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I have requested the help from a few others singapore based contributors who have contributed to the online media space in Singapore. I have written on the talk page of User:S9929527I, User:LMX97, User:Deoma12, User:Rqiang84 and User:LeeChoonYeeLcy as they are regular contributors to many other local singapore media pages. Iz55 ( talk) 01:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
You had mentioned that the article doesn't mention about Ed Cash's Grammy but having a Grammy winning producer helps the audience understand the producer. For example, i noticed that you like NCIS (Which i love). Tony Dinozzo shared his first kiss with academy mosssad agent ziva david. This would illuminate the audience's understanding of Ziva, but also of Tony. Please correct me if i am wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iz55 ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Subject is an internet celebrity in Singapore, with newspaper articles referenced in the main article. She also has viral videos that have more than 2 million views, which is almost everyone in a small country like singapore haha. Since she also directs the videos she acts in, i wanted to share on her professional life as a filmmaker before being an actress. I hope to add this content to help improve her actress and film maker section by putting in the following:
Lee was involved with film creation of two short films Graduation and Keep Mum. The first film Graduation won the Best Production Design at the Singapore Short Film Awards and *SCAPE's National Youth Film Awards in 2015, [1] and was the Singapore finalist at Hong Kong International Mobile Film Awards. Her second film Keep Mum was nominee of Best Direction in the National Youth Film Awards 2015 and was featured at Cana Film Festival in 2016. [2] Lee expressed that these short films as her way of commenting on social issues facing her generation [3]
Lee was discovered by SGAG after they came across her blog, [4] in which she illustrates stories from her daily life in an endearing humorous style, [5] which they would later published one of her articles regarding the Carousell onto their social platforms. Upon their request, Lee joined SGAG in January 2016 and helped to establish its video team, where she is fully involved with the productions of the SGAG videos since then, in which she often appears under the personas as a news presenter "Suezanna Chole Tan" and more often as "Sue Ann" alongside with other actors. [6]
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A reviewer felt that this edit would not improve the article. |
This info box is pretty similar to the current info box, but a photo has been added, and some minor changes have been put in. This info box was primarily helped to be done up by another editor rqiang84
Annette Lee | |
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File:Annette Lee at Canvas Club, Boat Quay.jpg | |
Born | Annette Rochelle Lee 10 July 1992 |
Nationality | Singaporean |
Alma mater |
Cedar Girls' Secondary School Saint Andrew's Junior College Nanyang Technological University Hochschule der Medien |
Occupation(s) | Actress, Singer-Songwriter, Scriptwriter, Director, YouTube personality |
Years active | 2015–present |
Agent | SGAG (Lead Writer/Director) (2016–present) |
Musical career | |
Also known as | Sue Ann Suezanna Chole Tan |
Genres | Electrofolk, Pop |
Instrument(s) | Piano, Guitar, Harmonica |
Website | ANNETTE on Facebook |
Iz55 ( talk) 16:12, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
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I would like to propose that subject is notable as it surpasses the guidelines on the following points:
1. Subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Just to name a few:
She had been featured in a full length interview in Singapore's national newspaper
the straits times, which is the only newspaper in singapore. That article is listed as on of the reference and for convenience it is referenced here too
[1].
She also has featured in a full length interview with
Mediacorp's online website called Toggle, and appears in a full length feature by them. That interview is also referenced here
[2].
She also furthermore has appeared in other full length magazine features such as
Time Out (magazine), which is the british magazine group and publishes 108 cities around the world. That article is here
[3].
She also appears in
Cleo (magazine)'s magazine as a full length feature here
[4]
2. Subject also has attracted attention over a sufficiently significant period of time
The above articles have been published over a period of time.
the straits times - 27/10/17,
Time Out (magazine) - 14/09/17,
Mediacorp's toggle article - 02/10/17,
Cleo (magazine) - 1/12/17
3. Subject is also an internet celebrity with weekly videos, some of which have more than 1.5 to 2.5 million views. For a small country like singapore, 2million viewers is almost every person under the age of 30. Some of her videos are referenced here
[5]
[6]
4. She is the main star of
SGAG, which has more than 800k followers on Facebook, and 450k on instagram.
5. I have made multiple edits (in an effort to address template maintanence issues), and no new content was added. Please take some time to review my edit. Thank you!
