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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 05:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to start an honest discussion on the use of "Negrophobia" in politics on White Americans to influence their vote. I'd like to keep the discussion respectful, insightful and informative. Please view the link below and provide feedback.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit
Magweed ( talk) 06:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed
This page is slated for deletion due too only 1 reference.. I would like to add a chain from the last dicussion regarding deletion of Negrophobia from Wikipedia.. Liasted below is a a comment left by badlydrawnjeff during the last attempt to remove Negrophobia from wikipedia. Please see the references below.
Strong keep. The word has a place in an older book by the same name, published by St. Martin's Press and written by noted author and journalist Darius James, who writes books and articles about Blaxploitation. A more academic book is Negrophobia and Reasonable Racism: The Hidden Costs of Being Black in America, a more academic title through the New York University press, and Negrophobia: A Race Riot in 1906, by Mark Bauerlein with Encounter Press. The word is recognized by the American Heritage Dictionary as well. Combine these with the sources already listed in the article, and it becomes evidence that this is absolutely a necessary article. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Do not delete this page from Wikipedia this is very educational, it provides knowledge and insight to the issues facing America and race. A fear of black people is a phobia that exists, for history on this issue please see the link I've pasted below.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit
Magweed ( talk) 06:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed
The problem is that "Negrophobia" is not specific to the US and is prevalent among many nations. It is even rampant on Wikipedia in such sites as the "Moors", where no black people of so called "Negroid" characteristics are displayed or mentioned in the article supposedly about a term that has been documented as having been used specifically for black and near black peoples of all religions for over 1400 years in Europe. "Negrophobia" is equally prevalent among Middle Easterns and North Africans perhaps even to a great extent then in America.
Why start just a discussion - why not start your page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.120.70 ( talk) 20:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
this word is not the same thing as anti-blackness, why was i redirected to here from there? please keep those pages separate: the article for anti-blackness it's own thing. thank you!
As to earlier, I checked the Moors page and it now does have images of "negroid" Moors. I think this page needs a history section to describe its impact on society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangokeylime ( talk • contribs) 00:38, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Peer Review This article is organized quite well and touches on different aspects which is great. It includes the origins of the term, common associations and false interpretations as well. It seems that all the necessary ground has been covered here. The majority, if not all, of the sources are books which seem to be legitimately published. This shows the proper research was conducted and it definitely reflects in the content and quality of the page. One more thing, the overview was great because it acknowledged the different contexts the term may be used in, so this is great as well. Dcauley5 ( talk) 02:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Plan for editing: Hi! I am planning on editing the lead section by clarifying the unclear “influencing” mechanism in the second sentence of the lead section as well as by adding one more sentence with a summary of all major sections of the article.
In line with user Mangokeylime's comments, I plan on researching the history and historical impacts of the term and practises of negrophobia in order to constitute such a new section in the article. As a “Negrophobia and Identity” subpart to this new historical section, I also intend to further develop, the relevance and content of Frantz Fanon’s reflexion on negrophobia and link it to other works such as Morrison’s The Bluest Eye (1970).
I further intend to restructure the article by developing and adding all debates and discussion on the definitions of negrophobia, which are currently found under “overview”, as subparts of a new section called “Etymology and definitions” which would also include the current “Lexicology” section.
Finally, I am considering editing the references section of the article, by applying the wikipedia referencing style rule of alphabetical order and other required standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarsdeMat ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hi! A section on the history and historical implications of Negrophobia would be well welcomed indeed, as it seems to be an important subject that is missing in this article. Frantz Fanon's works are surely very relevant and can help improve this article. "Les damnés de la terre" is a very influential work of Fanon and could be of interest to you, even though you may probably already know it. Maybe you could also create a section (or include it in the history of the term) on major historical events linked with Negrophobia? It could bring depth and perspective to this concept and its Wikipedia page. Your suggestions seem very good to me and would definitely improve the article. JeanJacquesMoldu ( talk) 14:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
These terms ("negrophobia," "anti-black" and "anti-blackness") are not the same. Generally this article would benefit from more context for its historical emergence and/or current use (the Rachel Maddow clip for instance appears to use the term sarcastically). The redirect from "anti-black" and "anti-blackness" will likely confuse and offend contemporary users looking for information on the topic of "anti-blackness." Until an article is drafted for "anti-blackness," a redirect to this Category:Anti-black racism would be more appropriate. Regardless, I am removing the current re-direct to this article. -- Vaparedes ( talk) 08:41, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Apparently negrophobia is a mental disorder, not a political attitude. http://empirenews.net/american-medical-association-to-recognize-negrophobia-as-legitimate-mental-illness/ -- 105.4.6.142 ( talk) 20:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
The term "negro" in the United States is considered highly offensive today and anti-Black racism is much more widely used. SnappyDragonPennyroyal ( talk) 09:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. There's certainly consensus that no article should exist at this title, but it looks like the move should be from Afrophobia to Anti-black sentiment, with Negrophobia then being merged into that. Closing this discussion so that a move request can be started at Afrophobia. ( closed by non-admin page mover) asilvering ( talk) 06:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Negrophobia →
Anti-black sentiment – This is a potentially contentious move, so I want to have a discourse first.
