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I'm deleting this statement (it's POV) and deleting the mention of the statline in the introductory paragraph, as well, since it is already mentioned in a more appropriate section of the article. -- Jakob Huneycutt 20:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed this section, as it's borderline POV and is not verifiable.
", a future Defensive player of the year, and possibly a future MVP or hall of famer." Awiseman 17:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
"On January 3, 2006, against the Los Angeles Lakers, Kirilenko posted an amazing statline of 14 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 6 steals and 7 blocks. This was the third time in his career he has scored in double figures and racked up at least 5 in all of the other relevant categories. Arguably, his statline is one of the closest performances to a quintuple double in NBA history. It was also the first-ever regulation "5×6" — a game in which a player registers at least 6 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 blocks, and 6 steals — since the NBA began recording blocks and steals in the 1973-74 season. In 1987, Hakeem Olajuwon had 38 points, 17 rebounds, 12 blocks, 7 steals, and 6 assists for the Houston Rockets in a double-overtime win over the Seattle SuperSonics, the only other time a player has earned a 5×6.[1] "
I say Hakeem's statline is THE closest to a quintuple double ever. He was 1 assist and 5 steals shy. He had 10 or more points, boards, and blocks on March 3, 1990. (29 points, 18 boards, 9 assists, 5 steals, 11 blocks) Technically, he might have had 10 assists but it was a weird thing. The way I hear it, at the end of the game he had 9. So the Rockets check the tape to see if he might have 10, just 'cause he's so close. They find 10, change the box score. NBA says you can't change that so it's not a quadruple double. It's not really just my point of view. That's much closer than Kirilenko's game. Actually, Hakeem had another game that was closer as well. (38 points, 17 boards, 12 blocks, 7 steals, 6 assists) in March 87. It's the article referenced in this article with that nice little [1].
"In the 2003-2004 NBA season, he ranked third in the league in blocked shots per game and fourth in the league in steals per game, becoming just the second player in NBA history to rank in the top five in both categories (David Robinson ranked first and fifth in blocked shots per game and steals per game, respectively, in the 1991-1992 NBA season)."
This is false. He ranked third in blocked shots per game and fourth in steals per game but fifth in steals. David Robinson was first in blocks and blocks per game. But, he was 10th in steals, and fifth in steals PER GAME. Thus, in both instances, steals PER GAME is what is meant. Also, Hakeem was once top 5 in both blocks and steals, so the claim isn't even true that AK is the second person ever as he's the third. The thing is, Hakeem was not top 5 in both blocks per game and steals per game because he was sixth in steals per game. Thus, every instance of steals should be steals per game, as I have already changed, and every instance of blocks should be blocks per game for consistency.
Is he named after the Russian politician of the same name?
NO !!!!!!!
How is a "great" dunk defined? What set of values was applied to determine that dunk as "one of the greatest."
This is POV and will be removed accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ppinette ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
How come there isn't a "Nickname" section in the infoboxes for basketball players? Infoboxes for hockey players have one (eg. Wayne Gretzky). Andrei's nickname, as you all probably know, is "AK47". Should we include nicknames in the infoboxes for basketball players? Ytred ( talk) 18:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
He represented Russia for basketball; and he held the flag in the Opening Ceremony. How would we do this, and do we need a new section? Is this noteworthy (I'm referring to him bearing Russia's flag), or not particularly necessary for Wikipedia? I'm not familiar with Wikipedia's policies, and understand that some policies are balanced with judgement and good common sense. But I know an understanding of the policies can sure help. Will someone better acquainted with Wikipedia help discuss and/or take care of this? Thanks. :) 98.202.38.225 ( talk) 04:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
The lead sentence stating that he's a Russian-American basketball player makes confusion about his representation in international play, and when he acquired his American citizenship he explained that he felt underprivileged living as a foreigner in the United States, and it mostly reflected his decision to attain a US citizenship. In addition he emphasized his insistence to continue playing for Russia until the end of his career. I know it's not the first time to face this problem for the sportspeople, and to clear up it further to make more sense. My suggestion is to replace the fact that he's a Russian-American basketball player with Russian only, that clearly states his representation of Russia instead of the possible misunderstanding that he also represents the United States, and on the other hand to put a sentence that he additionally attained a US citizenship. Same solution is used to denote the proclamation of Emmanuel Lasker and Bobby Fischer. Thanks.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 19:33, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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I'm deleting this statement (it's POV) and deleting the mention of the statline in the introductory paragraph, as well, since it is already mentioned in a more appropriate section of the article. -- Jakob Huneycutt 20:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed this section, as it's borderline POV and is not verifiable.
