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Eric Schwartz was involved making furry animations on the Amiga. Can this be on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4700:2D30:A9E2:31EA:715E:AB2C ( talk) 18:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm sure folks know that the NatAmi article recently fell at AFD, I have cut that article way down in length and added it to the hardware section here. Please double check this for accuracy. The key issue is that we lack sufficient reliable sources to document this project in an article of its own. I recognize that there is a lot of information on various forums about the project, but we do not use those as sources except in very limited cases. It would be helpful to find one external link that we can point to with a list of links to the various sources of information that do exist, but which do not meet WP's RS guidelines. -- Nuujinn ( talk) 13:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
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Procedurally proposing a merger of Natami in line with Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 June 27. Courcelles 09:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I remember using an Amiga 3000, with laserdisc data set, for TOW missile training some years ago, but cannot find sources to reference the use. Wzrd1 ( talk) 15:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Some civil service computer programmers used home machines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.149.135.25 ( talk) 21:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
This article needs streamlined. There is still a lot of shit here, particularly in the sections about peripherals, networking (both of which belong in other articles) and notable historic uses (trivia). Unless anyone is going to rework these soon I am quite tempted to remove most of that content. Crb136 ( talk) 04:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I reverted these "changes" back. His edits speak for themselves. I expect edit war from his side. Really sad someone vandalises article about nearly dead computer platform. Pavlor ( talk) 08:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
As much as "RealAmigaMan" is probably only in it for trolling and petty vandalism, there is a point that AmigaONE and Amiga are not the same brand and shouldn't be treated as such. Recommend moving AmigaONE off this page and linking it via AmigaOS only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.253.99.231 ( talk) 21:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Could someone with editing rights please make a change to the serial port specifications listing in this Wikipedia Amiga article?
Currently it lists it as greater than or equal to 115 Kbps (in the table listing communication interfaces used).
However, it would be nice to inform people of what this port was actually capable on the Amiga -- especially compared to the initial serial chip on the IBM PC and even compared to the UART that followed on later PCs.
The AMIGA Hardware Reference Manual (Third Edition) lists the AMIGA's serial UART performance as follows:
"This UART is programmable for any rate from 110 to over 1,000,000 bits per second."
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Some unregistred editor did probably good-faith edits and changed wording in introduction, stating Amiga computers were produced not only by Commodore, but also by Eyetech and A-eon. I reverted this change from these reasons:
1. Current consensus is not to mix original Amiga models and later AmigaOne computers.
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Your opinions? Pavlor ( talk) 09:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
I toned down (and corrected) some AmigaOne informations in the article. I think our consensus remains to leave AmigaOne share in the article as it is. Pavlor ( talk) 09:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Someone recently added a long piece of text glorifying the Amiga as "the Jurassic computer", responsible for the CGI effects in Jurassic Park, but it was later reverted. I'm going to add it back, but heavily shortened, and with none of the glorifying, just mentioning that the Amiga as used for the CGI effects. But this will probably have to wait until after Christmas. JIP | Talk 22:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I delete sentence "Tramiel provided a $500,000 loan to keep the company running, with the proviso that failure to pay it back in one month would leave Atari owning the technology.