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I changed the caption of the CA armalite M15A4 from an "M16A4" to M4 because it is actually not an M16 but rather an M4 with an M16 butt stock.
Airsoft guns are highly detailed gun simulations for recreational purposes which fire nonlethal 6mm projectiles at muzzle speeds of 100 to 400 feet per second. A flying plastic BB, moving at such velocities can break bare skin however the plastic ammo that it shoots is too slow and light to penetrate the skin, and cause damage to internal organs. The number one danger from airsoft guns is they can damage the eyes and/or cause blindness. Another concern is the perception of this highly detailed sporting equipment in public and by police could result in your arrest and/or worse deadly force used against you.-- Chad Joseph Wilson ( talk) 11:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC) The safety website-hubpages.com/hub/Airsoft-Safety is blocked by Wikipedia. I am requesting removal from the list. The changes have been further edited citing the NRA gun safety website.-- Chad Joseph Wilson ( talk) 11:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I will stop you on the beginning, "Airsoft guns are highly detailed gun simulations" is inaccurate on the fact they aren't 'simulations', the correct term is 'replica'. Also, the laws mention these replica's are pursuant to the same laws as a lethal firearm, therefore, they are subject to open-carry laws, by technicality depending on your area's open carry laws, which most states barely restrict, you should be able to carry this, as long as it isn't loaded, it's on safe, and you aren't actually holding it, assumed to be an aggressive/malicious action, against the law. Your citing of the feet per second rate are not admissible in the talk comment as proof to whatever you were referencing, as they do NOT portray an actual FPS rate, I have heard of airsoft gas rifles going a whopping 720 feet per second, such as this one: http://www.hobbytron.com/GreenGasKJWM700RifleFullMetalSingleBoltActionAirsoftGun.html This is proof that your statement on the FPS of airsoft guns is an example of how common sense is to be used, plus, it takes more than 300 FPS to break the bare skin.-- 2001:5B0:22FF:3EF0:0:0:0:3B ( talk) 07:01, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
"similar in concept to Paintball, with the exception that airsoft is a military simulation that usually has objectives instead of constant 'deathmatches.'" seems not very neutral to me.
Airsoft in general is not similar to paintball at all, from the gear, to the style of match, to how the weapons operate and the ammunition used. I say the part about the similarities should be deleted. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 08:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I think the quote in the beginning indicating that airsoft guns are used in movies should be removed. First of all, it doesn't cite any source (and if it cites an airsoft site, it won't be credible). Second, I know firsthand that the rumor of airsoft guns being used in movies is just that - a rumor - made up by the community that refuses to die. While airsoft guns are quite realistic, the fact they aren't capable of ejecting shell cases means that they aren't realistic enough for even most lower-budgeted productions.
The overwhelming majority of Hollywood films (and even most films made in other countries with stricter gun laws) still rely upon real firearms (or "real steel", as they're often called in airsoft) as "hero" props, whether the gun is firing or not, and blank cartridges for firing. Rubber guns are used for stunt work (i.e. firearms that get dropped or thrown). While I have heard of airsoft being used in very low-budget productions and occasionally used for background actors, this use is still limited and by no means mainstream.
EDIT: There are many airsoft guns on the market that eject shells, like the m1 garand and kar 98k for example. —Preceding
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Even if they did use the shell-ejecting airsoft guns, the guns would not be able to fire automatically,(In some cases, this would be necessary.)because the most modern of these can only fire semi-automatically. —Preceding
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No merger. Airsoft got its Good Article status removed cause it was too long, so these pages were made. They should stay. -- UNHchabo 04:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I thought the section was useful, as it provided a distinct difference between airsoft guns and BB guns. Otherwise people might get the misconception that they are the same thing, or that BB guns are ok to use in airsoft games. Reply here if you disagree. -- UNHchabo 04:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I added RW as a category. Daedalus275 21:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
That said, a certain Asahi M700 airsoft rifle was produced in 1993, and it was possible to convert it to fire real .22 rounds. Upon discovery of this,
all M700's were recalled back for destruction, and 40 were unaccounted for. Production of the Asahi M700 has been stopped since. This is the only airsoft rifle in the world to date that can be converted to fire live ammunition.
