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From a scientific perspective, the story makes relatively little sense. Methamphetamine has a duration of action of 12-20 hours, give or take. A single megadose of methamphetamine might have a longer duration of action, but certainly not several days and most definitely not over a week, as the story claims. There are also no records I have ever seen that corroborate any objective details of this story.
In fact, the story carries the seeds of its own contradiction. One of the symptoms of methamphetamine overdose is delusional psychosis. I would be quite wary of taking anything a soldier who has just chugged 30 man-rations' worth of methamphetamine says at face value. Methamphetamine also alters time perception, so the week in the ditch could well have been an hour or two. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 23:51, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and a factoid: there's no such thing as Pervitin capsules. In fact, capsules were pretty uncommon in World War II. They're a product of being able to mold gelatin or other gastrodissolvable packaging materials into an adequate shape. Pervitin, like most solid medications of the age, was a compressed cylindrical shaped pill (you can see a photo of the commercials for Pervitin here, showing clearly the shape of the Pervitin pill). Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 00:01, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
The article went viral on 1 April. Great work by the writers of this article. I wonder: how was this not a DYK? I can find a whole panoply of great hooks in this rather short article. Would be awesome with some expansion, though I don't read Finnish. Of particular interest would be his post-war travails. Eisfbnore (会話) 02:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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"20 April 1944, along with several other Finnish soldiers. Three days into their mission, on 18 March". 2001:2020:343:AEED:88EE:5250:3FE6:9636 ( talk) 20:06, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
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From a scientific perspective, the story makes relatively little sense. Methamphetamine has a duration of action of 12-20 hours, give or take. A single megadose of methamphetamine might have a longer duration of action, but certainly not several days and most definitely not over a week, as the story claims. There are also no records I have ever seen that corroborate any objective details of this story.
In fact, the story carries the seeds of its own contradiction. One of the symptoms of methamphetamine overdose is delusional psychosis. I would be quite wary of taking anything a soldier who has just chugged 30 man-rations' worth of methamphetamine says at face value. Methamphetamine also alters time perception, so the week in the ditch could well have been an hour or two. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 23:51, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and a factoid: there's no such thing as Pervitin capsules. In fact, capsules were pretty uncommon in World War II. They're a product of being able to mold gelatin or other gastrodissolvable packaging materials into an adequate shape. Pervitin, like most solid medications of the age, was a compressed cylindrical shaped pill (you can see a photo of the commercials for Pervitin here, showing clearly the shape of the Pervitin pill). Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 00:01, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
The article went viral on 1 April. Great work by the writers of this article. I wonder: how was this not a DYK? I can find a whole panoply of great hooks in this rather short article. Would be awesome with some expansion, though I don't read Finnish. Of particular interest would be his post-war travails. Eisfbnore (会話) 02:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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@ Sullay If you are reverted, here is where you discuss to gain consensus for your edit. TylerBurden ( talk) 16:04, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
"20 April 1944, along with several other Finnish soldiers. Three days into their mission, on 18 March". 2001:2020:343:AEED:88EE:5250:3FE6:9636 ( talk) 20:06, 30 July 2023 (UTC)