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The season of advent prepares us for the coming of Christ, by lighting the candles we recognize that Christ is the light of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.241.155 ( talk) 20:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I rewrote this page for form, clarity, and to remove redundancies. I also removed the sentence “Increasingly, due to changes in the Roman Catholic Church's lectionary in the United States, all four candles may be violet.” as I could not find any support for the statement. Either pink or purple vestments were allowed for Gaudete Sunday before the Second Vatican Council, when the lectionary changes began. If anyone has a reference for that statement, please restore it. MacPhilbin ( talk) 00:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Here are two links (sorry in German) http://www.rauhes-haus.de/stiftung/geschichte/ and http://www.engelchen.de/advent/kranz.htm By the way if the history requires footnotes, than the symbolic part requires footnotes, too - Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 05:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Needs footnotes! --
Cajuntx (
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05:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I have added the history of the advent wreath Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 20:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The first violet candle is known as the “Prophets” candle and symbolizes the hope that Old Testament Jews had that a Messiah would one day come. The second violet candle is the “Bethlehem” candle and represents the peace that the new God/Man savior would bring, ending the long spiritual rift between God and mankind. The rose candle is the “angel’s” candle (or in some traditions, the “Mary” candle) it symbolizes the joy of Heaven that a Savior was finally to be born. The last violet candle is the “Shepherds’” candle and represents the love or adoration of those ready to accept the gift of the Christ child. The large white candle in the center, often lit on Christmas or Christmas Eve is the “Christ Candle” and represents Jesus as the “Light of the world,” or the Epiphany, God on Earth.
The wreath is meant to represent God's eternity. It is a circle, which has no beginning and no end. Pine is used because it is "evergreen," also representing eternal life. However, the wreath is also forshadowing of Christ's passion. Pine needles and/or holly leaves represent the crown of thorns and holly berries and/or pointsettia flowers represent the blood He shed on the cross.
actually I think that advent candle colors range from blue-violet, not just for anglicans, but catholics, and protestants too. I believe it just depends on what you buy, or what's available.
The article states: "Typically, three of the candles are violet-coloured, and one is rose-coloured. Increasingly, due to changes in the Church's lectionary in the United States, all four candles may be violet." What is the basis for this assertion? I thought the third candle was always pink/rose.
Community of Christ, headquartered in the US, it will very from congregation to congregation, however from the offical worship resources published each year "There is no universal tradition for the color and names of the four candles in the wreath. Three purple or blue candles can be used to symbolize the expectant hope of Advent and a rose candle to represent rejoicing that Christ is coming soon. A white candle is often used for the Christ candle in the center." On this note though, Community of Christ does differ from the 3rd Sunday always being the "rose" candle, as the themes for advent very from year to year. For example Advent 2005 Year B the order was: Hope, Peace, Joy, Love. This year, Advent 2006 Year C, the order is Peace, Hope, Love, Joy, and for Advent 2007 Year A, it will be Peace, Hope, Joy, Love. Thus Last year and next it will be the ninth sunday but this year it will be the forth Sunday for Community of Christ congregations and families that choose to use a different colour for Joy. Is the changing of themes unique to Community of Christ?
I have removed the following addition:
There's nothing inherently inappropriate about this, but it's entirely unsourced and reads as though it is simply speculation, or at best personal research. If it can be sourced, it should go back in.
As the tag currently on the page notes, quite a lot of what's in this article needs sourcing, but most of it is at least recognizable as widely held, whereas this isn't. seglea ( talk) 22:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Seglea will light the candle. Seglea lit the candle. The candle was lighted by Seglea. The candle is lighted. 24.13.194.152 ( talk) 22:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, the reason that I replaced the image is because the original one did not have all five candles. The article talks about the Christ Candle but did not show that image. I moved the image with the red candles to a lower section. I've changed it back and would be glad to clarify any doubts you might have. PFAStudent ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, this article does discuss the Christ Candle so it would be nice if we could show a picture of a wreath containing the candle. How about this image? Will that work? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind using this one then? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the tree does make a nice addition. So you're not going to let me add any of these pictures to the article? Could you add it in for now and if I find a better one later post it here? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:41, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good. PFAStudent ( talk) 23:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
What is the source for the 19 red candles mentioned in the text? The illustration shows 4 sets of 6 weekdays for a total of 24. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.175.250 ( talk) 20:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
The text says four large and twenty small candles but the picture apparently shows six small candles for each week, which is not twenty by any means. Pavlix ( talk) 17:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
This is misleading: "In Medieval times Advent was a fast during which people's thoughts were directed to the expected second coming of Christ; but in modern times it has been seen as the lead up to Christmas, and in that context Advent Wreath serves as a reminder of the approach of the feast." In fact, it has long been both, since before the Middle Ages, and remains both today. ChrisMcConnell ( talk) 05:51, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Advent wreath/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Needs footnotes.-- Cajuntx ( talk) 05:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 05:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 06:46, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Although the Advent wreath is now used by many denominations in the Christian faith, it was originally developed by the Protestant Lutherans and forms part of the protestant tradition first. It is not incorrect to say that it is a Christian tradition but more insight is given by specifically referring to its protestant origins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanerasmus2006 ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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The season of advent prepares us for the coming of Christ, by lighting the candles we recognize that Christ is the light of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.241.155 ( talk) 20:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I rewrote this page for form, clarity, and to remove redundancies. I also removed the sentence “Increasingly, due to changes in the Roman Catholic Church's lectionary in the United States, all four candles may be violet.” as I could not find any support for the statement. Either pink or purple vestments were allowed for Gaudete Sunday before the Second Vatican Council, when the lectionary changes began. If anyone has a reference for that statement, please restore it. MacPhilbin ( talk) 00:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Here are two links (sorry in German) http://www.rauhes-haus.de/stiftung/geschichte/ and http://www.engelchen.de/advent/kranz.htm By the way if the history requires footnotes, than the symbolic part requires footnotes, too - Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 05:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Needs footnotes! --
Cajuntx (
talk)
05:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I have added the history of the advent wreath Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 20:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The first violet candle is known as the “Prophets” candle and symbolizes the hope that Old Testament Jews had that a Messiah would one day come. The second violet candle is the “Bethlehem” candle and represents the peace that the new God/Man savior would bring, ending the long spiritual rift between God and mankind. The rose candle is the “angel’s” candle (or in some traditions, the “Mary” candle) it symbolizes the joy of Heaven that a Savior was finally to be born. The last violet candle is the “Shepherds’” candle and represents the love or adoration of those ready to accept the gift of the Christ child. The large white candle in the center, often lit on Christmas or Christmas Eve is the “Christ Candle” and represents Jesus as the “Light of the world,” or the Epiphany, God on Earth.
The wreath is meant to represent God's eternity. It is a circle, which has no beginning and no end. Pine is used because it is "evergreen," also representing eternal life. However, the wreath is also forshadowing of Christ's passion. Pine needles and/or holly leaves represent the crown of thorns and holly berries and/or pointsettia flowers represent the blood He shed on the cross.
actually I think that advent candle colors range from blue-violet, not just for anglicans, but catholics, and protestants too. I believe it just depends on what you buy, or what's available.
The article states: "Typically, three of the candles are violet-coloured, and one is rose-coloured. Increasingly, due to changes in the Church's lectionary in the United States, all four candles may be violet." What is the basis for this assertion? I thought the third candle was always pink/rose.
Community of Christ, headquartered in the US, it will very from congregation to congregation, however from the offical worship resources published each year "There is no universal tradition for the color and names of the four candles in the wreath. Three purple or blue candles can be used to symbolize the expectant hope of Advent and a rose candle to represent rejoicing that Christ is coming soon. A white candle is often used for the Christ candle in the center." On this note though, Community of Christ does differ from the 3rd Sunday always being the "rose" candle, as the themes for advent very from year to year. For example Advent 2005 Year B the order was: Hope, Peace, Joy, Love. This year, Advent 2006 Year C, the order is Peace, Hope, Love, Joy, and for Advent 2007 Year A, it will be Peace, Hope, Joy, Love. Thus Last year and next it will be the ninth sunday but this year it will be the forth Sunday for Community of Christ congregations and families that choose to use a different colour for Joy. Is the changing of themes unique to Community of Christ?
I have removed the following addition:
There's nothing inherently inappropriate about this, but it's entirely unsourced and reads as though it is simply speculation, or at best personal research. If it can be sourced, it should go back in.
As the tag currently on the page notes, quite a lot of what's in this article needs sourcing, but most of it is at least recognizable as widely held, whereas this isn't. seglea ( talk) 22:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Seglea will light the candle. Seglea lit the candle. The candle was lighted by Seglea. The candle is lighted. 24.13.194.152 ( talk) 22:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, the reason that I replaced the image is because the original one did not have all five candles. The article talks about the Christ Candle but did not show that image. I moved the image with the red candles to a lower section. I've changed it back and would be glad to clarify any doubts you might have. PFAStudent ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, this article does discuss the Christ Candle so it would be nice if we could show a picture of a wreath containing the candle. How about this image? Will that work? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind using this one then? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the tree does make a nice addition. So you're not going to let me add any of these pictures to the article? Could you add it in for now and if I find a better one later post it here? PFAStudent ( talk) 23:41, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good. PFAStudent ( talk) 23:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
What is the source for the 19 red candles mentioned in the text? The illustration shows 4 sets of 6 weekdays for a total of 24. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.175.250 ( talk) 20:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
The text says four large and twenty small candles but the picture apparently shows six small candles for each week, which is not twenty by any means. Pavlix ( talk) 17:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
This is misleading: "In Medieval times Advent was a fast during which people's thoughts were directed to the expected second coming of Christ; but in modern times it has been seen as the lead up to Christmas, and in that context Advent Wreath serves as a reminder of the approach of the feast." In fact, it has long been both, since before the Middle Ages, and remains both today. ChrisMcConnell ( talk) 05:51, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Advent wreath/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Needs footnotes.-- Cajuntx ( talk) 05:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 05:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 06:46, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Although the Advent wreath is now used by many denominations in the Christian faith, it was originally developed by the Protestant Lutherans and forms part of the protestant tradition first. It is not incorrect to say that it is a Christian tradition but more insight is given by specifically referring to its protestant origins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanerasmus2006 ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)