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The band "Alice Cooper" deserves a separate article, this has been discussed before, and most users have been in favor, but it never happened! Charles Essie ( talk) 18:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
whadd'ya think of goofy george now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.247.53 ( talk) 02:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Some of the text sounds like it was lifted from a fan magazine.... PurpleChez ( talk) 22:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm surprised to not reading mention of Arthur Brown ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Brown_(musician)), in the influences to the young Alice Cooper (idea of the Shock Rock). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.115.199.83 ( talk) 05:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Alice could not perform on his last date of the tour, in Toronto, and fans were told of this at the concert. A major riot ensued. Details of that are captured in a Youtube video with J.D. Roberts reporting. At the end of the video Alice explains why he could not perform and that he was there with makeup on before cancelling.
JHolicky ( talk) 06:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I've listened to Alice for most of my life and I have to ask, why does it say he's glam rock? After all, yeah he has the costume and stuff, but if anything, he's glam metal, since he has that sound, like in poison. The song poison is glam metal. The guitar players have the poofy blonde hair, alice has all this makeup on and the sound is very much metal with pop influence. Also, is alice cooper extreme metal? I know the song brutal planet has a very loud sound and Feed my Frankenstein sounds like groove metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.197.131 ( talk) 02:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I have generalized the genres to hard rock and heavy metal. There is no need for the other sub genres, the amount is above how much the template recommends and other genres are mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistymountain546 ( talk • contribs)
These are all the genres that he is categorized as, that is referenced. From these, I think the 4 genres should be shock rock, hard rock, heavy metal and glam rock. Add more reliable references, so far:
Heavy metal:
Hard rock:
Glam rock:
Shock rock:
Glam metal:
Garage rock:
Hi just to let you know Alice cooper played "harmonica" as well Adam bendelow ( talk) 16:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
On the first album he did Adam bendelow ( talk) 16:58, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Alice was arrested in Brazil for "wiping is arse with the American Flag" in 77 or 78. Why is there no mention of this?
Apparently Brazilian authorities were more concerned that he would do the show the next night with a Brazilian Flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.52.114 ( talk) 18:11, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Why no mention of his restaurant?
Even though it just closed after a near 20-year run, it should be mentioned. 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D ( talk) 20:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
[[:File:Mae West speech after "Sextette" opening 1978.jpg|thumb|Cooper (second from right) laughs at Mae West's words after the opening of her last movie in 1978.]] I believe this should be reverted to reinstate this image which adds quality to the article in my opinion. The fact that Cooper was in that movie was quite a sensation, and free photos from that period of him, as of Mae West, are extremely rare. Since I apparently am considered a COI because I know the person who took this, I cannot do it myself, but I invite the opinions and/or action of neutral users. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 15:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Again, I invite the opinions and/or action of neutral users here. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 10:04, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Dennis Dunaway, although mentioned in one of the first paragraphs, is not listed as a band member in the designated part near the end.
72.69.161.2 ( talk) 14:03, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
To add to this article (in order that it be properly encyclopedic): information about Cooper's ethnic heritage. One website states that he has French Huguenot, Sioux Native American, English, Scottish, and Irish ancestry. In an interview, Cooper has said: "My dad's side was Sioux and my mom's side was Cherokee." 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 03:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
The first Furnier in that line was a Davide Fournier, a native Frenchman who emigrated to Maryland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF2E:7D00:9D56:E1EC:4070:5127 ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Solo band member somewhere until 2003? 86.115.97.136 ( talk) 00:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Does it rhyme with "fire", "beer" or something else? - Immigrant laborer ( talk) 15:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Furn E-A, Joe Vitale 5 ( talk) 00:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Whether Alice Cooper is the opposite of an LGBTQ+ ally is a thing that matters to many. Before I get started trying to NPOV-edit-in one, is there a reason this "controversy" section should not be added? 68.188.119.174 ( talk) 15:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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The band "Alice Cooper" deserves a separate article, this has been discussed before, and most users have been in favor, but it never happened! Charles Essie ( talk) 18:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
whadd'ya think of goofy george now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.247.53 ( talk) 02:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Some of the text sounds like it was lifted from a fan magazine.... PurpleChez ( talk) 22:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm surprised to not reading mention of Arthur Brown ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Brown_(musician)), in the influences to the young Alice Cooper (idea of the Shock Rock). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.115.199.83 ( talk) 05:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Alice could not perform on his last date of the tour, in Toronto, and fans were told of this at the concert. A major riot ensued. Details of that are captured in a Youtube video with J.D. Roberts reporting. At the end of the video Alice explains why he could not perform and that he was there with makeup on before cancelling.