[10]" since there is no mention of Jack name in reference http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/a-history-of-the-amiga-part-3/3/ from link: "CEO Dave Morse gave presentations to a number of companies, including Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Philips, Apple, and Silicon Graphics, but the only interested suitor was Atari, who lent the struggling company $500,000 as part of a set of painful buyout negotiations. According to the contract, Amiga had to pay back the $500,000 by the end of June or Atari would own all of their technology." Atari Inc. (predate Jack Tramiels Atari Corp.) lend money, not Jack. More about this topic you can find in book "Business is Fun" by Marty Goldberg and Curt Vendel with original contract. If someone have time it would be nice to have complete topic covered here on wikipedia. Link to "Business is Fun" book with story about Jack Tramiel, Atari Inc and Amiga: https://books.google.rs/books?id=3FwGMtRafrAC&pg=PA746&lpg=PA746&dq=Marty+Goldberg+and+Curt+Vendel+amiga+atari+contract+business+is+fun&source=bl&ots=1lqmZjSsm6&sig=SJykhw-Z76j_2QoVUakauEzRGL0&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=loan&f=false from page 743 -- Calimero ( talk) 10:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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Dgpop removed "video game console" from the infobox, because No support in the article for this being a video game console, other than early prototypes. However, the article clearly says: Commodore's last Amiga offering before filing for bankruptcy was an attempt to capture a portion of the highly competitive 1990s console market with the Amiga CD32 (1993), a 32-bit CD-ROM games console. (section Models and variants/Commodore Amiga/4th paragraph) - so I reverted that edit. Then Zac67 reverted my revert claiming Not consistent with lede.. I would like to return "video game console" back to infobox. Your opinion? Pavlor ( talk) 06:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Complainer - whom I respectfully invite to this discussion - changed wording in the lead from "is a family of personal computers sold by Commodore starting in 1985" to "Amiga is a family of personal computers sold by Commodore from 1985 to 1996". Note Commodore went bankrupt in 1994 and Amiga computers were sold later by Escom/Amiga Technologies (including the new A4000T/060 model), there were also other "would to be successor" products to the original Amiga line: eg. dAmiga (development computer for Amiga DE; 2000), AmigaOne (since 2002; this one is sold even now) or Amiga Mini (2011/2012). Not even counting these later models, it is obvious Commodore did not sell Amiga computers until 1996, so the new proposed wording is misleading at best. I propose to return to the old (and stable) wording. Your opinion? Pavlor ( talk) 09:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
The article states in the lead "Commodore ultimately went bankrupt in April 1994 after the Amiga CD32 model failed in the marketplace.". I not so sure that is a completely accurate statement. First, the CD32 did see some success in Europe but was hamstrung by Commodore's lack of finances which meant that a large number of CD32 consoles where being held up in the Philippines, where they where manufactured, awaiting payment. Secondly, Commodore had intended to release the console in the U.S. but a patent lawsuit by Cad Track had resulted in an injunction preventing Commodore from importing any hardware into the U.S. until Commodore paid patent royalty to owed to them. Because Commodore was bleeding cash by this point they could not pay the royalty owed and thus where never able to get the CD32 to the U.S. market before they went bankrupt. Thus, I don't think it's fair to say the CD32 "failed" and that why Commodore went bankrupt but rather that a several factors contributed to it's bankruptcy. As stated in the Amiga CD32 article: "Ultimately, Commodore was not able to meet demand for new units because of component supply problems. Sales of the CD32 in Europe were not enough to save Commodore, and the bankruptcy of Commodore International in April 1994 caused the CD32 to be discontinued only eight months after its debut." So the reality was that the CD32 wasn't totally a failure just not enough of a success (partly due to lack of ability to meet demand due to supply problems) to stave off bankruptcy. -- Notcharliechaplin ( talk) 18:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
The third sentence of the second paragraph of the introductory section is defective. "The A3000, introduced in 1990, started the second generation of Amiga systems...". This should be the A2000 introduced in 1987. The article for the A3000 states that it was the start of the third generation of Amigas.
Somebody needs to fix this. I am not an Amiga person so maybe there is something going on here that I don't get. So somebody who knows Amigas needs to look at this. But to me this looks wrong. Wikkileaker ( talk) 12:35, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
I just removed "generations" from the article lead, feel free to revert/rewrite. I also rewrote lead of the A3000 and A1200 articles. Pavlor ( talk) 05:27, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Amiga actually was inspired by Irix. This should be in the article. A modern day "Amiga" would be BSD based, and the Odenix Trade PatchClass, addresses Amiga-like userbases wishes of an indie economy also.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR3gmLVjHS5A702wo4bol_Q
Indeed the amiga is much part of what later became "EDM".
