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His wisdom was of "sulphuric quality"? What the hell does that mean?
So, did this motherfucker have a father? What's up? -- Sean Gray 04:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Blackmore's Night performs a song titled "Fires at Midnight" (on the album of the same name) and introduce it on a live album (Past Times and Good Company) by saying the song was written by Alfonso X. Not sure if that's enough of a cite to merit inclusion. Aapold 06:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I undoned that he was the "King of Germany" because he was only the King of Galicia, Castile and León. The title "King of the Romans" could be hold by a King who was not King of Germany (as this is the case). --
Anna Lincoln
10:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Image of Christian and Muslim playing ouds, miniature from Catinas de Santa Maria by king Alfonso X. Feel free to insert this image into the article. Phg ( talk) 20:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello all, I'm just wondering why the Sephardic song is included under "links". I think it's unrelated, and the claim the website makes about the text being from Alfonso's time is unsubstantiated...Should it be removed? Eulogius2 ( talk) 21:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The first paragraph of this page states that one of Alfonso's nicknames was "el Astrólogo", which is translated as "the Astronomer". It really means "the Astrologer" (obviously). Lily20 ( talk) 21:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Took out the nonsense about him founding a university in Toledo, Ohio. As far as I know, Alfonso X didn't found any universities. Afdoug ( talk) 23:27, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I added an ancestry box which is commonly founded on all articles about monarchs and royals, including nearly all of Alfonso's predecessors and successors as King of Castile and Spain that followed, not to mention nearly all the articles on British and English royalty have ancestry boxes. User:Srnec removed it and I contest his removal. I would understand the removal if the article is too short or the ancestry is fragmented or some ancestors are dubious/non-notable but neither of these are the case. He just doesn't like the look of it, which is his own opinion. Here is what I said "Unless you have an argument that uniformly remove all ancestry boxes from every article on wikipedia or you come up with a consensus against the use of ancestry boxes in this and other articles, supported by others, I [won't] support this". Srnec said "because we don't need these things at all, there are better ways" and "for years nobody saw a need for this, so I'm removing the ancestry table: take it to the talk page, since you are the one adding unsourced information". To this, I would say I will give you twenty-nine different sources for each ancestor. If he wants to challenge something that "for years nobody saw a need for", he needs to do his part in challenging it and uniformly remove all ancestry boxes from wikipedia. So unless Srnec do this, I see no reason why Alfonso X of Castile deserves to be an exception. If not, I will revert his edit and include citations for it, seeing as how that is the only legitimate argument on his part. -- Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy ( talk) 04:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
In the "Military Training" section it says: "In 1321 Alfonso traveled with Pérez de Castron on a military campaign in lower Andalusia.". His year of death is listed as 1284. What gives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.151.8 ( talk) 23:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The Spanish article is at the equivalent namespace but doesn't seem supported by any of its sources, which use "Alfonso X the Wise" or "Alfonso X of Castile and Leon".
This name certainly seems wrong: He was the 9th or 10th Alfonso of Leon and the 4th or 5th Alfonso of Castile, depending on whether or not you count Alfonso I of Aragon as a Leonnese and Castilian king. For some reason, we count Alfonso VII of León as if the king of Aragon doesn't count, then skip "VIII" to get to Alfonso IX of León and this guy, who are both numbered as if the Aragonese king did count.
I know things get murky because of the way Spanish monarchs played musical chairs with their kingdoms: "Alfonso I", "II", and "III" of Leon were actually kings of Asturias who got grandfathered in when the Leonnese kingdom started up. The 9th edition of the Britannica numbered the Castilian "Alphonses" separately; the 11th edition, which I guess is what we're following, lumps in Galicia, Leon, and Castile as "Spanish" kings, ignores Alfonso of Aragon, but then adds a Castilian king into the Leonnese list.
This might be the accepted way to do all this, given how the modern Spanish monarchs have numbered themselves, but without a move to Alfonso X of Leon and Castile we should at least have a name section to help clarify what's going on. — LlywelynII 01:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
One mention of the Cantigas is followed by "XII A.C." What does this mean? It can't be the 12th century before Christ. Kotabatubara ( talk) 23:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I just edited a sentence to make clearer the apparent division of opinion about his qualities as a practical ruler. On the whole though I'd say the detail presented in this section needs more citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:86B:4A00:19AF:51C:63CD:347F ( talk) 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 07:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Alfonso X of Castile → Alfonso X – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCROY. 49.150.12.134 ( talk) 05:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Alfonso VII of León and Castile which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
The main article says he was “king… from 30 May 1252 until his death in 1284,” yet the infobox says from June 1, 1252, which is two days after. As the Alfonsine tables created in his honor mention June 1, this should be the right date. Consequently, I’m changing the main article to reflect the infobox.