Iz55 (
talk)
02:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
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For those reasons the edit request is declined. . spintendo⋅⋅) 04:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Example No.#1
"Lee was discovered by SGAG after they came across her blog,[4] in which she illustrates stories from her daily life in an endearing humorous style,[5] which they would later published sic one of her articles regarding the Carousell onto their social platforms."
Example No.#2"Lee joined SGAG in January 2016 and helped to establish its video team, where she is fully involved with the productions of the SGAG videos since then, sic in which she often appears under the personas as sic a news presenter.."
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The reviewer would like to request the editor with a COI attempt to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area first. |
The editor who placed the templates, in this case Chrissymad, should be consulted first about the recent changes you've made, in order to garner their opinion on the state of the article and whether or not they feel the tags can now be removed. . spintendo⋅⋅) 12:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I have received feedback from the teahouse that "grown to become asia's most recognisable characters" may sound like a press release. In an effort to address the maintanece tag issues, i propose to revise that sentence:
Annette Rochelle Lee (born 10 July 1992), is a Singaporean actress, singer-songwriter, scriptwriter, director and YouTube personality. She is best known for her work on the media platform SGAG, where she stars in comedic videos based on the personas of "Sue Ann" and "Suezanna Chole Tan". [1] [2]. Lee is also a singer-songwriter and she released her debut electro-folk EP in 2017. [1]
References
I agree with David notMD, that the subject's notability is established. Seeing the changes that David made, perhaps we could impose on Chrissymad one more time to have a look and see how the page looks and if the tags can be reconsidered. Thank you to everyone for their help on this, it's much appreciated. . spintendo⋅⋅) 06:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
In light of David notMD and my opinions that the subject has met notability requirements, I've gone ahead and removed that template. I can't speak to the other remaining two, as the decision to place them is a bit more nuanced than the cut and dry requirements for notability, so IMO it would still be best to have the input of Chrissymad. . spintendo⋅⋅) 05:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The reviewer would like to request the editor with a COI attempt to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area first. |
Since the tags had been placed 3 months ago and also reviewed 2 months ago, many more people have since worked on the page and shared their input. Hence, I would like to propose that the remaining tags be removed.
Requesting @ Chrissymad: input on this. My concerns are listed below:
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I have requested the help from a few others singapore based contributors who have contributed to the online media space in Singapore. I have written on the talk page of User:S9929527I, User:LMX97, User:Deoma12, User:Rqiang84 and User:LeeChoonYeeLcy as they are regular contributors to many other local singapore media pages. Iz55 ( talk) 01:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
You had mentioned that the article doesn't mention about Ed Cash's Grammy but having a Grammy winning producer helps the audience understand the producer. For example, i noticed that you like NCIS (Which i love). Tony Dinozzo shared his first kiss with academy mosssad agent ziva david. This would illuminate the audience's understanding of Ziva, but also of Tony. Please correct me if i am wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iz55 ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Subject is an internet celebrity in Singapore, with newspaper articles referenced in the main article. She also has viral videos that have more than 2 million views, which is almost everyone in a small country like singapore haha. Since she also directs the videos she acts in, i wanted to share on her professional life as a filmmaker before being an actress. I hope to add this content to help improve her actress and film maker section by putting in the following:
Lee was involved with film creation of two short films Graduation and Keep Mum. The first film Graduation won the Best Production Design at the Singapore Short Film Awards and *SCAPE's National Youth Film Awards in 2015, [1] and was the Singapore finalist at Hong Kong International Mobile Film Awards. Her second film Keep Mum was nominee of Best Direction in the National Youth Film Awards 2015 and was featured at Cana Film Festival in 2016. [2] Lee expressed that these short films as her way of commenting on social issues facing her generation [3]
Lee was discovered by SGAG after they came across her blog, [4] in which she illustrates stories from her daily life in an endearing humorous style, [5] which they would later published one of her articles regarding the Carousell onto their social platforms. Upon their request, Lee joined SGAG in January 2016 and helped to establish its video team, where she is fully involved with the productions of the SGAG videos since then, in which she often appears under the personas as a news presenter "Suezanna Chole Tan" and more often as "Sue Ann" alongside with other actors. [6]
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A reviewer felt that this edit would not improve the article. |
This info box is pretty similar to the current info box, but a photo has been added, and some minor changes have been put in. This info box was primarily helped to be done up by another editor rqiang84
Annette Lee | |
---|---|
File:Annette Lee at Canvas Club, Boat Quay.jpg | |
Born | Annette Rochelle Lee 10 July 1992 |
Nationality | Singaporean |
Alma mater |
Cedar Girls' Secondary School Saint Andrew's Junior College Nanyang Technological University Hochschule der Medien |
Occupation(s) | Actress, Singer-Songwriter, Scriptwriter, Director, YouTube personality |
Years active | 2015–present |
Agent | SGAG (Lead Writer/Director) (2016–present) |
Musical career | |
Also known as | Sue Ann Suezanna Chole Tan |
Genres | Electrofolk, Pop |
Instrument(s) | Piano, Guitar, Harmonica |
Website | ANNETTE on Facebook |
Iz55 ( talk) 16:12, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
References
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A reviewer felt that this edit would not improve the article. |
I would like to propose that subject is notable as it surpasses the guidelines on the following points:
1. Subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Just to name a few:
She had been featured in a full length interview in Singapore's national newspaper
the straits times, which is the only newspaper in singapore. That article is listed as on of the reference and for convenience it is referenced here too
[1].