"The problem was somewhat exacerbated by Commodore's initial decision to release documentation relating not only to the OS's underlying software routines,[citation needed] but also to the hardware itself, enabling intrepid programmers who had developed their skills on the Commodore 64 to POKE the hardware directly, as was done on the older platform. While the decision to release the documentation was a popular one and allowed the creation of fast, sophisticated sound and graphics routines in games and demos, it also contributed to system instability[citation needed]as some programmers lacked the expertise to program at this level. For this reason, when the new AGA chipset was released, Commodore declined to release low-level documentation in an attempt to force developers into using the approved software routines.[citation needed]"
Tumacama ( talk) 03:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
With the release of things like the Vampire and Mist should we add a section on the FPGAs under Legacy?-- EggsHam ( talk) 07:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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Eric Schwartz was involved making furry animations on the Amiga. Can this be on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4700:2D30:A9E2:31EA:715E:AB2C ( talk) 18:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm sure folks know that the NatAmi article recently fell at AFD, I have cut that article way down in length and added it to the hardware section here. Please double check this for accuracy. The key issue is that we lack sufficient reliable sources to document this project in an article of its own. I recognize that there is a lot of information on various forums about the project, but we do not use those as sources except in very limited cases. It would be helpful to find one external link that we can point to with a list of links to the various sources of information that do exist, but which do not meet WP's RS guidelines. -- Nuujinn ( talk) 13:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
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Procedurally proposing a merger of Natami in line with Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 June 27. Courcelles 09:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I remember using an Amiga 3000, with laserdisc data set, for TOW missile training some years ago, but cannot find sources to reference the use. Wzrd1 ( talk) 15:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Some civil service computer programmers used home machines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.149.135.25 ( talk) 21:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
This article needs streamlined. There is still a lot of shit here, particularly in the sections about peripherals, networking (both of which belong in other articles) and notable historic uses (trivia). Unless anyone is going to rework these soon I am quite tempted to remove most of that content. Crb136 ( talk) 04:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I reverted these "changes" back. His edits speak for themselves. I expect edit war from his side. Really sad someone vandalises article about nearly dead computer platform. Pavlor ( talk) 08:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
As much as "RealAmigaMan" is probably only in it for trolling and petty vandalism, there is a point that AmigaONE and Amiga are not the same brand and shouldn't be treated as such. Recommend moving AmigaONE off this page and linking it via AmigaOS only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.253.99.231 ( talk) 21:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Could someone with editing rights please make a change to the serial port specifications listing in this Wikipedia Amiga article?
Currently it lists it as greater than or equal to 115 Kbps (in the table listing communication interfaces used).
However, it would be nice to inform people of what this port was actually capable on the Amiga -- especially compared to the initial serial chip on the IBM PC and even compared to the UART that followed on later PCs.
The AMIGA Hardware Reference Manual (Third Edition) lists the AMIGA's serial UART performance as follows:
"This UART is programmable for any rate from 110 to over 1,000,000 bits per second."
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Some unregistred editor did probably good-faith edits and changed wording in introduction, stating Amiga computers were produced not only by Commodore, but also by Eyetech and A-eon. I reverted this change from these reasons:
1. Current consensus is not to mix original Amiga models and later AmigaOne computers.
2. Although AmigaOne exists for 15 years, its impact on computer world is not (even remotely) comparable to Amiga. We shall not give undue weight to later developements.
3. AmigaOne (like other similar efforts) already has its place in introduction.
Your opinions? Pavlor ( talk) 09:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
I toned down (and corrected) some AmigaOne informations in the article. I think our consensus remains to leave AmigaOne share in the article as it is. Pavlor ( talk) 09:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Someone recently added a long piece of text glorifying the Amiga as "the Jurassic computer", responsible for the CGI effects in Jurassic Park, but it was later reverted. I'm going to add it back, but heavily shortened, and with none of the glorifying, just mentioning that the Amiga as used for the CGI effects. But this will probably have to wait until after Christmas. JIP | Talk 22:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I delete sentence "Tramiel provided a $500,000 loan to keep the company running, with the proviso that failure to pay it back in one month would leave Atari owning the technology.