Move per norm
Anti-x sentminent in
Anti-black sentiment in the United States
Anti-Korean sentiment
Anti-German sentiment
Anti-Mexican sentiment
Anti-Brazilian sentiment
Anti-British sentiment
Anti-Asian sentiment
Anti-Christian sentiment
And the list goes on.
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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move. However, other options also received support, including moving Anti-black racism and merging to Racism against African Americans; these can be explored at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 02:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Negrophobia →
Anti-Black sentiment – The term Negrophobia implies an apologetic stance towards racism, the reflexive reaction in Negrophobia can be talked about in a section in the article. The bulk of this article is on racism as a result of complex thought/constructivism. Anti-Black sentiment works best imo as this is about the black phenotype and covers sentiment as well as racist or discriminatory acts. This move would be inline with:
Anti-black sentiment in the United States
Anti-Korean sentiment
Anti-German sentiment
Anti-Mexican sentiment
Anti-Brazilian sentiment
Anti-British sentiment
Anti-Asian sentiment
Anti-Christian sentiment
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Are people okay with how I’ve described this page?
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 05:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to start an honest discussion on the use of "Negrophobia" in politics on White Americans to influence their vote. I'd like to keep the discussion respectful, insightful and informative. Please view the link below and provide feedback.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit
Magweed ( talk) 06:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed
This page is slated for deletion due too only 1 reference.. I would like to add a chain from the last dicussion regarding deletion of Negrophobia from Wikipedia.. Liasted below is a a comment left by badlydrawnjeff during the last attempt to remove Negrophobia from wikipedia. Please see the references below.
Strong keep. The word has a place in an older book by the same name, published by St. Martin's Press and written by noted author and journalist Darius James, who writes books and articles about Blaxploitation. A more academic book is Negrophobia and Reasonable Racism: The Hidden Costs of Being Black in America, a more academic title through the New York University press, and Negrophobia: A Race Riot in 1906, by Mark Bauerlein with Encounter Press. The word is recognized by the American Heritage Dictionary as well. Combine these with the sources already listed in the article, and it becomes evidence that this is absolutely a necessary article. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Do not delete this page from Wikipedia this is very educational, it provides knowledge and insight to the issues facing America and race. A fear of black people is a phobia that exists, for history on this issue please see the link I've pasted below.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4725628-scaring-white-people-for-fun-and-profit
Magweed ( talk) 06:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Magweed
The problem is that "Negrophobia" is not specific to the US and is prevalent among many nations. It is even rampant on Wikipedia in such sites as the "Moors", where no black people of so called "Negroid" characteristics are displayed or mentioned in the article supposedly about a term that has been documented as having been used specifically for black and near black peoples of all religions for over 1400 years in Europe. "Negrophobia" is equally prevalent among Middle Easterns and North Africans perhaps even to a great extent then in America.
Why start just a discussion - why not start your page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.120.70 ( talk) 20:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
this word is not the same thing as anti-blackness, why was i redirected to here from there? please keep those pages separate: the article for anti-blackness it's own thing. thank you!
As to earlier, I checked the Moors page and it now does have images of "negroid" Moors. I think this page needs a history section to describe its impact on society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangokeylime ( talk • contribs) 00:38, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Peer Review This article is organized quite well and touches on different aspects which is great. It includes the origins of the term, common associations and false interpretations as well. It seems that all the necessary ground has been covered here. The majority, if not all, of the sources are books which seem to be legitimately published. This shows the proper research was conducted and it definitely reflects in the content and quality of the page. One more thing, the overview was great because it acknowledged the different contexts the term may be used in, so this is great as well. Dcauley5 ( talk) 02:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Plan for editing: Hi! I am planning on editing the lead section by clarifying the unclear “influencing” mechanism in the second sentence of the lead section as well as by adding one more sentence with a summary of all major sections of the article.
