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Couldn't we move this to Alexander I of Greece? That's a natural disambiguator, unlike the annoying parentheses. john k 00:19, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be just Alexander of Greece. To my knowledge, there has not been an Alexander II. Prsgoddess187 18:15, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Ahm, it is true that per NC he could be without the ordinal, BUT in this case it means some other ambiguity, and therefore the ordinal is helpful. I oppose moving this for now. Arrigo 09:58, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
What is the ambiguity? Just curious, not trying to start a war. I am not opposed to keeping the page here, just wondering which title is correct. Prsgoddess187 00:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Kindly check thew page Alexander of Greece (to which you actually referred above), there you see already some ambiguity. Arrigo 16:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I see your point, maybe at some time in the future, there will be a different way to title this page. Prsgoddess187 19:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles), the ordinal for single monarchs of that name should only be used when the ordinal was in official use. For the page to be at "Alexander I of Greece" we would need a source showing that that was the official style used by Alexander. If the disambiguator "(king)" is thought insufficiently distinctive then maybe "(modern king)" could be used? DrKiernan ( talk) 08:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Birth
"He was born on 1 August 1893 (21 July O.S.) at Tatoi near Athens ..."
Death
When he died in 1920, Greece was still using the Julian calendar. It didn't switch to the Gregorian till 23 March 1924. We need to clarify whether "25 October 1920" was a Julian date or a Gregorian date. --
JackofOz (
talk)
09:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv ( talk) 09:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Alexander of Greece (king) → Alexander of Greece — This follows from the move of the rhetorician to Alexander Numenius, in retrospect they should really have been dealt with together. If moved this article should have a hatnote to Alexander of Greece (disambiguation). PatGallacher ( talk) 00:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move per request per unanimous support.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Alexander of Greece (king) → Alexander of Greece — Following discussion at Talk:Alexander of Greece, there is some feeling for re-opening this discussion. No other person is widely known as Alexander of Greece. PatGallacher ( talk) 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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The "Coronation" section says his accession was virtually secret, only three people attended, and that there were no festivities. That is totally at odds with this image of the event. DrKiernan ( talk) 21:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's worth mentioning (or where it would go), as they were both born after Alexander's death, but it could be noted that Alexander was both the second cousin once removed of Queen Elizabeth II and the first cousin of her husband Prince Philip. It might increase the subject's relevance to a current reader. MisfitToys ( talk) 19:23, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
DrKay cleared my revisions. Stating that " too bias: please either use both Greek and Turkish sources or sources not from either country; language far too prejudiced" I would appreciate if he/she clarifies the below written source is "both Greek and Turkish" or "from either country". 'Kargakos, Sarantos I. (2000). Αλεξανδρούπολη: Μια νέα πόλη με παλιά ιστορία [Alexandroupoli: A New City with an Old History] (in Greek). Athens: Privately printed. OCLC 47927958' I would be delighted to know what made DrKay think that my language is "far too prejediced". If the word "invade" disturbes him/her the below written sentence taken from the same paragraph also includes it. "Despite their territorial gains following the Paris Peace Conference, the Greeks still hoped to achieve the Megali Idea and annex Constantinople and larger areas of Ottoman Asia Minor; they invaded Anatolia beyond Smyrna and sought to take Ankara, with the aim of destroying the Turkish resistance led by Mustafa Kemal (later known as Atatürk).[31]
I regret to say that if DrKay does not give proper explanation he/she damages principles unbiasedness. If a Greek source/referance "Kargakos, Sarantos" is well accepted in this article why not a Turkish source/referance is not accepted. Finally I added and information, which do not defend or accuse any nation. It just gives a detail which has not been placed in Greek or British sources but only in Turkish media in that period.
Cem Altınel ( talk) 18:46, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
The photo of "Alexander entering Adrianople, 1920" is also a proof of my contribution which already exists in the article.
Cem Altınel ( talk) 19:04, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Soon after completion of East Thrace’s invasion by the Greeks (25 July 1920), Alexander organised a visit to conquered places with an accompanying battalion. First he came to Edirne (Adrinople) then via Kırklareli (Kırkkilise) to Midye. Finally he travelled from Gelibolu to İzmir (Symrna) and returned to Athens with Greek cruiser Georgios Averof. [1] [2] [3]
It contains good info, my only concern is that this might be original research.-- Greece666 ( talk) 00:41, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Couldn't we move this to Alexander I of Greece? That's a natural disambiguator, unlike the annoying parentheses. john k 00:19, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be just Alexander of Greece. To my knowledge, there has not been an Alexander II. Prsgoddess187 18:15, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Ahm, it is true that per NC he could be without the ordinal, BUT in this case it means some other ambiguity, and therefore the ordinal is helpful. I oppose moving this for now. Arrigo 09:58, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
What is the ambiguity? Just curious, not trying to start a war. I am not opposed to keeping the page here, just wondering which title is correct. Prsgoddess187 00:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Kindly check thew page Alexander of Greece (to which you actually referred above), there you see already some ambiguity. Arrigo 16:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I see your point, maybe at some time in the future, there will be a different way to title this page. Prsgoddess187 19:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles), the ordinal for single monarchs of that name should only be used when the ordinal was in official use. For the page to be at "Alexander I of Greece" we would need a source showing that that was the official style used by Alexander. If the disambiguator "(king)" is thought insufficiently distinctive then maybe "(modern king)" could be used? DrKiernan ( talk) 08:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Birth
"He was born on 1 August 1893 (21 July O.S.) at Tatoi near Athens ..."
Death
When he died in 1920, Greece was still using the Julian calendar. It didn't switch to the Gregorian till 23 March 1924. We need to clarify whether "25 October 1920" was a Julian date or a Gregorian date. --
JackofOz (
talk)
09:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv ( talk) 09:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Alexander of Greece (king) → Alexander of Greece — This follows from the move of the rhetorician to Alexander Numenius, in retrospect they should really have been dealt with together. If moved this article should have a hatnote to Alexander of Greece (disambiguation). PatGallacher ( talk) 00:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move per request per unanimous support.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Alexander of Greece (king) → Alexander of Greece — Following discussion at Talk:Alexander of Greece, there is some feeling for re-opening this discussion. No other person is widely known as Alexander of Greece. PatGallacher ( talk) 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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File:Greek 30 Drachma coin 1863.JPG, has been nominated for deletion at
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To take part in any discussion, or to review a more detailed deletion rationale please visit the relevant image page (File:Greek 30 Drachma coin 1863.JPG) This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image -- CommonsNotificationBot ( talk) 20:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC) |
The "Coronation" section says his accession was virtually secret, only three people attended, and that there were no festivities. That is totally at odds with this image of the event. DrKiernan ( talk) 21:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's worth mentioning (or where it would go), as they were both born after Alexander's death, but it could be noted that Alexander was both the second cousin once removed of Queen Elizabeth II and the first cousin of her husband Prince Philip. It might increase the subject's relevance to a current reader. MisfitToys ( talk) 19:23, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
DrKay cleared my revisions. Stating that " too bias: please either use both Greek and Turkish sources or sources not from either country; language far too prejudiced" I would appreciate if he/she clarifies the below written source is "both Greek and Turkish" or "from either country". 'Kargakos, Sarantos I. (2000). Αλεξανδρούπολη: Μια νέα πόλη με παλιά ιστορία [Alexandroupoli: A New City with an Old History] (in Greek). Athens: Privately printed. OCLC 47927958' I would be delighted to know what made DrKay think that my language is "far too prejediced". If the word "invade" disturbes him/her the below written sentence taken from the same paragraph also includes it. "Despite their territorial gains following the Paris Peace Conference, the Greeks still hoped to achieve the Megali Idea and annex Constantinople and larger areas of Ottoman Asia Minor; they invaded Anatolia beyond Smyrna and sought to take Ankara, with the aim of destroying the Turkish resistance led by Mustafa Kemal (later known as Atatürk).[31]
I regret to say that if DrKay does not give proper explanation he/she damages principles unbiasedness. If a Greek source/referance "Kargakos, Sarantos" is well accepted in this article why not a Turkish source/referance is not accepted. Finally I added and information, which do not defend or accuse any nation. It just gives a detail which has not been placed in Greek or British sources but only in Turkish media in that period.
Cem Altınel ( talk) 18:46, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
The photo of "Alexander entering Adrianople, 1920" is also a proof of my contribution which already exists in the article.
Cem Altınel ( talk) 19:04, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Soon after completion of East Thrace’s invasion by the Greeks (25 July 1920), Alexander organised a visit to conquered places with an accompanying battalion. First he came to Edirne (Adrinople) then via Kırklareli (Kırkkilise) to Midye. Finally he travelled from Gelibolu to İzmir (Symrna) and returned to Athens with Greek cruiser Georgios Averof. [1] [2] [3]
It contains good info, my only concern is that this might be original research.-- Greece666 ( talk) 00:41, 18 August 2019 (UTC)