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Every time I look at this article, I question what the section on §Empires, kingdoms and regions adds to this article. It's a pretty random collection of polities (despite the name, there are no "regions" included) with no clear inclusion criteria, listing some very minor kingdoms which have no place in a wikipedia article on a topic as broad as ancient Greece ( Dayuan, seriously?); including some weird overlaps (the kingdom of Macedon is listed as lasting until 146 BC, but the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled Macedon for the last part of that, is listed separately); and having strange omissions (why is the Delian League listed but the Peloponnesian League not?
Really, the major players should be (and in many cases already are!) discussed in §History, §Geography, and §Politics and society. Given that this entire section is completely uncited, I would suggest getting rid of the entire §Empires, kingdoms and regions section and its 14 variably helpful maps. This frees up 1500 words which would be much better spent on virtually anything else – we currently have fewer than 150 words on the legacy of ancient Greece(!), even less on the economy, barely a mention of Greek pottery or vase-painting, and only a single mention of women in the entire text. Caeciliusinhorto-public ( talk) 09:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Does that link really need to be there? It honestly seems comedic. 12.175.28.210 ( talk) 21:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
This page appears to miss the plot in ascribing the timeline of "ancient Greece" as continuing up until 600AD. That's not ancient anything. It's past classical and late antiquity and well on into the Middle Ages, which start in the late 5th century. In the Timeline of Ancient Greece, the timeline stops at the Battle of Corinth (146 BC), which saw the defeat of the Greek city states by the Roman republic and thus ushered in the Greco-Roman period. Other sources draw the line of ancient Greece even earlier, Britannia at 323BCE, with the death of Alexander. Iskandar323 ( talk) 07:36, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Under subtitle "Hellenistic Greece," the first sentence should be changed from "The period from the death of Alexander the Great in 323 until the death of Cleopatra..." to "The period from the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BC until the death of Cleopatra..." Jconn071 ( talk) 00:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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Every time I look at this article, I question what the section on §Empires, kingdoms and regions adds to this article. It's a pretty random collection of polities (despite the name, there are no "regions" included) with no clear inclusion criteria, listing some very minor kingdoms which have no place in a wikipedia article on a topic as broad as ancient Greece ( Dayuan, seriously?); including some weird overlaps (the kingdom of Macedon is listed as lasting until 146 BC, but the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled Macedon for the last part of that, is listed separately); and having strange omissions (why is the Delian League listed but the Peloponnesian League not?
Really, the major players should be (and in many cases already are!) discussed in §History, §Geography, and §Politics and society. Given that this entire section is completely uncited, I would suggest getting rid of the entire §Empires, kingdoms and regions section and its 14 variably helpful maps. This frees up 1500 words which would be much better spent on virtually anything else – we currently have fewer than 150 words on the legacy of ancient Greece(!), even less on the economy, barely a mention of Greek pottery or vase-painting, and only a single mention of women in the entire text. Caeciliusinhorto-public ( talk) 09:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Does that link really need to be there? It honestly seems comedic. 12.175.28.210 ( talk) 21:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
This page appears to miss the plot in ascribing the timeline of "ancient Greece" as continuing up until 600AD. That's not ancient anything. It's past classical and late antiquity and well on into the Middle Ages, which start in the late 5th century. In the Timeline of Ancient Greece, the timeline stops at the Battle of Corinth (146 BC), which saw the defeat of the Greek city states by the Roman republic and thus ushered in the Greco-Roman period. Other sources draw the line of ancient Greece even earlier, Britannia at 323BCE, with the death of Alexander. Iskandar323 ( talk) 07:36, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Under subtitle "Hellenistic Greece," the first sentence should be changed from "The period from the death of Alexander the Great in 323 until the death of Cleopatra..." to "The period from the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BC until the death of Cleopatra..." Jconn071 ( talk) 00:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)