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I am not sure of the place of accent in Domontovich. Any ideas? — Monedula
I found two links to Mikhail Domontovich's involvement in Bulgaria (and it's constitution). These do not need to go in to the Kollontai article. The primary source is Kollontai's memoirs. (in Finnish :-( -- Petri Krohn 04:45, 25 October 2005
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IP, please make your case for adding information mentioned with attribution to a family biography in interaffairs. The article is currently written from the basis of several biographies by established academics, so if they make no mention of it it's probably not WP:DUE. signed, Rosguill talk 00:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
You reverted not to pre-dispute status quo but to a version which erases her progenitor that was already there pre-dispute; either this is oversight on your part or deliberate; furthermore, I've just noticed that the subject is nee Domontovich, meaning your edit is obscuring the very origin of her surname (Domont, Daumantas, whatever the spelling)).
Воспоминания внука об Александре Михайловне Коллонтай –, "the memoirs of Alexandra Kollontai's nephew". This is not information that is independent of Kollontai, and is not due on this basis. Find me a historian that makes this claim and I will have no problem including it. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
151.11.216.130 ( talk) 11:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
How do I edit this out without breaking the rule of not being allowed to remove parts of quotes: "She was the only woman other than Maria Spiridonova to play a prominent role during the Russian Revolution"? It does not show up as a quote when I edit it, I also did not realize that removing part of a quote while keeping the citation in tact was a cause for concern, apologies. There were many women involved in the Russian Revolution, even if they did not play as prominent of a role as being the first woman in the cabinet. I think this statement is unnecessarily reductive and does not tell the truth about the role of women in the Russian Revolution, see Women in the Russian Revolution for starters. EmSim15 ( talk) 23:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The first woman to become Cabinet Minister was the Dane, Nina Bang, who became Minister of Education in 1924, contrary to the other sources crediting Kollontai as first woman cabinet minister. Cross referencing with the rest of the biography, it seems that Kollontai was appointed in August 1924, so it is plausible that Bang was appointed a few weeks or months earlier; at the moment I'm not sure how we should reconcile the competing claims from various sources, as there's essentially no middle ground between the claims. signed, Rosguill talk 15:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
It would probably also be necessary to check the immediately following statement that "In 1919, Kollontai founded the Zhenotdel". I do not know the history of this department, but the related article states that it "was established by two Russian feminist revolutionaries, Alexandra Kollontai and Inessa Armand, in 1919", the latter being the first leader until her death in 1920.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 09:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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I am not sure of the place of accent in Domontovich. Any ideas? — Monedula
I found two links to Mikhail Domontovich's involvement in Bulgaria (and it's constitution). These do not need to go in to the Kollontai article. The primary source is Kollontai's memoirs. (in Finnish :-( -- Petri Krohn 04:45, 25 October 2005
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IP, please make your case for adding information mentioned with attribution to a family biography in interaffairs. The article is currently written from the basis of several biographies by established academics, so if they make no mention of it it's probably not WP:DUE. signed, Rosguill talk 00:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
You reverted not to pre-dispute status quo but to a version which erases her progenitor that was already there pre-dispute; either this is oversight on your part or deliberate; furthermore, I've just noticed that the subject is nee Domontovich, meaning your edit is obscuring the very origin of her surname (Domont, Daumantas, whatever the spelling)).
Воспоминания внука об Александре Михайловне Коллонтай –, "the memoirs of Alexandra Kollontai's nephew". This is not information that is independent of Kollontai, and is not due on this basis. Find me a historian that makes this claim and I will have no problem including it. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
151.11.216.130 ( talk) 11:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
How do I edit this out without breaking the rule of not being allowed to remove parts of quotes: "She was the only woman other than Maria Spiridonova to play a prominent role during the Russian Revolution"? It does not show up as a quote when I edit it, I also did not realize that removing part of a quote while keeping the citation in tact was a cause for concern, apologies. There were many women involved in the Russian Revolution, even if they did not play as prominent of a role as being the first woman in the cabinet. I think this statement is unnecessarily reductive and does not tell the truth about the role of women in the Russian Revolution, see Women in the Russian Revolution for starters. EmSim15 ( talk) 23:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The first woman to become Cabinet Minister was the Dane, Nina Bang, who became Minister of Education in 1924, contrary to the other sources crediting Kollontai as first woman cabinet minister. Cross referencing with the rest of the biography, it seems that Kollontai was appointed in August 1924, so it is plausible that Bang was appointed a few weeks or months earlier; at the moment I'm not sure how we should reconcile the competing claims from various sources, as there's essentially no middle ground between the claims. signed, Rosguill talk 15:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
It would probably also be necessary to check the immediately following statement that "In 1919, Kollontai founded the Zhenotdel". I do not know the history of this department, but the related article states that it "was established by two Russian feminist revolutionaries, Alexandra Kollontai and Inessa Armand, in 1919", the latter being the first leader until her death in 1920.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 09:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)