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An editor who I believe to be the subject's brother left the following note at Indians in Zambia:
If we can confirm more details about his family background from reliable sources (e.g. that they came from Gujarat, what professions they engage in, etc.) this would be nice to include in the article. I've left it on the talk page for now as I couldn't find anything besides Facebook postings and the like [1]. Cheers, cab ( call) 06:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Professor Zumla's origins can be found at http://www.mahek.co.uk/gwg/pdfs/BharuchiVahoraPatelEnglish.pdf (pg 96). His parent's place of birth is cited as Halderva,a village in Gujarat,India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoomie786 ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello @ Deb:. Please may you kindly review the edits by @ Melcous:. These include removal of legitimate awards from the information box list e.g Spinoza Leerstoel Award (which was properly referenced). And changing the perfectly true and referenced: In 2020, for the third year running, Sir Alimuddin was recognized by Clarivate Analytics, Web of Science as one of the world's top 1% most cited researchers. [1] [2] [3] to --> In 2020, Zumia was recognised by Clarivate Analytics, Web of Science as one of the world's top 1% most cited researchers.
@ I JethroBT (WMF): I would also like to note that it was my interaction with @ Melcous: that ultimately led to my over one year block. I also request that the Wikimedia Foundation also look into these edits. @ Melcous: mixes legitimate edits with vandalism, in my view. Ear-phone ( talk) 01:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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@ Melcous:, I've just looked at this, and although I can see that your main concern is enforcing NPOV, I can't see the reason for removing the word "Sir" from the opening sentence. The MOS makes it clear that this is optional and allowed, and it's very common, indeed quite normal, in the introductory sentence of an article. I'd request you to restore it unless you can give a better reason for removing it. Deb ( talk) 09:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Melcous, I was reviewing your changes to the page and wanted to ask more about these specific removals...and so forth. Eventually I expect I would have learned from them that the issue dealt with certain conventions over the infobox / lead conventions and I would have made appropriate suggestions or requests as Deb has already done. It's problematic to start a conversation like this with an open accusation of vandalism, because Melcous's edits clearly do not reflect an intent to disrupt the project, and were instead an issue of interpreting relevant guidelines. This happens all the time, and is not a cause for alarm. Framing stuations like this as vandalism makes it practically difficult to work productively together, so please be mindful and open that there are other reasons why certain edits are made.
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An editor who I believe to be the subject's brother left the following note at Indians in Zambia:
If we can confirm more details about his family background from reliable sources (e.g. that they came from Gujarat, what professions they engage in, etc.) this would be nice to include in the article. I've left it on the talk page for now as I couldn't find anything besides Facebook postings and the like [1]. Cheers, cab ( call) 06:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Professor Zumla's origins can be found at http://www.mahek.co.uk/gwg/pdfs/BharuchiVahoraPatelEnglish.pdf (pg 96). His parent's place of birth is cited as Halderva,a village in Gujarat,India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoomie786 ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello @ Deb:. Please may you kindly review the edits by @ Melcous:. These include removal of legitimate awards from the information box list e.g Spinoza Leerstoel Award (which was properly referenced). And changing the perfectly true and referenced: In 2020, for the third year running, Sir Alimuddin was recognized by Clarivate Analytics, Web of Science as one of the world's top 1% most cited researchers. [1] [2] [3] to --> In 2020, Zumia was recognised by Clarivate Analytics, Web of Science as one of the world's top 1% most cited researchers.
@ I JethroBT (WMF): I would also like to note that it was my interaction with @ Melcous: that ultimately led to my over one year block. I also request that the Wikimedia Foundation also look into these edits. @ Melcous: mixes legitimate edits with vandalism, in my view. Ear-phone ( talk) 01:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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@ Melcous:, I've just looked at this, and although I can see that your main concern is enforcing NPOV, I can't see the reason for removing the word "Sir" from the opening sentence. The MOS makes it clear that this is optional and allowed, and it's very common, indeed quite normal, in the introductory sentence of an article. I'd request you to restore it unless you can give a better reason for removing it. Deb ( talk) 09:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Melcous, I was reviewing your changes to the page and wanted to ask more about these specific removals...and so forth. Eventually I expect I would have learned from them that the issue dealt with certain conventions over the infobox / lead conventions and I would have made appropriate suggestions or requests as Deb has already done. It's problematic to start a conversation like this with an open accusation of vandalism, because Melcous's edits clearly do not reflect an intent to disrupt the project, and were instead an issue of interpreting relevant guidelines. This happens all the time, and is not a cause for alarm. Framing stuations like this as vandalism makes it practically difficult to work productively together, so please be mindful and open that there are other reasons why certain edits are made.