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The term Native American is actually accurate only for those who originated in America, such the native tribes of the Americas. The term Native American refers to those living in the United States and Canada. Those of Central and South America usually refer to themselves by tribe.
The proper phrase to use in describing the indigenous inhabitants of North and South America is "American Indian" (as most indigenous peoples prefer this).
What is the difference between them? They both seem to be disambiguating the same things.
Native Americans is the more informative page, and acceptable term, so I think it should be the default page. Coyoty20:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
For the most part they do, but American Indian makes it clear that the term is almost never used to refer to (subcontinental) Indian Americans. Also, while "Native American" may be "the acceptable term" in official circles, many indigenous Americans continue to prefer "Indian" and "American Indian", not least among them
Dennis Banks. If we can make this clear on
American Indian, it will be worth keeping. Otherwise, we'll have to put a note at the top of
Native American that says "American Indian redirects here. For [[United States|American]] people of [[India]]n ancestry, see [[Indian American]]". Which I suppose wouldn't be so bad. Let's see what the others think, shall we?--
Rockero05:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Support]. These two articles can be merged but they should be merged under the title of native american as the term american indian is a legacy to the ignorance of the people who discovered them.—The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
81.79.185.118 (
talk •
contribs).
Oppose per Rockero: American Indian should stand alone as a page; placing a comment about Indian Americans at the top of the Native American page would be awkward.—C.Fred (
talk)
21:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose.] I don't know what a "Native American" is, so I consider that it is a worse term than the traditional descriptive, which is ""American Indian." You cannot re-invent the wheel.
Superslum08:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Kilocycle has been changed to
Kilohertz, and
Millibar was changed to
Hectopascal, so there is probably no way to stop the creation of "Native Americans." I had no objections to saying "kilocycle" (kc), "millibar" (mb), and "Indian." Other people wanted changes, however. Sayonara.
Superslum12:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Support.] Of course the two articles should become one entry. They are attempting to discuss the same topic (and quite poorly I might add). Do not let your debate over the ideal term (Native American or American Indian or other) confuse the issue of content. This argument over terminology remains a debate in the highest echelons of academia and we will not make the definitive decision here so for the moment let us put the debate over terminology aside. Instead observe that the two articles are intended to cover the same content (indigenous peoples of America--or whatever you may call it) and so they should be merged into one entry. Let the battle over the term and entry title be a separate issue (and possibly a point of discussion within the article) once we have agreed to unite the entries.--M.G., 03 Aug 06
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
No, the page should just point to the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which is indigenous Americans. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is linked from there and we can have a (dab) page for the few people looking for Americans from India. —
LlywelynII
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The term Native American is actually accurate only for those who originated in America, such the native tribes of the Americas. The term Native American refers to those living in the United States and Canada. Those of Central and South America usually refer to themselves by tribe.
The proper phrase to use in describing the indigenous inhabitants of North and South America is "American Indian" (as most indigenous peoples prefer this).
What is the difference between them? They both seem to be disambiguating the same things.
Native Americans is the more informative page, and acceptable term, so I think it should be the default page. Coyoty20:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
For the most part they do, but American Indian makes it clear that the term is almost never used to refer to (subcontinental) Indian Americans. Also, while "Native American" may be "the acceptable term" in official circles, many indigenous Americans continue to prefer "Indian" and "American Indian", not least among them
Dennis Banks. If we can make this clear on
American Indian, it will be worth keeping. Otherwise, we'll have to put a note at the top of
Native American that says "American Indian redirects here. For [[United States|American]] people of [[India]]n ancestry, see [[Indian American]]". Which I suppose wouldn't be so bad. Let's see what the others think, shall we?--
Rockero05:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Support]. These two articles can be merged but they should be merged under the title of native american as the term american indian is a legacy to the ignorance of the people who discovered them.—The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
81.79.185.118 (
talk •
contribs).
Oppose per Rockero: American Indian should stand alone as a page; placing a comment about Indian Americans at the top of the Native American page would be awkward.—C.Fred (
talk)
21:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose.] I don't know what a "Native American" is, so I consider that it is a worse term than the traditional descriptive, which is ""American Indian." You cannot re-invent the wheel.
Superslum08:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Kilocycle has been changed to
Kilohertz, and
Millibar was changed to
Hectopascal, so there is probably no way to stop the creation of "Native Americans." I had no objections to saying "kilocycle" (kc), "millibar" (mb), and "Indian." Other people wanted changes, however. Sayonara.
Superslum12:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Support.] Of course the two articles should become one entry. They are attempting to discuss the same topic (and quite poorly I might add). Do not let your debate over the ideal term (Native American or American Indian or other) confuse the issue of content. This argument over terminology remains a debate in the highest echelons of academia and we will not make the definitive decision here so for the moment let us put the debate over terminology aside. Instead observe that the two articles are intended to cover the same content (indigenous peoples of America--or whatever you may call it) and so they should be merged into one entry. Let the battle over the term and entry title be a separate issue (and possibly a point of discussion within the article) once we have agreed to unite the entries.--M.G., 03 Aug 06
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
No, the page should just point to the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which is indigenous Americans. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is linked from there and we can have a (dab) page for the few people looking for Americans from India. —
LlywelynII