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Caniago - I'm still new to this academic usage in wikipedia, I appreciate your hel, thanks. I'm sorry if I'm not up to scratch. I appreciate your help but I still don't get it why Adityavarman can't be under the "Malay Indonesians" category. Would you care to please elaborate to me why that is so? -- Fantastic4boy ( talk) 12:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Here's a direct quote from a reliable source: "His ethnic identity may have been part Sumatran, part Javanese.". This guy grew up in a Javanese Kraton, you can't go around claiming he's a Malay when we don't even know what he considered himself. That his mother may have been a Malay is irrelevant. ( Caniago ( talk) 16:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)) reply

@ Elnino18: Which Kern source did you mean to refer to with the name "Kern1"? -- Fyrael ( talk) 19:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply