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I removed the following story inserted by an anonymous user, without context or attribution. It's sounds familiar to me, though. Maybe it could be reinserted as a story rather than literal fact, if somebody knows where the story came from.
— Pekinensis 12:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
The above is familiar to me too. It's African folklore about the origin of the tree, though I am not familiar with the source of the actual quote. Lendorien 14:29, 4 November 2005
I deleted the reference to the baobab being the national tree of Madagascar because it's not! The traveller's palm (Ravanala madagascariensis) is.
It's common knowledge, the story of God shoving the tree back in the ground upside down, within African folklore... so probably okay to leave it. BUT..
Answers.com takes a lot of its information from Wikipedia, so I don't think that its really plaigerizing.
I'm gonna be asking for a review on this whole article. Seems someone has been plaigerizing, not sure if it's them or us here, but I've seen a good chunk of this in two other places, one other online Encyclopedia and at http://www.answers.com/topic/baobab -- JT 05:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Grantkruger 19:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I edited the page before seeing the above discussion, but the information is good regardless. To the following,
I added,
I'm from South Africa and I've heard this story from several tribes in South Africa and Mozambique. It is often credited to the bushmen who are amongst the world's oldest people, though their older history is of course oral, rather than written.
Not sure if this is the best way to get this looked at, but given that I've seen a LOT of the content of this article in two different places, it'd probably be good to be sure it's not lifted.
-- JT 05:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
The myth of the punishment of the Baobab tree is a legend among the Kamba tribe in Kenya and possibly other tribes in eastern Kenya. It is true that these people held this legand in ancient times. Note by Steve Van Nattan-- Lived in Kenya for about 12 years 68.47.162.154 23:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Insert non-formatted text here
Is there a historical explanation for the distribution of baobabs in Africa and Australia? Have they existed since before the continents were separated? (This seems unlikely, as both varities are still classified in the same genus.) Were there ever baobabs in Asia, that could explain the radiation from Africa to Australia? -- Saforrest 20:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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I removed this statement from the article, since it seems misleading at best:
Few botanists believe these claims of extreme age; current evidence suggests they rarely exceed 400 years. [1]
The statement "few botanists" would seem to suggest that the entire botanist community collectively believes claims of extreme age to be false, when the cited article makes no such claim. With the statement retained, the overall impression one gets is an unwarranted skepticism for radiometric dating. And I hate to be snarky here, but when I hear skepticism for carbon dating, I hear a Creationist subtext. A different article [2] goes into some detail on how they determined the age of several trees reputed to be over 1000 years old (skip down to "Aging Baobabs" in the link given). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petzl ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
References
A merging of baobab fruit with this article has been suggested. However, keeping the separate article could facilitate reference to it for cooking/cuisine, nutrition, and other purposes. -- A12n ( talk) 13:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
up to 120,000 liters or 32,000 US gallons)
Its not completely clear to me from the WP:UNITS ; should articles like this one state non-SI units for given figures? it says International scope: Wikipedia is not country-specific; unless tackling region-specific topics, use international units , but further examples it gives merely speak of giving them priority, using them along with others? -- 78.0.228.98 ( talk) 23:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
The page states that baobab is found in africa and australia. But a large no of baobabs are found in india. Could it be that the baobab is foreign to india. Any information on history of baobab in india is solicited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.178.163 ( talk) 07:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
This book says Adansonia baobab leaves are used as a spice. -- Una Smith ( talk) 05:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
As of 22:16, 7 July 2010 User:Nbarth added "The Senegalese band Orchestra Baobab is named for the Baobab Club in Dakar, which in turn takes its name from the tree."