I took out this section unless someone can come up with a verifiable source. -- UNHchabo 18:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
You could make a gun from scratch with the supplies needed to convert airsoft guns to real steel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.33.21 ( talk) 04:02, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I think that the name "MPEG" was a confusing misnomer since it was used for the first time. The so-called MPEGs are in fact normal AEGs, but of sometimes lower quality. Instead of using it, we should mention them in the main AEG definition. -- Mike West-- 84.10.20.238 18:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC)ricky is cool
There is a pretty big difference. Operationally they are similar but the manner in which they are researched, designed, and manufactured separates them from AEGs. It's like grouping a budget sedan with a sports car.-- 209.247.22.97 ( talk) 22:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
But the main thing the separates an LPEG from an AEG is the difference in operating mechanism and lack of compatibility with aftermarket parts. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 07:56, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
It appears the spur gear is moving backwards in the animated gearbox picture. Can someone with animation skills fix this??
It seems to me that everything in the Trademark Problems section ought to be moved to the "Legal Issues in airsoft" page. What say the rest of you? ApokalypseCow ( talk) 20:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've tagged the article as such, as it needs major cleanup, many parts even a complete blank then rewrite. Help to remove the:
These are just minor examples. Help to fix them and you'll be doing the article a favor. References are obviously needed as the article progresses. Pump me up 22:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
US prices are used in any article that does not reference a specific country. If this was about British Airsoft then prices should be in GBP, but as this is non-specific, USD is fine. RWJP ( talk) 09:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there an article for the Tanaka company? Im can't find it. -- 24.21.148.155 ( talk) 05:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
On the article it says the MP5 and Armalite series of weapons are the most popular but I believe it should be the Armalite and AK Series. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 07:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)Oldtimerocker
I believe that MP5's are more popular; however, Ak's are on the rise and more and more people are beginning to buy them. Another popular gun, is an M4, or even the G3's are quite popular. But, I do see more MP5's than anything else at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innocent3d ( talk • contribs) 17:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC) I agree with you that it should say that the armalite and AK series are the most popular. I mean there are endless amounts of AK's on the market and you will always see one on the field. And of course there is no arguing that M4/M16 should be in there for most popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:22FF:1CF0:0:0:0:3A ( talk) 00:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Technically, Standard and Low Caps are the same thing, a point bought up by Venomcuz.
As such, i'm wondering whether we should merge the two sections together, renaming them something like "Standard/Low Cap Magazine" and taking the best bits from both.
What do we all think? I'll start a draft version on my Sandbox which everyone can access via my userpage soon to see if I can work out something. RWJP ( talk) 08:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC) I think that is an excellent idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innocent3d ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
In the article it states that it stands for Low-powered, and mid-powered. Quite honest;y, outside of this article, I've never heard of them being called this. Not all MPEG's have a lower FPS than AEGs. Truthfully, according to the sections naming, that means a Tokyo Marui would be a MPEG. I've always heard of LPEG, MPEG, and AEG refer to the pricing of the guns. Low, mid, and high (respectively). I believe this article should be edited to reflect this. The LP and MP refers to the price/quality. For example, Echo 1's and JG's are often considered MPEG's, due to their pricing. They are known to run hot (mainly JG) at stock. These reasons are few, but take a look around forums and you will see what I am talking about. Halofanatic333 ( talk) 12:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Okay, I know it's not great, but it can be used as a starting point (I typed it rather quickly):
AEGs, MPEGs, and LPEGs are the three main categories of electric guns (excluding mini’s). The titles reflect the cost and quality of the guns, high, medium, and low, respectively. Common AEGs are things like Classic Army’s proline and Tokyo Marui. Companies such as D-Boys, JG, and CYMA make MPEGs. MPEGs are generally made of lower cost/quality materials, and are widely popular due to the fact that they are a great deal. MPEGs have the metal gearboxes seen in AEGs. Some MPEGs come “hot” (high fps) stock, such as the JG line, they tend to run at a higher fps than stock Tokyo Marui guns. LPEGs, or LPAEGs, are cheaper alternatives then MPEGS. Their gearboxes tend to be made of plastic or extremely low quality metal. They tend to strip quite easily due to these reasons. LPEGs generally have cheap plastic bodies as well. As far as price goes, AEGs are usually over $250 in cost, MPEGs ranging from $1 00 to $200, and LPEGs are usually under $100.