", a future Defensive player of the year, and possibly a future MVP or hall of famer." Awiseman 17:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
"On January 3, 2006, against the Los Angeles Lakers, Kirilenko posted an amazing statline of 14 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 6 steals and 7 blocks. This was the third time in his career he has scored in double figures and racked up at least 5 in all of the other relevant categories. Arguably, his statline is one of the closest performances to a quintuple double in NBA history. It was also the first-ever regulation "5×6" — a game in which a player registers at least 6 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 blocks, and 6 steals — since the NBA began recording blocks and steals in the 1973-74 season. In 1987, Hakeem Olajuwon had 38 points, 17 rebounds, 12 blocks, 7 steals, and 6 assists for the Houston Rockets in a double-overtime win over the Seattle SuperSonics, the only other time a player has earned a 5×6.[1] "
I say Hakeem's statline is THE closest to a quintuple double ever. He was 1 assist and 5 steals shy. He had 10 or more points, boards, and blocks on March 3, 1990. (29 points, 18 boards, 9 assists, 5 steals, 11 blocks) Technically, he might have had 10 assists but it was a weird thing. The way I hear it, at the end of the game he had 9. So the Rockets check the tape to see if he might have 10, just 'cause he's so close. They find 10, change the box score. NBA says you can't change that so it's not a quadruple double. It's not really just my point of view. That's much closer than Kirilenko's game. Actually, Hakeem had another game that was closer as well. (38 points, 17 boards, 12 blocks, 7 steals, 6 assists) in March 87. It's the article referenced in this article with that nice little [1].
"In the 2003-2004 NBA season, he ranked third in the league in blocked shots per game and fourth in the league in steals per game, becoming just the second player in NBA history to rank in the top five in both categories (David Robinson ranked first and fifth in blocked shots per game and steals per game, respectively, in the 1991-1992 NBA season)."
This is false. He ranked third in blocked shots per game and fourth in steals per game but fifth in steals. David Robinson was first in blocks and blocks per game. But, he was 10th in steals, and fifth in steals PER GAME. Thus, in both instances, steals PER GAME is what is meant. Also, Hakeem was once top 5 in both blocks and steals, so the claim isn't even true that AK is the second person ever as he's the third. The thing is, Hakeem was not top 5 in both blocks per game and steals per game because he was sixth in steals per game. Thus, every instance of steals should be steals per game, as I have already changed, and every instance of blocks should be blocks per game for consistency.
Is he named after the Russian politician of the same name?
NO !!!!!!!
How is a "great" dunk defined? What set of values was applied to determine that dunk as "one of the greatest."
This is POV and will be removed accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ppinette ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
How come there isn't a "Nickname" section in the infoboxes for basketball players? Infoboxes for hockey players have one (eg. Wayne Gretzky). Andrei's nickname, as you all probably know, is "AK47". Should we include nicknames in the infoboxes for basketball players? Ytred ( talk) 18:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
He represented Russia for basketball; and he held the flag in the Opening Ceremony. How would we do this, and do we need a new section? Is this noteworthy (I'm referring to him bearing Russia's flag), or not particularly necessary for Wikipedia? I'm not familiar with Wikipedia's policies, and understand that some policies are balanced with judgement and good common sense. But I know an understanding of the policies can sure help. Will someone better acquainted with Wikipedia help discuss and/or take care of this? Thanks. :) 98.202.38.225 ( talk) 04:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
The lead sentence stating that he's a Russian-American basketball player makes confusion about his representation in international play, and when he acquired his American citizenship he explained that he felt underprivileged living as a foreigner in the United States, and it mostly reflected his decision to attain a US citizenship. In addition he emphasized his insistence to continue playing for Russia until the end of his career. I know it's not the first time to face this problem for the sportspeople, and to clear up it further to make more sense. My suggestion is to replace the fact that he's a Russian-American basketball player with Russian only, that clearly states his representation of Russia instead of the possible misunderstanding that he also represents the United States, and on the other hand to put a sentence that he additionally attained a US citizenship. Same solution is used to denote the proclamation of Emmanuel Lasker and Bobby Fischer. Thanks.-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 19:33, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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Why does Kirilenko's page use mdy dates? He is Russian, and therefore should probably use dmy dates. Thoughts?