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Hyperdeath ( talk) 20:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed that article Kitchen chemistry be merged into this article. Hyperdeath ( talk) 21:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I have moved the old "kitchen chemistry" article to
List of commonly available chemicals.
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You merged, then subsequently someone removed the list of chemicals. THE NARCISSISM of wikipedia editors is unending. That list is why I came here, PUT IT BACK. Revert war impending, and I know how to subvert any weak lock you may employ. Put it back. —Preceding
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This article is clearly written from a U.S. perspective. While I don't have any references for adding a more global perspective, I think at least it would be a favor to readers to be more specific. For example, where is United Nuclear based, which Consumer Product Safety Commission the article is talking about, etc. I can say from experience that in Mexico it is much easier to get chemicals and equipment (at least 10 years ago, but I doubt it has changed much). I expect the same will be true for many countries. -- Itub ( talk) 09:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I have edited the article to address your concerns. I have made it clear that the United Nuclear incident happened in the US. I have also eliminated the implication that amateur chemists in every part of the world are affected. (I do, however, stand by the phrase "...hobbyists in many parts of the world..."). I have moved the globalise tag into the "Legal Issues" section, where I believe it is more appropriate.
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18:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
My view is that this article is something like original research and does not belong in Wikipedia. It is also advice-giving, which is also counter WE guidelines. Oh well, we have Britney Spears and Road signs in the Republic of Ireland.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 15:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Can you be more specific? (It's difficult to argue against vague generalities.) Also, what are these "other issues"? — Hyperdeath ( Talk) 18:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I've made an explicit division between the "gentleman chemist" and "hobbyist" paragraphs to remove the implication that they are directly connected. I have also moved the "procuring chemicals" section to the
list of commonly available chemicals section, and demoted the link to the "see also" section. Whilst I concede that the article is still slightly essay-ish, I don't believe that it constitutes original research. Also, with the "procuring chemicals" section gone, it can no longer be said to be "advice giving". —
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16:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Bethany Halford. Chemical & Engineering News, November 10, 2008, Volume 86, Number 45, pp. 38-40. Underground Science: Chemistry hobbyists face a labyrinth of local and state regulations. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/86/8645sci1.html (URL may require subscription?). A quote from the article:
In case anyone finds it useful as a reference. -- Itub ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
And
here's another depressing story. I must get around to adding them to the main article. —
Hyperdeath(
Talk)
21:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yet another depressing story —
Hyperdeath(
Talk)
23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I was looking for the Discovery series "Kitchen Chemistry" and ended up here... -- 77.109.212.174 ( talk) 00:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This page makes it sound like it is illegal to possess chemicals which are on the US DEA's List I or II of drug precursor chemicals. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that these lists primarily affect MANUFACTURERS and DISTRIBUTORS of these chemicals. Chemicals on those lists have reporting and record-keeping requirements (for the SELLER, not the possessor) as well as limits on the amount which can be sold to a single individual per year. I think this should be clarified by someone knowledgeable about this. Sbreheny ( talk) 06:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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I didn't find out, what is meant by “reportable”, could be that I might be dumb, but does it mean the sellers have to report anyone who buys magnesium powder for example, to local authorities? I am just really confused by what is exactly meant by this. XenogenesisX2 ( talk) 09:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hyperdeath ( talk) 20:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed that article Kitchen chemistry be merged into this article. Hyperdeath ( talk) 21:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I have moved the old "kitchen chemistry" article to
List of commonly available chemicals.
Hyperdeath (
talk)
20:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
You merged, then subsequently someone removed the list of chemicals. THE NARCISSISM of wikipedia editors is unending. That list is why I came here, PUT IT BACK. Revert war impending, and I know how to subvert any weak lock you may employ. Put it back. —Preceding
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16:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
This article is clearly written from a U.S. perspective. While I don't have any references for adding a more global perspective, I think at least it would be a favor to readers to be more specific. For example, where is United Nuclear based, which Consumer Product Safety Commission the article is talking about, etc. I can say from experience that in Mexico it is much easier to get chemicals and equipment (at least 10 years ago, but I doubt it has changed much). I expect the same will be true for many countries. -- Itub ( talk) 09:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I have edited the article to address your concerns. I have made it clear that the United Nuclear incident happened in the US. I have also eliminated the implication that amateur chemists in every part of the world are affected. (I do, however, stand by the phrase "...hobbyists in many parts of the world..."). I have moved the globalise tag into the "Legal Issues" section, where I believe it is more appropriate.
Hyperdeath (
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18:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
My view is that this article is something like original research and does not belong in Wikipedia. It is also advice-giving, which is also counter WE guidelines. Oh well, we have Britney Spears and Road signs in the Republic of Ireland.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 15:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Can you be more specific? (It's difficult to argue against vague generalities.) Also, what are these "other issues"? — Hyperdeath ( Talk) 18:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I've made an explicit division between the "gentleman chemist" and "hobbyist" paragraphs to remove the implication that they are directly connected. I have also moved the "procuring chemicals" section to the
list of commonly available chemicals section, and demoted the link to the "see also" section. Whilst I concede that the article is still slightly essay-ish, I don't believe that it constitutes original research. Also, with the "procuring chemicals" section gone, it can no longer be said to be "advice giving". —
Hyperdeath
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Talk)
16:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Bethany Halford. Chemical & Engineering News, November 10, 2008, Volume 86, Number 45, pp. 38-40. Underground Science: Chemistry hobbyists face a labyrinth of local and state regulations. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/86/8645sci1.html (URL may require subscription?). A quote from the article:
In case anyone finds it useful as a reference. -- Itub ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
And
here's another depressing story. I must get around to adding them to the main article. —
Hyperdeath(
Talk)
21:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yet another depressing story —
Hyperdeath(
Talk)
23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I was looking for the Discovery series "Kitchen Chemistry" and ended up here... -- 77.109.212.174 ( talk) 00:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This page makes it sound like it is illegal to possess chemicals which are on the US DEA's List I or II of drug precursor chemicals. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that these lists primarily affect MANUFACTURERS and DISTRIBUTORS of these chemicals. Chemicals on those lists have reporting and record-keeping requirements (for the SELLER, not the possessor) as well as limits on the amount which can be sold to a single individual per year. I think this should be clarified by someone knowledgeable about this. Sbreheny ( talk) 06:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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I didn't find out, what is meant by “reportable”, could be that I might be dumb, but does it mean the sellers have to report anyone who buys magnesium powder for example, to local authorities? I am just really confused by what is exactly meant by this. XenogenesisX2 ( talk) 09:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)