Halofanatic333 ( talk) 13:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Should it be added that the rise in popularity for the P90 and G36 may be because of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare? 72.160.140.72 ( talk) 01:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
With a little application of the combined gas law, I found that the difference in volume when firing a gun at 10 degrees farenheit, as opposed to 70, was 2.59E5 ATM's. If my math (and reasoning) is correct, then the difference in performance due to temperature should be negligible. I haven't fired my gas gun at that low temperature, but I was barely noticing any difference between 70 and 35, and even that could have been imagined. Could someone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.213.90 ( talk) 06:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) This might be of use. Gas and Temperature. I know that the affect of colder temperatures does affect the potency of gas, and that is rather common knowledge within the community. Halofanatic333 ( talk) 12:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
IMO the recent deletions of "History", "Manufacturers", "Usage" and "Maintenance and lubrication" sections by user Active Banana, are transforming a comprehensive and informative article into a poor stub. Mouramoor ( talk) 18:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
In the section Spring Powered in Types of Airsoft Gun there is something which I think needs clearing up. It reads-
"The age a person has to be 18 years of age in the USA to purchase a spring-powered gun depends completely on locality."
Is it 18 years of age or does it depend on locality? -- 92.237.38.93 ( talk) 15:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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I changed the caption of the CA armalite M15A4 from an "M16A4" to M4 because it is actually not an M16 but rather an M4 with an M16 butt stock.
Airsoft guns are highly detailed gun simulations for recreational purposes which fire nonlethal 6mm projectiles at muzzle speeds of 100 to 400 feet per second. A flying plastic BB, moving at such velocities can break bare skin however the plastic ammo that it shoots is too slow and light to penetrate the skin, and cause damage to internal organs. The number one danger from airsoft guns is they can damage the eyes and/or cause blindness. Another concern is the perception of this highly detailed sporting equipment in public and by police could result in your arrest and/or worse deadly force used against you.-- Chad Joseph Wilson ( talk) 11:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC) The safety website-hubpages.com/hub/Airsoft-Safety is blocked by Wikipedia. I am requesting removal from the list. The changes have been further edited citing the NRA gun safety website.-- Chad Joseph Wilson ( talk) 11:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I will stop you on the beginning, "Airsoft guns are highly detailed gun simulations" is inaccurate on the fact they aren't 'simulations', the correct term is 'replica'. Also, the laws mention these replica's are pursuant to the same laws as a lethal firearm, therefore, they are subject to open-carry laws, by technicality depending on your area's open carry laws, which most states barely restrict, you should be able to carry this, as long as it isn't loaded, it's on safe, and you aren't actually holding it, assumed to be an aggressive/malicious action, against the law. Your citing of the feet per second rate are not admissible in the talk comment as proof to whatever you were referencing, as they do NOT portray an actual FPS rate, I have heard of airsoft gas rifles going a whopping 720 feet per second, such as this one: http://www.hobbytron.com/GreenGasKJWM700RifleFullMetalSingleBoltActionAirsoftGun.html This is proof that your statement on the FPS of airsoft guns is an example of how common sense is to be used, plus, it takes more than 300 FPS to break the bare skin.-- 2001:5B0:22FF:3EF0:0:0:0:3B ( talk) 07:01, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
"similar in concept to Paintball, with the exception that airsoft is a military simulation that usually has objectives instead of constant 'deathmatches.'" seems not very neutral to me.
Airsoft in general is not similar to paintball at all, from the gear, to the style of match, to how the weapons operate and the ammunition used. I say the part about the similarities should be deleted. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 08:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I think the quote in the beginning indicating that airsoft guns are used in movies should be removed. First of all, it doesn't cite any source (and if it cites an airsoft site, it won't be credible). Second, I know firsthand that the rumor of airsoft guns being used in movies is just that - a rumor - made up by the community that refuses to die. While airsoft guns are quite realistic, the fact they aren't capable of ejecting shell cases means that they aren't realistic enough for even most lower-budgeted productions.
The overwhelming majority of Hollywood films (and even most films made in other countries with stricter gun laws) still rely upon real firearms (or "real steel", as they're often called in airsoft) as "hero" props, whether the gun is firing or not, and blank cartridges for firing. Rubber guns are used for stunt work (i.e. firearms that get dropped or thrown). While I have heard of airsoft being used in very low-budget productions and occasionally used for background actors, this use is still limited and by no means mainstream.
EDIT: There are many airsoft guns on the market that eject shells, like the m1 garand and kar 98k for example. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.44.81.34 (
talk) 10:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Even if they did use the shell-ejecting airsoft guns, the guns would not be able to fire automatically,(In some cases, this would be necessary.)because the most modern of these can only fire semi-automatically. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
24.63.212.8 (
talk) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
No merger. Airsoft got its Good Article status removed cause it was too long, so these pages were made. They should stay. -- UNHchabo 04:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I thought the section was useful, as it provided a distinct difference between airsoft guns and BB guns. Otherwise people might get the misconception that they are the same thing, or that BB guns are ok to use in airsoft games. Reply here if you disagree. -- UNHchabo 04:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I added RW as a category. Daedalus275 21:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
That said, a certain Asahi M700 airsoft rifle was produced in 1993, and it was possible to convert it to fire real .22 rounds. Upon discovery of this,
all M700's were recalled back for destruction, and 40 were unaccounted for. Production of the Asahi M700 has been stopped since. This is the only airsoft rifle in the world to date that can be converted to fire live ammunition.
I took out this section unless someone can come up with a verifiable source. -- UNHchabo 18:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
You could make a gun from scratch with the supplies needed to convert airsoft guns to real steel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.33.21 ( talk) 04:02, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I think that the name "MPEG" was a confusing misnomer since it was used for the first time. The so-called MPEGs are in fact normal AEGs, but of sometimes lower quality. Instead of using it, we should mention them in the main AEG definition. -- Mike West-- 84.10.20.238 18:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC)ricky is cool
There is a pretty big difference. Operationally they are similar but the manner in which they are researched, designed, and manufactured separates them from AEGs. It's like grouping a budget sedan with a sports car.-- 209.247.22.97 ( talk) 22:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
But the main thing the separates an LPEG from an AEG is the difference in operating mechanism and lack of compatibility with aftermarket parts. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 07:56, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
It appears the spur gear is moving backwards in the animated gearbox picture. Can someone with animation skills fix this??
It seems to me that everything in the Trademark Problems section ought to be moved to the "Legal Issues in airsoft" page. What say the rest of you? ApokalypseCow ( talk) 20:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've tagged the article as such, as it needs major cleanup, many parts even a complete blank then rewrite. Help to remove the:
These are just minor examples. Help to fix them and you'll be doing the article a favor. References are obviously needed as the article progresses. Pump me up 22:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
US prices are used in any article that does not reference a specific country. If this was about British Airsoft then prices should be in GBP, but as this is non-specific, USD is fine. RWJP ( talk) 09:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there an article for the Tanaka company? Im can't find it. -- 24.21.148.155 ( talk) 05:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
On the article it says the MP5 and Armalite series of weapons are the most popular but I believe it should be the Armalite and AK Series. Oldtimerocker ( talk) 07:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)Oldtimerocker
I believe that MP5's are more popular; however, Ak's are on the rise and more and more people are beginning to buy them. Another popular gun, is an M4, or even the G3's are quite popular. But, I do see more MP5's than anything else at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innocent3d ( talk • contribs) 17:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC) I agree with you that it should say that the armalite and AK series are the most popular. I mean there are endless amounts of AK's on the market and you will always see one on the field. And of course there is no arguing that M4/M16 should be in there for most popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:22FF:1CF0:0:0:0:3A ( talk) 00:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Technically, Standard and Low Caps are the same thing, a point bought up by Venomcuz.