In line with user Mangokeylime's comments, I plan on researching the history and historical impacts of the term and practises of negrophobia in order to constitute such a new section in the article. As a “Negrophobia and Identity” subpart to this new historical section, I also intend to further develop, the relevance and content of Frantz Fanon’s reflexion on negrophobia and link it to other works such as Morrison’s The Bluest Eye (1970).
I further intend to restructure the article by developing and adding all debates and discussion on the definitions of negrophobia, which are currently found under “overview”, as subparts of a new section called “Etymology and definitions” which would also include the current “Lexicology” section.
Finally, I am considering editing the references section of the article, by applying the wikipedia referencing style rule of alphabetical order and other required standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarsdeMat ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
(CP peer review)
Hi! A section on the history and historical implications of Negrophobia would be well welcomed indeed, as it seems to be an important subject that is missing in this article. Frantz Fanon's works are surely very relevant and can help improve this article. "Les damnés de la terre" is a very influential work of Fanon and could be of interest to you, even though you may probably already know it. Maybe you could also create a section (or include it in the history of the term) on major historical events linked with Negrophobia? It could bring depth and perspective to this concept and its Wikipedia page. Your suggestions seem very good to me and would definitely improve the article. JeanJacquesMoldu ( talk) 14:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
These terms ("negrophobia," "anti-black" and "anti-blackness") are not the same. Generally this article would benefit from more context for its historical emergence and/or current use (the Rachel Maddow clip for instance appears to use the term sarcastically). The redirect from "anti-black" and "anti-blackness" will likely confuse and offend contemporary users looking for information on the topic of "anti-blackness." Until an article is drafted for "anti-blackness," a redirect to this Category:Anti-black racism would be more appropriate. Regardless, I am removing the current re-direct to this article. -- Vaparedes ( talk) 08:41, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Apparently negrophobia is a mental disorder, not a political attitude. http://empirenews.net/american-medical-association-to-recognize-negrophobia-as-legitimate-mental-illness/ -- 105.4.6.142 ( talk) 20:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
The term "negro" in the United States is considered highly offensive today and anti-Black racism is much more widely used. SnappyDragonPennyroyal ( talk) 09:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. There's certainly consensus that no article should exist at this title, but it looks like the move should be from Afrophobia to Anti-black sentiment, with Negrophobia then being merged into that. Closing this discussion so that a move request can be started at Afrophobia. ( closed by non-admin page mover) asilvering ( talk) 06:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Negrophobia →
Anti-black sentiment – This is a potentially contentious move, so I want to have a discourse first.
Move per norm
Anti-x sentminent in
Anti-black sentiment in the United States
Anti-Korean sentiment
Anti-German sentiment
Anti-Mexican sentiment
Anti-Brazilian sentiment
Anti-British sentiment
Anti-Asian sentiment
Anti-Christian sentiment
And the list goes on.
DarmaniLink (
talk)
00:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move. However, other options also received support, including moving Anti-black racism and merging to Racism against African Americans; these can be explored at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 02:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Negrophobia →
Anti-Black sentiment – The term Negrophobia implies an apologetic stance towards racism, the reflexive reaction in Negrophobia can be talked about in a section in the article. The bulk of this article is on racism as a result of complex thought/constructivism. Anti-Black sentiment works best imo as this is about the black phenotype and covers sentiment as well as racist or discriminatory acts. This move would be inline with:
Anti-black sentiment in the United States
Anti-Korean sentiment
Anti-German sentiment
Anti-Mexican sentiment
Anti-Brazilian sentiment
Anti-British sentiment
Anti-Asian sentiment
Anti-Christian sentiment
Alexanderkowal (
talk) 07:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Alexanderkowal (
talk)
07:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Are people okay with how I’ve described this page?
Alexanderkowal ( talk) 10:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
It has been proposed in this section that
Anti-Black sentiment be
renamed and moved to
Anti-Black racism. A bot will list this discussion on requested moves' current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{
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Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal ( talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC)