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I found this section to be very incoherent as it freely mixed non-Norse fiction (sourced from the "Niebelungenlied") with Norse tradition (as known from the Sagas). As the heading was "Norse mythology", and as I quickly realized that no clarification or sources could be given on those parts of the text that were inherently wrong, I decided to wipe the German fiction from the Norse section. German fiction may build on Old Norse tradition, and it may be very similar at places, but it is definitely not the same thing. clsc ( talk) 15:59, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
"Alternatively it has been suggested that it was originally symbolic of the storm-cloud and derived from aisso, signifying rapid, violent motion. Another possible etymology is from the root Αιγ- (Aeg-) meaning wave, as per Αιγαίον (Aegean) = wavy sea." This is not Greek. A long list of "bright" and "goat" Aeg- phonyms can be found in the index to Robert Graves' The Greek Myths. No need to repeat them here. -- Wetman 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC) I have toned down the etymology of aegis from goat-skin. The etymology is uncertain, now as in classical times. Skamnelis ( talk) 23:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
sorry, i don't really know how to use wiki, beyond searching, but it'd make sense to me, since there's a fictional swords category..
I took the liberty of removing Nabisco202's spam link to Aegis medical systems of California, which was added on Sept. 5, without discussing the edit first. I hope that was proper protocol jackbrown
I moved a blurb about Aegis Security Systems to its own article and put a link on the disambiguation page. Oops, I got the edit comment wrong -- I put the new page's comment on this page and don't know how to fix it. The Aegis Security Systems page looks slightly out of bounds -- no justification, seems slightly promotional, so I am probably going to go fix that as well. Ducky ( talk) 08:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
doesn't all the comic book superhero crap belong on the disambiguation page. It's sort of absurd looking in the context of a semi-serious encyclopedia article. -- jackbrown
...furnished with golden tassels and bearing the gorgoneion ( Medusa's head) in the central boss.
I'm pretty sure the gorgon head in the centre of Aegis is not Medusa, but her mother, Aix. Does anyone have citation that the face was Medusa?-- FruitMonkey 16:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Æ wasn't a ligature used in ancient times, why use it here? Arthurian Legend 22:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it gets to a fundamental misinterpretation of the word. I think people assume because it's spelled ae, that it came from æ. Which is also why it's mispronounced as "eegis" But it's from Greek aigis which is pronounced more like the letter a, not e. J1DW ( talk) 09:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
I have a Classics degree and can't be arsed figuring it out, but I've a feeling this article is full of bollox. I know a man on wiki who may be able to fix it.:) Merkinsmum 20:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
This article looks a little dodgy to me. It contains many assertions and many cites, but I'm not sure that the cites support the assertions. ** I don't have any problem with being wrong about this, but I'd like to see the evidence that I'm wrong. **
I added an "original research" tag to the article on 26 Aug 2008 and User:Wetman removed it. Rather than edit-war about this I'm mentioning my concern here. -- 201.17.36.246 ( talk) 20:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Listed as /ˈiːdʒɨs/, but eɪ:dʒɨs is equally as common in my opinion and both versions are listed on Merriam-Webster online and available for listening and comparison. Is this geographic variation, bastardisation or just people being wrong? Any reason to not list both pronounciations? 77.185.42.5 ( talk) 00:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I believe the pronunciation on the page right now is incorrect. I am sure by now it's an acceptable alternative pronunciation but my suspicion is it's wrongly pronounced like "eegis" because of an assumption that the ae comes from Æ, which is incorrect. Aegis comes from Greek Aigis which is pronounced with the "a", not the "e". I agree your suggested pronunciation should be listed. J1DW ( talk) 09:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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another usage of Aegis was to denote the right shoulder emblem (not breastplate) of Zeus which was a symbol of his connections across the heavens, giving him (infinite?) power but esp power of the thunderbolt (and of life) ... THAT was, is the overwhelming usage of this term... and sometimes , also appears as a lightning bolt complex shape in Zeus's hand ... the origin of this power connection, was the similar shape symbol underneath the thrones of Pharoahs, the pivot or axle of the heavens, tied heaven to earth by the double stalks of both reeds and lotus woven back and forth to tie heaven to earth, both life and power of heaven to earth ... q.v. Santilla's, Hamlet's Mill, haroon chakrawallah 9 24.186.56.245 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC) actually my above remarks are BEYOND Santilla's Hamlet's Mill ; ), "now look up and see, ... be still and know ..." ... lil zoos 2 !!!@ 24.186.56.245 ( talk)
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I found this section to be very incoherent as it freely mixed non-Norse fiction (sourced from the "Niebelungenlied") with Norse tradition (as known from the Sagas). As the heading was "Norse mythology", and as I quickly realized that no clarification or sources could be given on those parts of the text that were inherently wrong, I decided to wipe the German fiction from the Norse section. German fiction may build on Old Norse tradition, and it may be very similar at places, but it is definitely not the same thing. clsc ( talk) 15:59, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
"Alternatively it has been suggested that it was originally symbolic of the storm-cloud and derived from aisso, signifying rapid, violent motion. Another possible etymology is from the root Αιγ- (Aeg-) meaning wave, as per Αιγαίον (Aegean) = wavy sea." This is not Greek. A long list of "bright" and "goat" Aeg- phonyms can be found in the index to Robert Graves' The Greek Myths. No need to repeat them here. -- Wetman 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC) I have toned down the etymology of aegis from goat-skin. The etymology is uncertain, now as in classical times. Skamnelis ( talk) 23:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
sorry, i don't really know how to use wiki, beyond searching, but it'd make sense to me, since there's a fictional swords category..
