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When was this guy Premier of South Australia? Timeshift 03:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 08:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Alexander Downer, Sr. → Alec Downer – Most sources seem to refer to him by this name, including [1], [2], [3], [4], and most references in Hansard. Frickeg ( talk) 11:10, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
We now have him as "Sir Alexander" in the lede and further down the page, but "Sir Alec" in the infobox, reflecting the article name. We need to sort this out.
For my money, he was in the same camp as Killen, who was always "Jim" before his knighthood and always "Sir James" afterwards (never "Sir Jim"). Downer was "Alec" before knighthood and "Sir Alexander" afterwards (never "Sir Alec").
So, if that's true, what's the best name for the article? Killen is James Killen. Shouldn't this really be back at Alexander Downer, Sr.? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 07:40, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
On 12th June 2014, this article was moved from Alec Downer to Alick Downer.
The reason for this is because the spelling Alick is more widely used in documentation. Examples include his entry into the Australian Dictionary of Biography. In addition, Downer wrote an autobiographical book called The Downers of South Australia and the author on the book is Alick Downer. There is no mention of the spelling Alec.
I have had access to his archival collection at the Bob Hawke Prime Ministerial Library, and although I have not viewed every piece of the collection, I did not find anything with the spelling of Alec on it. This might be the typical spelling of the name, but I do not think it applies to Downer. All of the family documents I have viewed use the spelling Alick, and staff at the archive encourage use of this spelling.
Natasha from UniSA ( talk) 08:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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When was this guy Premier of South Australia? Timeshift 03:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 08:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Alexander Downer, Sr. → Alec Downer – Most sources seem to refer to him by this name, including [1], [2], [3], [4], and most references in Hansard. Frickeg ( talk) 11:10, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
We now have him as "Sir Alexander" in the lede and further down the page, but "Sir Alec" in the infobox, reflecting the article name. We need to sort this out.
For my money, he was in the same camp as Killen, who was always "Jim" before his knighthood and always "Sir James" afterwards (never "Sir Jim"). Downer was "Alec" before knighthood and "Sir Alexander" afterwards (never "Sir Alec").
So, if that's true, what's the best name for the article? Killen is James Killen. Shouldn't this really be back at Alexander Downer, Sr.? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 07:40, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
On 12th June 2014, this article was moved from Alec Downer to Alick Downer.
The reason for this is because the spelling Alick is more widely used in documentation. Examples include his entry into the Australian Dictionary of Biography. In addition, Downer wrote an autobiographical book called The Downers of South Australia and the author on the book is Alick Downer. There is no mention of the spelling Alec.
I have had access to his archival collection at the Bob Hawke Prime Ministerial Library, and although I have not viewed every piece of the collection, I did not find anything with the spelling of Alec on it. This might be the typical spelling of the name, but I do not think it applies to Downer. All of the family documents I have viewed use the spelling Alick, and staff at the archive encourage use of this spelling.
Natasha from UniSA ( talk) 08:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)