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On 19 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from American Born Chinese to American Born Chinese (graphic novel). The result of the discussion was moved. |
This really needs a spoiler alert in the analysis section. I was looking forward to being surprised by how the stories fit together, but I accidentally found out by reading the Analysis section of this Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maurajbo ( talk • contribs) 16:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Should this line be in the description? Art Spiegelman's Maus won the Pulitzer in 1992.
-- 209.12.46.2 13:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
How about inserting some text or even a section discussion the Christian underpinnings in this book? Although I don't know if there are any reliable sources on this though. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 14:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/reviews/reviewsABC.html
This shows a bunch of reviews WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
This article is quite lacking in research. Here is a short list of some potential articles that can back up some of the claims made here.
Bosman, Julie. "National Book Award Finalists Chosen."New York Times [New York] 12 Oct 2006, E2. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Bush, Elizabeth. "American Born Chinese (Review)."Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books. 60.3 (2006): 152-53. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Chaney, Michael A. "Animal Subjects of the Graphic Novel."College Literature. 38.3 (2011): 129. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Davis, Rocio G.. "Gene Luen Yang's American Born Chinese: Challenging the Comic Stereotype."Graphic Subjects: Critical Essays on Autobiography and Graphic Novels. Ed. Michael A. Chaney. Madison: U of Wisconsin P, 2011. 279-82. Print.
Gomes, Cheryl. "Navigating through Social Norms, Negotiating Place: How American Born Chinese Motivates Struggling Learners." English Journal. 100.2 (2010): 68. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Morton, Paul. "The Millions Interview: Gene Luen Yang."Millions. 08 Jul 2010: n. page. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Pearson, J. Stephen. "The Monkey King in the American Canon: Patricia Chao and Gerald Vizenor's Use of an Iconic Chinese Character." Comparative Literature Studies. 43.3 (2006): 355-74. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Song, Min Hyoung. ""How good it is to be a monkey": comics, racial formation, and American Born Chinese." Mosaic (Winnipeg). 43.1 (2010): 73. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Tan, Shaun. "The Accidental Graphic Novelist." Bookbird: A Journal of International Children's Literature. 49.4 (2011): 1-9. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Woo, Celestine. "Toward a Poetics of Asian American Fantasy: Laurence Yep's Construction of a Bicultural Mythology." Lion and the Unicorn. 30.2 (2006): 250-64. Web. 4 Mar. 2012. Kida5887 ( talk) 17:55, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Here are my ideas for a major overhaul of this article. Mainly, I am going to stick with the sections that are here and make them better. There is so much written here that isn't cited and/or contains opinions and criticism that I feel obligated to focus on that before adding new material.
I am also going to add links to any of the sections I edit. Kida5887 ( talk) 06:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
It threw me off a little bit to see the Character list before the plot summary, especially with the character list being so detailed. It flustered me to read about "Character does this and this" and I haven't heard about the story. I would switch the position of the two. I would also shorten the summary a little bit, as said in class, the summary shouldn't be the majority of the article. Instead I would expand on the issues of the novel and add more about the controversy (maybe it's own section). Keep writing! LoversSpat ( talk) 21:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Peer Review I agree with LoverSpat that the summary should probably come before the character list. I think,having read the book already myself, that this is good character list and descriptions. They were concise and there didn't seem to be any opinion or judgmental tone in them, which I had seen in some others. Also, we talked about plot summaries a tiny bit today and the suggestion was to keep it at around two paragraphs. Dr. Wadewitz said that we don't need a point by point retelling of the story. I can imagine that would be a challenge with this complex story line. It is looking good though! Best, Veganchic ( talk) 01:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks guys, I agree with what you have said about the plot. I was planning on cutting most of it, but haven't got around to it. 134.68.176.151 ( talk) 14:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Why is it that the character list does not include one of the most important characters, Monkey King? He is talked about in the entries for the other characters, but does not have an entry himself. This seems absurd. Also, I did a recent edit on the character entry of Chin-Kee, adding that he turns out to be the Monkey King in disguise. Why is it that this spoiler was reverted, but all the other spoilers are kept? This is misleading. Someone reading this page for information will receive misinformation; they will miss a major character, and they will assume that Chin-Kee remains as originally presented. This would be a logical assumption on the reader's part, as all other spoilers are shown here. Wikipedia pages are intended to provide information, and this page has a hard time doing just that.
