--(I read in passing today, about " Biological-Metaphysical Antisemitism", in print, today.)--Should one expect to find any mention of those, on wikipedia? Thank you. 2001:2020:305:A2BF:68C5:9632:4821:1B06 ( talk) 10:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)