Seems a bit tenuous adding the band but not the club if the band is named after the club not the tree? I'd remove but only with more agrement. Trev M ~ 23:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Is a section on notable specimens worth creating? Trev M ~ 21:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I was intrigued by the expression "average diamater", which would mean an estimate of the diameter along the trunk, from its biggest diameter at the base to the diameter just below branching off. Looking for clarity, I went to the cited source, but there is no mention whatsoever of any diameter. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 21:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The following advertising is moved here because it is not appropriate for the article page (per WP:EL):
Nadiatalent ( talk) 19:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of lore and myths around the tree. A section may be appropriate to compare them. Insomesia ( talk) 13:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
In the Fruit section it says "he dried fruit powder contains about 12% water and various nutrients..." which makes no sense. How is it a dried fruit powder can have 12% water in it. Last time I checked the words dried and powder mean it has no water. If this sentence is incorrect then it should be fixed or if there is an explanation as to how it can be true then it needs to be rewritten to clarify the confusion. -- 67.103.38.162 ( talk) 22:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Baobabs were introduced to India by the Portuguese or Arab traders.
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 22:29, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Baobab Adansonia digitata.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 8, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-06-08. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi. It says under uses that there is a potential market of 1 billion USD. There is a ref attributed to "experts" followed by a quote by someone who uses baobab products - "Experts estimate the potential size of the international market at a billion dollars a year. “Baobab is moving from cottage industry into the mainstream,” says Malcolm Riley, of the Yozuna jam company in England. He now counts a large chain of British food stores among his customers. “It’s got mass potential.” ". However, I am not sure that this enough to sustain such a claim. It is a lot o money for a product derived from trees that anre not cultivated, go sparsely and take forever to reach maturity. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 17:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi guys. Is this discorey not being taken seriously by the scientific community yet? Must it still be 'officially' recognised as a new species? Any reason why we don't have an artile on it yet? Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 17:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 11:20, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Adansonia →
Baobab – The lead sentence of the article, presently, is Baobab is the common name for each of the nine species of tree in the genus Adansonia.
Given
WP:COMMONNAME, the article title should be "Baobab" rather than the far more obscure, "Adansonia". —
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21:11, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
The guiding principle of this guideline is to follow usage in reliable sources. In the vast majority of cases, this will be the current scientific name. This is because the vast majority of plants are of academic interest only to botanists, and botanists almost invariably use scientific names in their published works. On the other hand, when a plant is of interest outside botany—for example because it has agricultural, horticultural or cultural importance—then a vernacular name may be more common.When I search Science magazine's scientific (not news) content for "baobab" and "adansonia", "baobab" returns more than twice as many references as "adansonia". Similarly, when I search Nature the former (baobab) returns more than three times as many results as the latter. The baobab is quite prominent culturally, so the usage seems to satisfy the principle of NCFLORA as an exception (in line with that guideline, I'm not searching the horticultural literature, but rather the general scientific literature). — soupvector ( talk) 01:13, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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This tree is known as the 'boab' in Australia. According to guides in the Kimberly region, this means 'many seeds' in a local Aboriginal language. However, if the name is derived via the African 'baobab' - I have to doubt this. In fact the word is first attested in medieval times in Europe as 'bahobab,' possibly from the The Arabic 'bawaaba' ('gate'). Certainly many baobabs have hollows and gaps in their bases (often made by elephants looking for the wet pulp) that can be used as doors into the trunk's interior. It is likely therefore that the word is of Arabic origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:34F0:C300:21C:B3FF:FEC6:12F7 ( talk) 00:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Baobab trees are a cause of major concern for the title character of The Little Prince, a world-famous classic. There is ample coverage of the relationship between these 2 topics. It suffices to do a basic search. So I've added an "in popular culture" section to the article, but another user keeps reverting it ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Adansonia&type=revision&diff=821616665&oldid=821515990) and I'd like to know what the best thing to do is. Thank you in advance DrVogel ( talk) 21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Any thoughts? DrVogel ( talk) 23:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Please The Little Prince. Thewriter006 ( talk) 19:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Adansonia digitata which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:30, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 19:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Adansonia → Baobabs – In the plural, the common name will be the "Baobabs" and thusly it will make sense more so than the scientific Adansonia to more people. Many more have heard of Baobabs than Adansonia and in the plural it works to refer to many types of Baobabs. That is all. Except to say that the previous talk Talk:Adansonia#Requested_move_1_May_2016 was yet failed but is now stale so we can pursue this exciting new change with renewed vigor. Bod ( talk) 20:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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I removed the following story inserted by an anonymous user, without context or attribution. It's sounds familiar to me, though. Maybe it could be reinserted as a story rather than literal fact, if somebody knows where the story came from.
— Pekinensis 12:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
The above is familiar to me too. It's African folklore about the origin of the tree, though I am not familiar with the source of the actual quote. Lendorien 14:29, 4 November 2005
I deleted the reference to the baobab being the national tree of Madagascar because it's not! The traveller's palm (Ravanala madagascariensis) is.
It's common knowledge, the story of God shoving the tree back in the ground upside down, within African folklore... so probably okay to leave it. BUT..
Answers.com takes a lot of its information from Wikipedia, so I don't think that its really plaigerizing.
I'm gonna be asking for a review on this whole article. Seems someone has been plaigerizing, not sure if it's them or us here, but I've seen a good chunk of this in two other places, one other online Encyclopedia and at http://www.answers.com/topic/baobab -- JT 05:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Grantkruger 19:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC) I edited the page before seeing the above discussion, but the information is good regardless. To the following,
I added,
I'm from South Africa and I've heard this story from several tribes in South Africa and Mozambique. It is often credited to the bushmen who are amongst the world's oldest people, though their older history is of course oral, rather than written.
Not sure if this is the best way to get this looked at, but given that I've seen a LOT of the content of this article in two different places, it'd probably be good to be sure it's not lifted.
-- JT 05:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
The myth of the punishment of the Baobab tree is a legend among the Kamba tribe in Kenya and possibly other tribes in eastern Kenya. It is true that these people held this legand in ancient times. Note by Steve Van Nattan-- Lived in Kenya for about 12 years 68.47.162.154 23:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Insert non-formatted text here
Is there a historical explanation for the distribution of baobabs in Africa and Australia? Have they existed since before the continents were separated? (This seems unlikely, as both varities are still classified in the same genus.) Were there ever baobabs in Asia, that could explain the radiation from Africa to Australia? -- Saforrest 20:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
This article talk page was automatically added with {{ WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Food or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging here . Maximum and careful attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform on the project talk page -- TinucherianBot ( talk) 21:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed this statement from the article, since it seems misleading at best:
Few botanists believe these claims of extreme age; current evidence suggests they rarely exceed 400 years. [1]
The statement "few botanists" would seem to suggest that the entire botanist community collectively believes claims of extreme age to be false, when the cited article makes no such claim. With the statement retained, the overall impression one gets is an unwarranted skepticism for radiometric dating. And I hate to be snarky here, but when I hear skepticism for carbon dating, I hear a Creationist subtext. A different article [2] goes into some detail on how they determined the age of several trees reputed to be over 1000 years old (skip down to "Aging Baobabs" in the link given). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petzl ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
References
A merging of baobab fruit with this article has been suggested. However, keeping the separate article could facilitate reference to it for cooking/cuisine, nutrition, and other purposes. -- A12n ( talk) 13:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
up to 120,000 liters or 32,000 US gallons)
Its not completely clear to me from the WP:UNITS ; should articles like this one state non-SI units for given figures? it says International scope: Wikipedia is not country-specific; unless tackling region-specific topics, use international units , but further examples it gives merely speak of giving them priority, using them along with others? -- 78.0.228.98 ( talk) 23:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
The page states that baobab is found in africa and australia. But a large no of baobabs are found in india. Could it be that the baobab is foreign to india. Any information on history of baobab in india is solicited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.178.163 ( talk) 07:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
This book says Adansonia baobab leaves are used as a spice. -- Una Smith ( talk) 05:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
As of 22:16, 7 July 2010 User:Nbarth added "The Senegalese band Orchestra Baobab is named for the Baobab Club in Dakar, which in turn takes its name from the tree."