[10]" since there is no mention of Jack name in reference http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/a-history-of-the-amiga-part-3/3/ from link: "CEO Dave Morse gave presentations to a number of companies, including Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Philips, Apple, and Silicon Graphics, but the only interested suitor was Atari, who lent the struggling company $500,000 as part of a set of painful buyout negotiations. According to the contract, Amiga had to pay back the $500,000 by the end of June or Atari would own all of their technology." Atari Inc. (predate Jack Tramiels Atari Corp.) lend money, not Jack. More about this topic you can find in book "Business is Fun" by Marty Goldberg and Curt Vendel with original contract. If someone have time it would be nice to have complete topic covered here on wikipedia. Link to "Business is Fun" book with story about Jack Tramiel, Atari Inc and Amiga: https://books.google.rs/books?id=3FwGMtRafrAC&pg=PA746&lpg=PA746&dq=Marty+Goldberg+and+Curt+Vendel+amiga+atari+contract+business+is+fun&source=bl&ots=1lqmZjSsm6&sig=SJykhw-Z76j_2QoVUakauEzRGL0&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=loan&f=false from page 743 -- Calimero ( talk) 10:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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Dgpop removed "video game console" from the infobox, because No support in the article for this being a video game console, other than early prototypes. However, the article clearly says: Commodore's last Amiga offering before filing for bankruptcy was an attempt to capture a portion of the highly competitive 1990s console market with the Amiga CD32 (1993), a 32-bit CD-ROM games console. (section Models and variants/Commodore Amiga/4th paragraph) - so I reverted that edit. Then Zac67 reverted my revert claiming Not consistent with lede.. I would like to return "video game console" back to infobox. Your opinion? Pavlor ( talk) 06:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Complainer - whom I respectfully invite to this discussion - changed wording in the lead from "is a family of personal computers sold by Commodore starting in 1985" to "Amiga is a family of personal computers sold by Commodore from 1985 to 1996". Note Commodore went bankrupt in 1994 and Amiga computers were sold later by Escom/Amiga Technologies (including the new A4000T/060 model), there were also other "would to be successor" products to the original Amiga line: eg. dAmiga (development computer for Amiga DE; 2000), AmigaOne (since 2002; this one is sold even now) or Amiga Mini (2011/2012). Not even counting these later models, it is obvious Commodore did not sell Amiga computers until 1996, so the new proposed wording is misleading at best. I propose to return to the old (and stable) wording. Your opinion? Pavlor ( talk) 09:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
The article states in the lead "Commodore ultimately went bankrupt in April 1994 after the Amiga CD32 model failed in the marketplace.". I not so sure that is a completely accurate statement. First, the CD32 did see some success in Europe but was hamstrung by Commodore's lack of finances which meant that a large number of CD32 consoles where being held up in the Philippines, where they where manufactured, awaiting payment. Secondly, Commodore had intended to release the console in the U.S. but a patent lawsuit by Cad Track had resulted in an injunction preventing Commodore from importing any hardware into the U.S. until Commodore paid patent royalty to owed to them. Because Commodore was bleeding cash by this point they could not pay the royalty owed and thus where never able to get the CD32 to the U.S. market before they went bankrupt. Thus, I don't think it's fair to say the CD32 "failed" and that why Commodore went bankrupt but rather that a several factors contributed to it's bankruptcy. As stated in the Amiga CD32 article: "Ultimately, Commodore was not able to meet demand for new units because of component supply problems. Sales of the CD32 in Europe were not enough to save Commodore, and the bankruptcy of Commodore International in April 1994 caused the CD32 to be discontinued only eight months after its debut." So the reality was that the CD32 wasn't totally a failure just not enough of a success (partly due to lack of ability to meet demand due to supply problems) to stave off bankruptcy. -- Notcharliechaplin ( talk) 18:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
The third sentence of the second paragraph of the introductory section is defective. "The A3000, introduced in 1990, started the second generation of Amiga systems...". This should be the A2000 introduced in 1987. The article for the A3000 states that it was the start of the third generation of Amigas.
Somebody needs to fix this. I am not an Amiga person so maybe there is something going on here that I don't get. So somebody who knows Amigas needs to look at this. But to me this looks wrong. Wikkileaker ( talk) 12:35, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
I just removed "generations" from the article lead, feel free to revert/rewrite. I also rewrote lead of the A3000 and A1200 articles. Pavlor ( talk) 05:27, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Amiga actually was inspired by Irix. This should be in the article. A modern day "Amiga" would be BSD based, and the Odenix Trade PatchClass, addresses Amiga-like userbases wishes of an indie economy also.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR3gmLVjHS5A702wo4bol_Q
Indeed the amiga is much part of what later became "EDM".
"The problem was somewhat exacerbated by Commodore's initial decision to release documentation relating not only to the OS's underlying software routines,[citation needed] but also to the hardware itself, enabling intrepid programmers who had developed their skills on the Commodore 64 to POKE the hardware directly, as was done on the older platform. While the decision to release the documentation was a popular one and allowed the creation of fast, sophisticated sound and graphics routines in games and demos, it also contributed to system instability[citation needed]as some programmers lacked the expertise to program at this level. For this reason, when the new AGA chipset was released, Commodore declined to release low-level documentation in an attempt to force developers into using the approved software routines.[citation needed]"
Tumacama ( talk) 03:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
With the release of things like the Vampire and Mist should we add a section on the FPGAs under Legacy?-- EggsHam ( talk) 07:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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