JHolicky ( talk) 06:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I've listened to Alice for most of my life and I have to ask, why does it say he's glam rock? After all, yeah he has the costume and stuff, but if anything, he's glam metal, since he has that sound, like in poison. The song poison is glam metal. The guitar players have the poofy blonde hair, alice has all this makeup on and the sound is very much metal with pop influence. Also, is alice cooper extreme metal? I know the song brutal planet has a very loud sound and Feed my Frankenstein sounds like groove metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.197.131 ( talk) 02:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I have generalized the genres to hard rock and heavy metal. There is no need for the other sub genres, the amount is above how much the template recommends and other genres are mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistymountain546 ( talk • contribs)
These are all the genres that he is categorized as, that is referenced. From these, I think the 4 genres should be shock rock, hard rock, heavy metal and glam rock. Add more reliable references, so far:
Heavy metal:
Hard rock:
Glam rock:
Shock rock:
Glam metal:
Garage rock:
Hi just to let you know Alice cooper played "harmonica" as well Adam bendelow ( talk) 16:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
On the first album he did Adam bendelow ( talk) 16:58, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Alice was arrested in Brazil for "wiping is arse with the American Flag" in 77 or 78. Why is there no mention of this?
Apparently Brazilian authorities were more concerned that he would do the show the next night with a Brazilian Flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.52.114 ( talk) 18:11, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Why no mention of his restaurant?
Even though it just closed after a near 20-year run, it should be mentioned. 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D ( talk) 20:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
[[:File:Mae West speech after "Sextette" opening 1978.jpg|thumb|Cooper (second from right) laughs at Mae West's words after the opening of her last movie in 1978.]] I believe this should be reverted to reinstate this image which adds quality to the article in my opinion. The fact that Cooper was in that movie was quite a sensation, and free photos from that period of him, as of Mae West, are extremely rare. Since I apparently am considered a COI because I know the person who took this, I cannot do it myself, but I invite the opinions and/or action of neutral users. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 15:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Again, I invite the opinions and/or action of neutral users here. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 10:04, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Dennis Dunaway, although mentioned in one of the first paragraphs, is not listed as a band member in the designated part near the end.
72.69.161.2 ( talk) 14:03, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
To add to this article (in order that it be properly encyclopedic): information about Cooper's ethnic heritage. One website states that he has French Huguenot, Sioux Native American, English, Scottish, and Irish ancestry. In an interview, Cooper has said: "My dad's side was Sioux and my mom's side was Cherokee." 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 03:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
The first Furnier in that line was a Davide Fournier, a native Frenchman who emigrated to Maryland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF2E:7D00:9D56:E1EC:4070:5127 ( talk) 22:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Solo band member somewhere until 2003? 86.115.97.136 ( talk) 00:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Does it rhyme with "fire", "beer" or something else? - Immigrant laborer ( talk) 15:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Furn E-A, Joe Vitale 5 ( talk) 00:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Whether Alice Cooper is the opposite of an LGBTQ+ ally is a thing that matters to many. Before I get started trying to NPOV-edit-in one, is there a reason this "controversy" section should not be added? 68.188.119.174 ( talk) 15:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)