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On 19 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from American Born Chinese to American Born Chinese (graphic novel). The result of the discussion was moved. |
This really needs a spoiler alert in the analysis section. I was looking forward to being surprised by how the stories fit together, but I accidentally found out by reading the Analysis section of this Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maurajbo ( talk • contribs) 16:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Should this line be in the description? Art Spiegelman's Maus won the Pulitzer in 1992.
-- 209.12.46.2 13:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
How about inserting some text or even a section discussion the Christian underpinnings in this book? Although I don't know if there are any reliable sources on this though. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 14:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/reviews/reviewsABC.html
This shows a bunch of reviews WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
This article is quite lacking in research. Here is a short list of some potential articles that can back up some of the claims made here.
Bosman, Julie. "National Book Award Finalists Chosen."New York Times [New York] 12 Oct 2006, E2. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Bush, Elizabeth. "American Born Chinese (Review)."Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books. 60.3 (2006): 152-53. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Chaney, Michael A. "Animal Subjects of the Graphic Novel."College Literature. 38.3 (2011): 129. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Davis, Rocio G.. "Gene Luen Yang's American Born Chinese: Challenging the Comic Stereotype."Graphic Subjects: Critical Essays on Autobiography and Graphic Novels. Ed. Michael A. Chaney. Madison: U of Wisconsin P, 2011. 279-82. Print.
Gomes, Cheryl. "Navigating through Social Norms, Negotiating Place: How American Born Chinese Motivates Struggling Learners." English Journal. 100.2 (2010): 68. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Morton, Paul. "The Millions Interview: Gene Luen Yang."Millions. 08 Jul 2010: n. page. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Pearson, J. Stephen. "The Monkey King in the American Canon: Patricia Chao and Gerald Vizenor's Use of an Iconic Chinese Character." Comparative Literature Studies. 43.3 (2006): 355-74. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Song, Min Hyoung. ""How good it is to be a monkey": comics, racial formation, and American Born Chinese." Mosaic (Winnipeg). 43.1 (2010): 73. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Tan, Shaun. "The Accidental Graphic Novelist." Bookbird: A Journal of International Children's Literature. 49.4 (2011): 1-9. Web. 4 Mar. 2012.
Woo, Celestine. "Toward a Poetics of Asian American Fantasy: Laurence Yep's Construction of a Bicultural Mythology." Lion and the Unicorn. 30.2 (2006): 250-64. Web. 4 Mar. 2012. Kida5887 ( talk) 17:55, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Here are my ideas for a major overhaul of this article. Mainly, I am going to stick with the sections that are here and make them better. There is so much written here that isn't cited and/or contains opinions and criticism that I feel obligated to focus on that before adding new material.
I am also going to add links to any of the sections I edit. Kida5887 ( talk) 06:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
It threw me off a little bit to see the Character list before the plot summary, especially with the character list being so detailed. It flustered me to read about "Character does this and this" and I haven't heard about the story. I would switch the position of the two. I would also shorten the summary a little bit, as said in class, the summary shouldn't be the majority of the article. Instead I would expand on the issues of the novel and add more about the controversy (maybe it's own section). Keep writing! LoversSpat ( talk) 21:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Peer Review I agree with LoverSpat that the summary should probably come before the character list. I think,having read the book already myself, that this is good character list and descriptions. They were concise and there didn't seem to be any opinion or judgmental tone in them, which I had seen in some others. Also, we talked about plot summaries a tiny bit today and the suggestion was to keep it at around two paragraphs. Dr. Wadewitz said that we don't need a point by point retelling of the story. I can imagine that would be a challenge with this complex story line. It is looking good though! Best, Veganchic ( talk) 01:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks guys, I agree with what you have said about the plot. I was planning on cutting most of it, but haven't got around to it. 134.68.176.151 ( talk) 14:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Why is it that the character list does not include one of the most important characters, Monkey King? He is talked about in the entries for the other characters, but does not have an entry himself. This seems absurd. Also, I did a recent edit on the character entry of Chin-Kee, adding that he turns out to be the Monkey King in disguise. Why is it that this spoiler was reverted, but all the other spoilers are kept? This is misleading. Someone reading this page for information will receive misinformation; they will miss a major character, and they will assume that Chin-Kee remains as originally presented. This would be a logical assumption on the reader's part, as all other spoilers are shown here. Wikipedia pages are intended to provide information, and this page has a hard time doing just that.
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American Born Chinese → American Born Chinese (graphic novel) – Insufficient disambiguation; see American-born Chinese. 162 etc. ( talk) 06:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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