Seems a bit tenuous adding the band but not the club if the band is named after the club not the tree? I'd remove but only with more agrement. Trev M ~ 23:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Is a section on notable specimens worth creating? Trev M ~ 21:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I was intrigued by the expression "average diamater", which would mean an estimate of the diameter along the trunk, from its biggest diameter at the base to the diameter just below branching off. Looking for clarity, I went to the cited source, but there is no mention whatsoever of any diameter. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 21:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The following advertising is moved here because it is not appropriate for the article page (per WP:EL):
Nadiatalent ( talk) 19:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of lore and myths around the tree. A section may be appropriate to compare them. Insomesia ( talk) 13:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
In the Fruit section it says "he dried fruit powder contains about 12% water and various nutrients..." which makes no sense. How is it a dried fruit powder can have 12% water in it. Last time I checked the words dried and powder mean it has no water. If this sentence is incorrect then it should be fixed or if there is an explanation as to how it can be true then it needs to be rewritten to clarify the confusion. -- 67.103.38.162 ( talk) 22:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Baobabs were introduced to India by the Portuguese or Arab traders.
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 22:29, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Baobab Adansonia digitata.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 8, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-06-08. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 03:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi. It says under uses that there is a potential market of 1 billion USD. There is a ref attributed to "experts" followed by a quote by someone who uses baobab products - "Experts estimate the potential size of the international market at a billion dollars a year. “Baobab is moving from cottage industry into the mainstream,” says Malcolm Riley, of the Yozuna jam company in England. He now counts a large chain of British food stores among his customers. “It’s got mass potential.” ". However, I am not sure that this enough to sustain such a claim. It is a lot o money for a product derived from trees that anre not cultivated, go sparsely and take forever to reach maturity. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 17:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi guys. Is this discorey not being taken seriously by the scientific community yet? Must it still be 'officially' recognised as a new species? Any reason why we don't have an artile on it yet? Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 17:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 11:20, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Adansonia →
Baobab – The lead sentence of the article, presently, is Baobab is the common name for each of the nine species of tree in the genus Adansonia.
Given
WP:COMMONNAME, the article title should be "Baobab" rather than the far more obscure, "Adansonia". —
soupvector (
talk)
21:11, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
The guiding principle of this guideline is to follow usage in reliable sources. In the vast majority of cases, this will be the current scientific name. This is because the vast majority of plants are of academic interest only to botanists, and botanists almost invariably use scientific names in their published works. On the other hand, when a plant is of interest outside botany—for example because it has agricultural, horticultural or cultural importance—then a vernacular name may be more common.When I search Science magazine's scientific (not news) content for "baobab" and "adansonia", "baobab" returns more than twice as many references as "adansonia". Similarly, when I search Nature the former (baobab) returns more than three times as many results as the latter. The baobab is quite prominent culturally, so the usage seems to satisfy the principle of NCFLORA as an exception (in line with that guideline, I'm not searching the horticultural literature, but rather the general scientific literature). — soupvector ( talk) 01:13, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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This tree is known as the 'boab' in Australia. According to guides in the Kimberly region, this means 'many seeds' in a local Aboriginal language. However, if the name is derived via the African 'baobab' - I have to doubt this. In fact the word is first attested in medieval times in Europe as 'bahobab,' possibly from the The Arabic 'bawaaba' ('gate'). Certainly many baobabs have hollows and gaps in their bases (often made by elephants looking for the wet pulp) that can be used as doors into the trunk's interior. It is likely therefore that the word is of Arabic origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:34F0:C300:21C:B3FF:FEC6:12F7 ( talk) 00:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Baobab trees are a cause of major concern for the title character of The Little Prince, a world-famous classic. There is ample coverage of the relationship between these 2 topics. It suffices to do a basic search. So I've added an "in popular culture" section to the article, but another user keeps reverting it ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Adansonia&type=revision&diff=821616665&oldid=821515990) and I'd like to know what the best thing to do is. Thank you in advance DrVogel ( talk) 21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Any thoughts? DrVogel ( talk) 23:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Please The Little Prince. Thewriter006 ( talk) 19:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Adansonia digitata which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 18:30, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 19:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Adansonia → Baobabs – In the plural, the common name will be the "Baobabs" and thusly it will make sense more so than the scientific Adansonia to more people. Many more have heard of Baobabs than Adansonia and in the plural it works to refer to many types of Baobabs. That is all. Except to say that the previous talk Talk:Adansonia#Requested_move_1_May_2016 was yet failed but is now stale so we can pursue this exciting new change with renewed vigor. Bod ( talk) 20:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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