I took the liberty of removing Nabisco202's spam link to Aegis medical systems of California, which was added on Sept. 5, without discussing the edit first. I hope that was proper protocol jackbrown
I moved a blurb about Aegis Security Systems to its own article and put a link on the disambiguation page. Oops, I got the edit comment wrong -- I put the new page's comment on this page and don't know how to fix it. The Aegis Security Systems page looks slightly out of bounds -- no justification, seems slightly promotional, so I am probably going to go fix that as well. Ducky ( talk) 08:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
doesn't all the comic book superhero crap belong on the disambiguation page. It's sort of absurd looking in the context of a semi-serious encyclopedia article. -- jackbrown
...furnished with golden tassels and bearing the gorgoneion ( Medusa's head) in the central boss.
I'm pretty sure the gorgon head in the centre of Aegis is not Medusa, but her mother, Aix. Does anyone have citation that the face was Medusa?-- FruitMonkey 16:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Æ wasn't a ligature used in ancient times, why use it here? Arthurian Legend 22:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it gets to a fundamental misinterpretation of the word. I think people assume because it's spelled ae, that it came from æ. Which is also why it's mispronounced as "eegis" But it's from Greek aigis which is pronounced more like the letter a, not e. J1DW ( talk) 09:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
I have a Classics degree and can't be arsed figuring it out, but I've a feeling this article is full of bollox. I know a man on wiki who may be able to fix it.:) Merkinsmum 20:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
This article looks a little dodgy to me. It contains many assertions and many cites, but I'm not sure that the cites support the assertions. ** I don't have any problem with being wrong about this, but I'd like to see the evidence that I'm wrong. **
I added an "original research" tag to the article on 26 Aug 2008 and User:Wetman removed it. Rather than edit-war about this I'm mentioning my concern here. -- 201.17.36.246 ( talk) 20:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Listed as /ˈiːdʒɨs/, but eɪ:dʒɨs is equally as common in my opinion and both versions are listed on Merriam-Webster online and available for listening and comparison. Is this geographic variation, bastardisation or just people being wrong? Any reason to not list both pronounciations? 77.185.42.5 ( talk) 00:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I believe the pronunciation on the page right now is incorrect. I am sure by now it's an acceptable alternative pronunciation but my suspicion is it's wrongly pronounced like "eegis" because of an assumption that the ae comes from Æ, which is incorrect. Aegis comes from Greek Aigis which is pronounced with the "a", not the "e". I agree your suggested pronunciation should be listed. J1DW ( talk) 09:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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another usage of Aegis was to denote the right shoulder emblem (not breastplate) of Zeus which was a symbol of his connections across the heavens, giving him (infinite?) power but esp power of the thunderbolt (and of life) ... THAT was, is the overwhelming usage of this term... and sometimes , also appears as a lightning bolt complex shape in Zeus's hand ... the origin of this power connection, was the similar shape symbol underneath the thrones of Pharoahs, the pivot or axle of the heavens, tied heaven to earth by the double stalks of both reeds and lotus woven back and forth to tie heaven to earth, both life and power of heaven to earth ... q.v. Santilla's, Hamlet's Mill, haroon chakrawallah 9 24.186.56.245 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC) actually my above remarks are BEYOND Santilla's Hamlet's Mill ; ), "now look up and see, ... be still and know ..." ... lil zoos 2 !!!@ 24.186.56.245 ( talk)