As such, i'm wondering whether we should merge the two sections together, renaming them something like "Standard/Low Cap Magazine" and taking the best bits from both.
What do we all think? I'll start a draft version on my Sandbox which everyone can access via my userpage soon to see if I can work out something. RWJP ( talk) 08:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC) I think that is an excellent idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innocent3d ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
In the article it states that it stands for Low-powered, and mid-powered. Quite honest;y, outside of this article, I've never heard of them being called this. Not all MPEG's have a lower FPS than AEGs. Truthfully, according to the sections naming, that means a Tokyo Marui would be a MPEG. I've always heard of LPEG, MPEG, and AEG refer to the pricing of the guns. Low, mid, and high (respectively). I believe this article should be edited to reflect this. The LP and MP refers to the price/quality. For example, Echo 1's and JG's are often considered MPEG's, due to their pricing. They are known to run hot (mainly JG) at stock. These reasons are few, but take a look around forums and you will see what I am talking about. Halofanatic333 ( talk) 12:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Okay, I know it's not great, but it can be used as a starting point (I typed it rather quickly):
AEGs, MPEGs, and LPEGs are the three main categories of electric guns (excluding mini’s). The titles reflect the cost and quality of the guns, high, medium, and low, respectively. Common AEGs are things like Classic Army’s proline and Tokyo Marui. Companies such as D-Boys, JG, and CYMA make MPEGs. MPEGs are generally made of lower cost/quality materials, and are widely popular due to the fact that they are a great deal. MPEGs have the metal gearboxes seen in AEGs. Some MPEGs come “hot” (high fps) stock, such as the JG line, they tend to run at a higher fps than stock Tokyo Marui guns. LPEGs, or LPAEGs, are cheaper alternatives then MPEGS. Their gearboxes tend to be made of plastic or extremely low quality metal. They tend to strip quite easily due to these reasons. LPEGs generally have cheap plastic bodies as well. As far as price goes, AEGs are usually over $250 in cost, MPEGs ranging from $1 00 to $200, and LPEGs are usually under $100.
Halofanatic333 ( talk) 13:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Should it be added that the rise in popularity for the P90 and G36 may be because of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare? 72.160.140.72 ( talk) 01:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
With a little application of the combined gas law, I found that the difference in volume when firing a gun at 10 degrees farenheit, as opposed to 70, was 2.59E5 ATM's. If my math (and reasoning) is correct, then the difference in performance due to temperature should be negligible. I haven't fired my gas gun at that low temperature, but I was barely noticing any difference between 70 and 35, and even that could have been imagined. Could someone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.213.90 ( talk) 06:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) This might be of use. Gas and Temperature. I know that the affect of colder temperatures does affect the potency of gas, and that is rather common knowledge within the community. Halofanatic333 ( talk) 12:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
IMO the recent deletions of "History", "Manufacturers", "Usage" and "Maintenance and lubrication" sections by user Active Banana, are transforming a comprehensive and informative article into a poor stub. Mouramoor ( talk) 18:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
In the section Spring Powered in Types of Airsoft Gun there is something which I think needs clearing up. It reads-
"The age a person has to be 18 years of age in the USA to purchase a spring-powered gun depends completely on locality."
Is it 18 years of age or does it depend on locality? -- 92.237.38.93 ( talk) 15:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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Poor writing and too few resources. 5.173.174.3 ( talk) 20:08, 10 September 2023 (UTC)