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I think "Al-Ahli Anglican Hospital Massacre" would be more accurate title. Ras al Ghoul ( talk) 20:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Documentation has been released proving the explosion was caused by a failed rocket launch. The launch was carried out by the Al-Quds Brigades of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Pacifico ( talk) 21:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
also known as Baptist Hospital (المستشفى المعمداني) source, same as [1] and [2]. 2A02:908:4E3:9520:2DD6:5A91:8C14:31D0 ( talk) 23:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
The source with the title "Anglican hospital among facilities struggling to respond to growing humanitarian crisis in Gaza" was mentioned twice separately in which they should be merged. 2A02:908:4E3:9520:2DD6:5A91:8C14:31D0 ( talk) 23:22, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
It is widely known as Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. 46.31.112.221 ( talk) 07:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be little to no coverage of the incident that took place on Oct 14th at the cancer treatment center. The article suggested Israeli rockets impacted the facility, but the source was the Anglican News, which while questionable as a primary source in its own right, gives no evidence for why it is able to ascribe blame to Israel for the rocket impact. Given the rapidly changing ground situation and the fact that the second explosion is likely to overshadow the incident; i am not sure there will ever be an investigation into this relatively small event, but until such a time comes as there is evidence showing that the rocket was fired by either side, I think it is safer to use neutral language to avoid incorrectly ascribing blame to one party or the other. Mrathel ( talk) 12:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Al Jazeera shouldn’t be used as a source going forward. Its reporting on this was very inaccurate and effectively Hamas propaganda. 2601:100:827F:6F0:3D73:BA3C:DBB6:C94E ( talk) 13:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Any idea what type of error is causing the ahli to be in small letter in the title? Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
In Arabic the name means the "Civil Arab Hospital", despite the faulty translation from the American church friends website. Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
please fix it :D 2804:14D:5C32:4673:7E56:A3A0:CB5D:7CAD ( talk) 21:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please change "This explosion led to the deaths of 200–500 Palestinians and the injury of more than 600 others, according to preliminary tolls by the Palestinian Ministry of Health." to "According to preliminary tolls by the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, this explosion led to the deaths of 200-500 Palestinians and the injury of more than 600 others." in order to better reflect the biases of involved sources and insure greater impartiality, as well as making phrasing more similar to wording in paragraph three of <ref> /info/en/?search=Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion<ref> . If required, add <ref> https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-biden-rafah-e062825a375d9eb62e95509cab95b80c<ref> as source for Hamas-Gaza Health Ministry connection. Thanks. 2001:8003:E037:FB01:500F:8899:E666:3BBE ( talk) 06:54, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please update the "2023 Israel–Hamas war" section to include events from November and December. Further history is already included in the Wikipedia article "Attacks on health facilities during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war." Please see below or suggested text taken from Wikipedia:
"On 18 December, the al-Ahli Arab Hospital was attacked by Israeli soldiers, with displaced people forced out and two doctors arrested (see "Israeli forces attack al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City: Medical sources". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 19 December 2023). The following day, the al-Ahli Hospital director stated Israeli troops arrested doctors, patients, and medical staff, partially destroyed the building's grounds, leaving the hospital unable to receive patients. Four people from the 18 December attacks on the hospital died (see "Gaza Hospital Out Of Action After Israeli Army Assault: Director". Barron's. Agence France Presse. Retrieved 20 December 2023)."
Other potential source regarding the 18 December attack: https://www.emro.who.int/media/news/opening-remarks-un-palais-briefing-21-december-2023.html
Thank you for keeping Wikipedia up with the recent history of the facility. Maroo530 ( talk) 22:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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I think "Al-Ahli Anglican Hospital Massacre" would be more accurate title. Ras al Ghoul ( talk) 20:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Documentation has been released proving the explosion was caused by a failed rocket launch. The launch was carried out by the Al-Quds Brigades of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Pacifico ( talk) 21:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
also known as Baptist Hospital (المستشفى المعمداني) source, same as [1] and [2]. 2A02:908:4E3:9520:2DD6:5A91:8C14:31D0 ( talk) 23:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
The source with the title "Anglican hospital among facilities struggling to respond to growing humanitarian crisis in Gaza" was mentioned twice separately in which they should be merged. 2A02:908:4E3:9520:2DD6:5A91:8C14:31D0 ( talk) 23:22, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
It is widely known as Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. 46.31.112.221 ( talk) 07:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be little to no coverage of the incident that took place on Oct 14th at the cancer treatment center. The article suggested Israeli rockets impacted the facility, but the source was the Anglican News, which while questionable as a primary source in its own right, gives no evidence for why it is able to ascribe blame to Israel for the rocket impact. Given the rapidly changing ground situation and the fact that the second explosion is likely to overshadow the incident; i am not sure there will ever be an investigation into this relatively small event, but until such a time comes as there is evidence showing that the rocket was fired by either side, I think it is safer to use neutral language to avoid incorrectly ascribing blame to one party or the other. Mrathel ( talk) 12:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Al Jazeera shouldn’t be used as a source going forward. Its reporting on this was very inaccurate and effectively Hamas propaganda. 2601:100:827F:6F0:3D73:BA3C:DBB6:C94E ( talk) 13:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Any idea what type of error is causing the ahli to be in small letter in the title? Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
In Arabic the name means the "Civil Arab Hospital", despite the faulty translation from the American church friends website. Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
please fix it :D 2804:14D:5C32:4673:7E56:A3A0:CB5D:7CAD ( talk) 21:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please change "This explosion led to the deaths of 200–500 Palestinians and the injury of more than 600 others, according to preliminary tolls by the Palestinian Ministry of Health." to "According to preliminary tolls by the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, this explosion led to the deaths of 200-500 Palestinians and the injury of more than 600 others." in order to better reflect the biases of involved sources and insure greater impartiality, as well as making phrasing more similar to wording in paragraph three of <ref> /info/en/?search=Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion<ref> . If required, add <ref> https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-biden-rafah-e062825a375d9eb62e95509cab95b80c<ref> as source for Hamas-Gaza Health Ministry connection. Thanks. 2001:8003:E037:FB01:500F:8899:E666:3BBE ( talk) 06:54, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please update the "2023 Israel–Hamas war" section to include events from November and December. Further history is already included in the Wikipedia article "Attacks on health facilities during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war." Please see below or suggested text taken from Wikipedia:
"On 18 December, the al-Ahli Arab Hospital was attacked by Israeli soldiers, with displaced people forced out and two doctors arrested (see "Israeli forces attack al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City: Medical sources". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 19 December 2023). The following day, the al-Ahli Hospital director stated Israeli troops arrested doctors, patients, and medical staff, partially destroyed the building's grounds, leaving the hospital unable to receive patients. Four people from the 18 December attacks on the hospital died (see "Gaza Hospital Out Of Action After Israeli Army Assault: Director". Barron's. Agence France Presse. Retrieved 20 December 2023)."
Other potential source regarding the 18 December attack: https://www.emro.who.int/media/news/opening-remarks-un-palais-briefing-21-december-2023.html
Thank you for keeping Wikipedia up with the recent history of the facility. Maroo530 ( talk) 22:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC)