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Is there any order to this? freestylefrappe 02:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
In January 2007 an editor placed a proposal for the merge of Hukm and Ahkam. As I have no knowledge in this area, I am seeking the broader opinion of other wikipedians who edit these articles. Please state if you feel the merge should or should not take place and why you feel this way. Alan.ca ( talk) 15:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
There is reference in the article that muslims must carry weapons and cites two verses of the Quran, namely Sura 4, verses 71 and 102, yet those verses have nothing to do with weapons, I added a 'not in citation' tag instead of outright deleting. Should that statment be deleted? lalib ( talk) 04:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It says in the article that the 5 categories (Ahkam) are commonly referred to as the Five Pillars of Islam. I thought the five pillars were the 5 practices (Arkan) that were obligatory - not the different categories (Ahkam) themselves. In any case, the explanation in the article seems very ambiguous. I don't feel I have enough knowledge on the subject to correct it, but I hope someone else can clarify it. Madeinsane ( talk) 20:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
The citation used on this page leads to a 404. Please update. I don't know how to put a notice of this on the front of the page or i would 149.169.85.184 ( talk) 04:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I explored the external link " A Fatwa against the Nation of Islam" and found it to be a purported and non-scholarly emanation from the "Italian Muslim Association", which appears to be a movable feast whose url www.amislam.com redirects to Swagbetter.com—a decidely unscholarly (and un-Italian) place! Even before discovering this, I realised that the "archived" version was little more than a sectarian attack on "Islamism"—an American and/or Saudi Arabian variety of the faith unacceptable to other sects, described as "an extremist ideology" by the author Abdul Hadi Palazzi. Another exposition of his WP:POV can be found in this attack on Wahhabism. Enough grounds for deleting the link, which I have done. Wikipedia is not a forum for unbalanced soapboxing. Bjenks ( talk) 02:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
The Arabic non Islamic meaning of the word should be mentioned since it is commonly used in the Arabic language and it derives from Arabic (pre Islam). Islam is not a language. Wikileb123 ( talk) 22:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
It suffers a lot from being hard to read if you're not a muslim in the first place. Untranslated and unlinked terms in arabic, etc. If those issues were adressed, this page would be a shining tool for dispelling common misconceptions for outsiders such as there only being halal and haram.
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The Pope is Catholic. You probably knew that. But does a person completely ignorant of Christianity or religion in general know that? What about a person who is isolated from knowledge of the Western world? At some point in everybody's life, each of us did not know the Pope was Catholic. (Perhaps you were young then, but young people can use Wikipedia, too.) All of us are born ignorant, and only come to knowledge through learning.
While there is no need to go into highly specific detail, particularly about the fringe, it's always good to provide some context. Even if something is very well known among English speakers, please remember that Wikipedia exists in many languages. [1] Even though many Westerners know that Pope Francis is not a Methodist, [2] does everyone in the world know that? (Let's ignore the fact that not everyone has access to Wikipedia yet. One of Wikipedia's goals is that they will.)
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Is there any order to this? freestylefrappe 02:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
In January 2007 an editor placed a proposal for the merge of Hukm and Ahkam. As I have no knowledge in this area, I am seeking the broader opinion of other wikipedians who edit these articles. Please state if you feel the merge should or should not take place and why you feel this way. Alan.ca ( talk) 15:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
There is reference in the article that muslims must carry weapons and cites two verses of the Quran, namely Sura 4, verses 71 and 102, yet those verses have nothing to do with weapons, I added a 'not in citation' tag instead of outright deleting. Should that statment be deleted? lalib ( talk) 04:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It says in the article that the 5 categories (Ahkam) are commonly referred to as the Five Pillars of Islam. I thought the five pillars were the 5 practices (Arkan) that were obligatory - not the different categories (Ahkam) themselves. In any case, the explanation in the article seems very ambiguous. I don't feel I have enough knowledge on the subject to correct it, but I hope someone else can clarify it. Madeinsane ( talk) 20:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
The citation used on this page leads to a 404. Please update. I don't know how to put a notice of this on the front of the page or i would 149.169.85.184 ( talk) 04:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I explored the external link " A Fatwa against the Nation of Islam" and found it to be a purported and non-scholarly emanation from the "Italian Muslim Association", which appears to be a movable feast whose url www.amislam.com redirects to Swagbetter.com—a decidely unscholarly (and un-Italian) place! Even before discovering this, I realised that the "archived" version was little more than a sectarian attack on "Islamism"—an American and/or Saudi Arabian variety of the faith unacceptable to other sects, described as "an extremist ideology" by the author Abdul Hadi Palazzi. Another exposition of his WP:POV can be found in this attack on Wahhabism. Enough grounds for deleting the link, which I have done. Wikipedia is not a forum for unbalanced soapboxing. Bjenks ( talk) 02:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
The Arabic non Islamic meaning of the word should be mentioned since it is commonly used in the Arabic language and it derives from Arabic (pre Islam). Islam is not a language. Wikileb123 ( talk) 22:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
It suffers a lot from being hard to read if you're not a muslim in the first place. Untranslated and unlinked terms in arabic, etc. If those issues were adressed, this page would be a shining tool for dispelling common misconceptions for outsiders such as there only being halal and haram.
This is an
essay. It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been
thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints. |
This page in a nutshell: Consider all walks of life before deciding what information is too obvious to include in an article. |
The Pope is Catholic. You probably knew that. But does a person completely ignorant of Christianity or religion in general know that? What about a person who is isolated from knowledge of the Western world? At some point in everybody's life, each of us did not know the Pope was Catholic. (Perhaps you were young then, but young people can use Wikipedia, too.) All of us are born ignorant, and only come to knowledge through learning.
While there is no need to go into highly specific detail, particularly about the fringe, it's always good to provide some context. Even if something is very well known among English speakers, please remember that Wikipedia exists in many languages. [1] Even though many Westerners know that Pope Francis is not a Methodist, [2] does everyone in the world know that? (Let's ignore the fact that not everyone has access to Wikipedia yet. One of Wikipedia's goals is that they will.)
Wikipedia (or content from Wikipedia) may be used as a learning/teaching tool, especially in less-developed regions of the world that lack educational resources. People in such scenarios may be able to read a Western language well enough to find Wikipedia very useful, but will be unfamiliar with knowledge those living in more industrialized regions take for granted.
To use another popular example, Paris is in France. Most people are familiar with the famous city. But some people may have a poor background in geography. A bare "Paris" is also ambiguous with the dozens of other places named Paris. Maybe you meant Paris, Texas, United States. Context will usually make this clear, but it is better to be explicit and remove all doubt. Simply writing "Paris, France" instead of just "Paris" can go a long way towards clearing up confusion. This also provides an opportunity to build the web by linking "France", i.e., " Paris, France". A link is not always necessary, however, especially if the subject of the linked article is well-known.
Don't make assumptions, and don't be afraid to explain something. Be bold in updating pages.