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On 23 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Alfonso X. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
On 2 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Alfonso X. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
His wisdom was of "sulphuric quality"? What the hell does that mean?
So, did this motherfucker have a father? What's up? -- Sean Gray 04:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Blackmore's Night performs a song titled "Fires at Midnight" (on the album of the same name) and introduce it on a live album (Past Times and Good Company) by saying the song was written by Alfonso X. Not sure if that's enough of a cite to merit inclusion. Aapold 06:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I undoned that he was the "King of Germany" because he was only the King of Galicia, Castile and León. The title "King of the Romans" could be hold by a King who was not King of Germany (as this is the case). --
Anna Lincoln
10:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Image of Christian and Muslim playing ouds, miniature from Catinas de Santa Maria by king Alfonso X. Feel free to insert this image into the article. Phg ( talk) 20:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello all, I'm just wondering why the Sephardic song is included under "links". I think it's unrelated, and the claim the website makes about the text being from Alfonso's time is unsubstantiated...Should it be removed? Eulogius2 ( talk) 21:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The first paragraph of this page states that one of Alfonso's nicknames was "el Astrólogo", which is translated as "the Astronomer". It really means "the Astrologer" (obviously). Lily20 ( talk) 21:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Took out the nonsense about him founding a university in Toledo, Ohio. As far as I know, Alfonso X didn't found any universities. Afdoug ( talk) 23:27, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I added an ancestry box which is commonly founded on all articles about monarchs and royals, including nearly all of Alfonso's predecessors and successors as King of Castile and Spain that followed, not to mention nearly all the articles on British and English royalty have ancestry boxes. User:Srnec removed it and I contest his removal. I would understand the removal if the article is too short or the ancestry is fragmented or some ancestors are dubious/non-notable but neither of these are the case. He just doesn't like the look of it, which is his own opinion. Here is what I said "Unless you have an argument that uniformly remove all ancestry boxes from every article on wikipedia or you come up with a consensus against the use of ancestry boxes in this and other articles, supported by others, I [won't] support this". Srnec said "because we don't need these things at all, there are better ways" and "for years nobody saw a need for this, so I'm removing the ancestry table: take it to the talk page, since you are the one adding unsourced information". To this, I would say I will give you twenty-nine different sources for each ancestor. If he wants to challenge something that "for years nobody saw a need for", he needs to do his part in challenging it and uniformly remove all ancestry boxes from wikipedia. So unless Srnec do this, I see no reason why Alfonso X of Castile deserves to be an exception. If not, I will revert his edit and include citations for it, seeing as how that is the only legitimate argument on his part. -- Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy ( talk) 04:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
In the "Military Training" section it says: "In 1321 Alfonso traveled with Pérez de Castron on a military campaign in lower Andalusia.". His year of death is listed as 1284. What gives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.151.8 ( talk) 23:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The Spanish article is at the equivalent namespace but doesn't seem supported by any of its sources, which use "Alfonso X the Wise" or "Alfonso X of Castile and Leon".
This name certainly seems wrong: He was the 9th or 10th Alfonso of Leon and the 4th or 5th Alfonso of Castile, depending on whether or not you count Alfonso I of Aragon as a Leonnese and Castilian king. For some reason, we count Alfonso VII of León as if the king of Aragon doesn't count, then skip "VIII" to get to Alfonso IX of León and this guy, who are both numbered as if the Aragonese king did count.
I know things get murky because of the way Spanish monarchs played musical chairs with their kingdoms: "Alfonso I", "II", and "III" of Leon were actually kings of Asturias who got grandfathered in when the Leonnese kingdom started up. The 9th edition of the Britannica numbered the Castilian "Alphonses" separately; the 11th edition, which I guess is what we're following, lumps in Galicia, Leon, and Castile as "Spanish" kings, ignores Alfonso of Aragon, but then adds a Castilian king into the Leonnese list.
This might be the accepted way to do all this, given how the modern Spanish monarchs have numbered themselves, but without a move to Alfonso X of Leon and Castile we should at least have a name section to help clarify what's going on. — LlywelynII 01:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
One mention of the Cantigas is followed by "XII A.C." What does this mean? It can't be the 12th century before Christ. Kotabatubara ( talk) 23:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I just edited a sentence to make clearer the apparent division of opinion about his qualities as a practical ruler. On the whole though I'd say the detail presented in this section needs more citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:86B:4A00:19AF:51C:63CD:347F ( talk) 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 07:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Alfonso X of Castile → Alfonso X – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCROY. 49.150.12.134 ( talk) 05:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Alfonso VII of León and Castile which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
The main article says he was “king… from 30 May 1252 until his death in 1284,” yet the infobox says from June 1, 1252, which is two days after. As the Alfonsine tables created in his honor mention June 1, this should be the right date. Consequently, I’m changing the main article to reflect the infobox.