She also has featured in a full length interview with
Mediacorp's online website called Toggle, and appears in a full length feature by them. That interview is also referenced here
[2].
She also furthermore has appeared in other full length magazine features such as
Time Out (magazine), which is the british magazine group and publishes 108 cities around the world. That article is here
[3].
She also appears in
Cleo (magazine)'s magazine as a full length feature here
[4]
2. Subject also has attracted attention over a sufficiently significant period of time
The above articles have been published over a period of time.
the straits times - 27/10/17,
Time Out (magazine) - 14/09/17,
Mediacorp's toggle article - 02/10/17,
Cleo (magazine) - 1/12/17
3. Subject is also an internet celebrity with weekly videos, some of which have more than 1.5 to 2.5 million views. For a small country like singapore, 2million viewers is almost every person under the age of 30. Some of her videos are referenced here
[5]
[6]
4. She is the main star of
SGAG, which has more than 800k followers on Facebook, and 450k on instagram.
5. I have made multiple edits (in an effort to address template maintanence issues), and no new content was added. Please take some time to review my edit. Thank you!
Iz55 (
talk)
02:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
References
For those reasons the edit request is declined. . spintendo⋅⋅) 04:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Example No.#1
"Lee was discovered by SGAG after they came across her blog,[4] in which she illustrates stories from her daily life in an endearing humorous style,[5] which they would later published sic one of her articles regarding the Carousell onto their social platforms."
Example No.#2"Lee joined SGAG in January 2016 and helped to establish its video team, where she is fully involved with the productions of the SGAG videos since then, sic in which she often appears under the personas as sic a news presenter.."
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The reviewer would like to request the editor with a COI attempt to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area first. |
The editor who placed the templates, in this case Chrissymad, should be consulted first about the recent changes you've made, in order to garner their opinion on the state of the article and whether or not they feel the tags can now be removed. . spintendo⋅⋅) 12:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I have received feedback from the teahouse that "grown to become asia's most recognisable characters" may sound like a press release. In an effort to address the maintanece tag issues, i propose to revise that sentence:
Annette Rochelle Lee (born 10 July 1992), is a Singaporean actress, singer-songwriter, scriptwriter, director and YouTube personality. She is best known for her work on the media platform SGAG, where she stars in comedic videos based on the personas of "Sue Ann" and "Suezanna Chole Tan". [1] [2]. Lee is also a singer-songwriter and she released her debut electro-folk EP in 2017. [1]
References
I agree with David notMD, that the subject's notability is established. Seeing the changes that David made, perhaps we could impose on Chrissymad one more time to have a look and see how the page looks and if the tags can be reconsidered. Thank you to everyone for their help on this, it's much appreciated. . spintendo⋅⋅) 06:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
In light of David notMD and my opinions that the subject has met notability requirements, I've gone ahead and removed that template. I can't speak to the other remaining two, as the decision to place them is a bit more nuanced than the cut and dry requirements for notability, so IMO it would still be best to have the input of Chrissymad. . spintendo⋅⋅) 05:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The reviewer would like to request the editor with a COI attempt to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area first. |
Since the tags had been placed 3 months ago and also reviewed 2 months ago, many more people have since worked on the page and shared their input. Hence, I would like to propose that the remaining tags be removed.
Requesting @ Chrissymad: input on this. My concerns are listed below: