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"The band survived the loss of one of its original members near the peak of its success..." Was this intended to be a pun? I had to ask. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.203.252 ( talk) 23:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Although a number of websites claim that America's 1982 album is called A View From The Ground (such as allmusic.com), the very cover of the album (see below) does not feature any article before the name. The large "A" within the ellipse is part of America's traditional logo, and the spine of the album confirms this is not part of the title. No subsequent re-release of the album has ever included an article before the main title. Consequently, the correct name of the album is View From The Ground.
With regard to whether the "the" in the album title should be capitalized, it is worth noting that the Wikipedia naming conventions for music albums does not reflect the standard practice of perhaps the definitive bibles of pop music charts and history, Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Hits and Top Pop Albums books. Whitburn's books, as well as most discography books of that ilk, tend to capitalize all words of an album title. (unsigned comment)
Don't forget that comedian Phil Hartman provided cover art for several of America's albums. That factoid even shows up on the Hartman page (with pics, no less). And a mention of the "H"-oriented superstition about America's album titles might be appropriate. (unsigned comment)
I don't see why it's necessary to describe the band as "English-American." They are just American. If Peek, Bunnell and Beckley have English mothers, then say so. If the band was formed in England, say so. It doesn't make them "English."
Tennis legend John McEnroe was born in West Germany. Should we start calling him German-American?
This is enough to provide them of double nationality of course, but not only... None of the members of America grew up in the States, they kept on moving from country to country until they finally settled in London during their teens...so we shouldn't even call them "Americans", am I wrong? The fact is that they're Anglo-American, and that's a fact.
Gianmaria Framarin 03:24, 5 November 2006
I pruned some of the Dan Peek info from the article yesterday - it has since been re-added. I'm not going to revert or anything, but just wanted to say that I think a lot of the particulars of his post-America recording activities belongs in the Dan Peek article itself (and not here, at least not to the detail it's been added). The info about him vis a vis the band (ie, rumors about reuniting with the others) would belong here. NickBurns 15:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you that Dan Peek's subsequent career is best discussed in detail on his own page. But I do think at least a few cursory lines about his solo releases are worth having in the America bio because so many America fans do follow his solo material as closely as they do Gerry's. I refrained from anything more than listing Electro Voice and Crossover, and briefly mentioned his resurgence with PEACE and then as a soloist in 1999. But I haven't spent any time on the details of any of those projects, as that would be best expanded upon in the Dan Peek article. Thoughts? Zevonsky 02:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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The following is unsourced information:
While this is all interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives ( talk) 05:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Chrisdus ( talk) 11:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Hi, would it be a nice addition to the America page to start including a tour dates section? Not only past concerts, but also future ones?
This article is wildly overstuffed and should be condensed by at least three-quarters. It remains full of unsourced statements and includes large amounts of material of interest only to obsessive fans. (The lineup of acts at the band's first concert? Chart position of a "Greatest Hits" album released 30 years after the group's heyday?) Moreover, breathless prose like "However, a fateful connection would provide a sudden and unexpected change in fortune ..." or "While America remained a hot ticket on the touring circuit..." does not belong in an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.107.100 ( talk) 18:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
The introduction, saying how many people wanted a clone, sounds extremely biased. Is this possibly cited somewhere or should this be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.195.129 ( talk) 05:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Just thought I'd ask Christian Roess ( talk) 22:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, I got some more information about how to handle the loss of the Dewey Bunnell article (as a stand-alone rather than as a REDIRECT). (And thanks again for your insight User:Hulmem and your help with the process of organizing my appeal).
And I did make an appeal. I made an appeal over at the WP:BLPN and you can access that over here. User:Active Banana contibuted over there at the BLP noticeboard and commented above. Will have to follow those suggestions. Also, another editor made some very friendly and useful comments on my talk page about what can be done. on my talk page here. So let me get hold of some resources and citations that will (hopefully) justify the restoration of the Dewey Bunnell page & get it back up so that it stays up. And FYI to any possible editors: Those comments on my talk page that I just mentioned and linked to are especially helpful. I'll see what I can do in the coming days (weeks) on my end to restore the article. Christian Roess ( talk) 00:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
The Band Members section needs to be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.169.151.249 ( talk) 19:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:America (band)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
There is a lot of good information here, but the article does not cite any sources, otherwise it would probably qualify for at least a GA(good article) status. - cgilbert( talk| contribs) 18:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC) |
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The article doesn't mention under the recent activity section that America was featured on Chicago's [ Christmas Three] album in 2011. The link provided gives info from that album. Don't know if that's important enough to mention in the article or not, so I'm not going to edit it in myself. Rather I'll let others decide if it's worth mentioning rather than editing it in and having someone else decide to edit it out as too trivial. -anonymous 5/23/2016 12:24 EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18B:0:9141:9022:E028:5F:FB4A ( talk) 04:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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What reason are the band categorised as " British-American" when all three are American ?
I understand that Lee Merton "Dewey" Bunnell was born in England to an English mum, but has he got British citizenship? Is the mere formality of having it enough to make a band that's called "America" and famous for it's American country sound even slightly British?
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"During the summer/fall of 1974, bassist Calvin "Fuzzy" Samuels (formerly of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Manassas) was called to fill in for Dickey, who had come to Europe but then flown home inadvertently."
He flew home without meaning to? What is this meant to say? Normally, I'd just fix it when I find a wildly incorrect use of a word, but I don't understand the context. Perhaps it means what it says, but then it should have more context. 128.151.71.7 ( talk) 12:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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"The band survived the loss of one of its original members near the peak of its success..." Was this intended to be a pun? I had to ask. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.203.252 ( talk) 23:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Although a number of websites claim that America's 1982 album is called A View From The Ground (such as allmusic.com), the very cover of the album (see below) does not feature any article before the name. The large "A" within the ellipse is part of America's traditional logo, and the spine of the album confirms this is not part of the title. No subsequent re-release of the album has ever included an article before the main title. Consequently, the correct name of the album is View From The Ground.
With regard to whether the "the" in the album title should be capitalized, it is worth noting that the Wikipedia naming conventions for music albums does not reflect the standard practice of perhaps the definitive bibles of pop music charts and history, Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Hits and Top Pop Albums books. Whitburn's books, as well as most discography books of that ilk, tend to capitalize all words of an album title. (unsigned comment)
Don't forget that comedian Phil Hartman provided cover art for several of America's albums. That factoid even shows up on the Hartman page (with pics, no less). And a mention of the "H"-oriented superstition about America's album titles might be appropriate. (unsigned comment)
I don't see why it's necessary to describe the band as "English-American." They are just American. If Peek, Bunnell and Beckley have English mothers, then say so. If the band was formed in England, say so. It doesn't make them "English."
Tennis legend John McEnroe was born in West Germany. Should we start calling him German-American?
This is enough to provide them of double nationality of course, but not only... None of the members of America grew up in the States, they kept on moving from country to country until they finally settled in London during their teens...so we shouldn't even call them "Americans", am I wrong? The fact is that they're Anglo-American, and that's a fact.
Gianmaria Framarin 03:24, 5 November 2006
I pruned some of the Dan Peek info from the article yesterday - it has since been re-added. I'm not going to revert or anything, but just wanted to say that I think a lot of the particulars of his post-America recording activities belongs in the Dan Peek article itself (and not here, at least not to the detail it's been added). The info about him vis a vis the band (ie, rumors about reuniting with the others) would belong here. NickBurns 15:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you that Dan Peek's subsequent career is best discussed in detail on his own page. But I do think at least a few cursory lines about his solo releases are worth having in the America bio because so many America fans do follow his solo material as closely as they do Gerry's. I refrained from anything more than listing Electro Voice and Crossover, and briefly mentioned his resurgence with PEACE and then as a soloist in 1999. But I haven't spent any time on the details of any of those projects, as that would be best expanded upon in the Dan Peek article. Thoughts? Zevonsky 02:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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The following is unsourced information:
While this is all interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives ( talk) 05:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Chrisdus ( talk) 11:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Hi, would it be a nice addition to the America page to start including a tour dates section? Not only past concerts, but also future ones?
This article is wildly overstuffed and should be condensed by at least three-quarters. It remains full of unsourced statements and includes large amounts of material of interest only to obsessive fans. (The lineup of acts at the band's first concert? Chart position of a "Greatest Hits" album released 30 years after the group's heyday?) Moreover, breathless prose like "However, a fateful connection would provide a sudden and unexpected change in fortune ..." or "While America remained a hot ticket on the touring circuit..." does not belong in an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.107.100 ( talk) 18:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
The introduction, saying how many people wanted a clone, sounds extremely biased. Is this possibly cited somewhere or should this be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.195.129 ( talk) 05:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Just thought I'd ask Christian Roess ( talk) 22:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, I got some more information about how to handle the loss of the Dewey Bunnell article (as a stand-alone rather than as a REDIRECT). (And thanks again for your insight User:Hulmem and your help with the process of organizing my appeal).
And I did make an appeal. I made an appeal over at the WP:BLPN and you can access that over here. User:Active Banana contibuted over there at the BLP noticeboard and commented above. Will have to follow those suggestions. Also, another editor made some very friendly and useful comments on my talk page about what can be done. on my talk page here. So let me get hold of some resources and citations that will (hopefully) justify the restoration of the Dewey Bunnell page & get it back up so that it stays up. And FYI to any possible editors: Those comments on my talk page that I just mentioned and linked to are especially helpful. I'll see what I can do in the coming days (weeks) on my end to restore the article. Christian Roess ( talk) 00:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
The Band Members section needs to be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.169.151.249 ( talk) 19:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:America (band)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
There is a lot of good information here, but the article does not cite any sources, otherwise it would probably qualify for at least a GA(good article) status. - cgilbert( talk| contribs) 18:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 18:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article doesn't mention under the recent activity section that America was featured on Chicago's [ Christmas Three] album in 2011. The link provided gives info from that album. Don't know if that's important enough to mention in the article or not, so I'm not going to edit it in myself. Rather I'll let others decide if it's worth mentioning rather than editing it in and having someone else decide to edit it out as too trivial. -anonymous 5/23/2016 12:24 EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18B:0:9141:9022:E028:5F:FB4A ( talk) 04:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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What reason are the band categorised as " British-American" when all three are American ?
I understand that Lee Merton "Dewey" Bunnell was born in England to an English mum, but has he got British citizenship? Is the mere formality of having it enough to make a band that's called "America" and famous for it's American country sound even slightly British?
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05:13, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
"During the summer/fall of 1974, bassist Calvin "Fuzzy" Samuels (formerly of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Manassas) was called to fill in for Dickey, who had come to Europe but then flown home inadvertently."
He flew home without meaning to? What is this meant to say? Normally, I'd just fix it when I find a wildly incorrect use of a word, but I don't understand the context. Perhaps it means what it says, but then it should have more context. 128.151.71.7 ( talk) 12:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)