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I removed a note about Robin Williams' performance at the ceremony (which said that it was uncommon), because it is not that uncommon for someone other than the singer in the soundtrack to perform at the ceremony. For example, on the soundtrack of Chicago, "I Go On" is sung by Catherine Zeta-Jones and Renée Zellweger. At the ceremony, Zellweger's part was performed by Queen Latifah, possibly because of her superior experience in live musical performance. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:43, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Go to "Soundtracks" and you'll find who performed what. Also the official Oscar site mentions it. Sometimes the choices are odd for example "Against All Odds" and "Footloose" were performed by Ann Reinking and Debbie Allen. In the case #REDIRECT [Against All Odds (song)] the writers were unfamiliar with [Phil Collins] but I don't know about Debbie Allen and #REDIRECT [[Footloose (song)] were they unfamiliar with Kenny Loggins? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KL FAN ( talk • contribs) 13:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Do we really have to point out that it is the songwriters who get the award? Obviously all the awards are accepted by humans rather than the 'songs' or 'films' themselves. What is the point of this disambiguation? To my mind there IS such a thing as an Oscar-winning song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.2.61 ( talk) 16:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. In this article, years are wrong. In Annie Lennox there is written she won in 2004, and not in 2003. The winner in 2003 was "Lose Yourself". See it.wiki -- Square87 21:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
This article needs expanding, to include all successful songwriters and their collaborators. For example, Jimmy van Heusen is listed, but not Johnny Burke. As this is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, this article ought to list year-by-year all nominated songs, the writers, the performers, the film, possibly the director too, not just the title of the winning song.
Guy 19:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The article needs a list like this one. There is a need for separate articles, one list by winning composers alphabetically, similar for lyricists, and listings for all nominees.
Problems with this:
jnestorius( talk) 16:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Why?! 89.222.152.170 ( talk) 16:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
today AMPAS announced a change for the 81st academy awards; in their press release they say:
jhawkinson (
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18:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
No problem with having this in the article. However, wouldn't it be better served by having another paragraph headed "Posthumous winners", rather like the section on Female winners? Also, while I am at it, a split in the list of more-than-one winners and more-than-one nominees (into two lists). Speaking of which, as the article is starting to become a little obese, is it not time to split out the lists of nominees into another article "Academy Award for Best Original Song (nominees)"? I also think the format was better when it was a table - the only snag was that my Wikitable skills do not extend to joining two boxes when the nominee(s) had joint responsibility for tune and lyrics. Comments, please :-) Guy ( talk) 15:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
The press makes a big deal about the African American winners of the four acting categories. Would a section for African American winners be an approriate additiosn to the bottom of this article? - ErinHowarth ( talk) 01:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to link to the song You_Light_Up_My_Life_(song) rather than the movie, in 1977? 99.255.208.80 ( talk) 16:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay now, I was trying to figure out where this would go, but the trivia regarding this is quite intresting in the fact that it is the only short film to be nominated in this field, and I believe the only animated short to be nominated in a non short cat. So can someone tell me where would this trivia go on the best song page? Thanks.
174.50.65.177 ( talk) 20:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Even though the more well known songs such as "Somewhere over a rainbow" and "White Christmas" are from earlier times. Wallie ( talk) 10:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
In 1944 "Sweet Dreams Sweetheart" from Hollywood Canteen – music by Maurice K. Jerome and lyric by Ted Koehler is missing. See Oscar-article. -- 87.122.117.211 ( talk) 23:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Academy Awards which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 13:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Should we list songwriters who go by stage names by their stage names or what the nominations list them as? I'm specifically referring to Adele, who's listed as Adele Adkins for her nomination in Skyfall & Common and John Legend, listed as Lonnie Lynn and John Stephens on their nomination on Glory. Meanwhile, Eminem was listed by that name for his nomination. Bono and the Edge were listed by those names for their first nomination and their real names (Paul Hewson and Dave Evans) on their second one. What's the proper procedure? Crboyer ( talk) 01:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Sources: http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2003, http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2013, http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2014, and http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2015. Crboyer ( talk) 01:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Why are the songs in a list prior to 1950 and a table afterwards? Naraht ( talk) 13:20, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Should years be shifted up (+1) because if someone checks for example https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1984 he/she won't find Stevie Wonder's song that has year 1984 next to it in Wiki article (he/she will find it on https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1985)?-- Obsuser ( talk) 01:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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User:208.117.127.135 has reverted multiple edits that are inconsistent with citations from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences as they name nominated films, songs and individuals. User:2600:1700:acc0:b6b0:611f:dc76:b31d:9a0a has helped to correct things like " Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do)" to its correct title. It seems like it would be easiest to keep listings here consistent with those officially provided by AMPAS, but please feel free to share any other recommendations. Rburton66 ( talk) 05:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I feel that the Oscar nominees should be alphabetized, and that they should addressed by the names the are commonly known for. Like Shellback or Juicy J. And if they wrote as a team, then they should be addressed by their team name. Like U2 or Pasek & Paul. As for " Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do)" I think it'll make things easier if the songs like this didn't include the "Theme of" part. Except for the Shaft theme because has no other title.
Also, if there is a movie or person with more nominations in the same year, they shouldn't be repeated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.117.127.135 ( talk) 22:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, 208.117.127.135. Can you provide any citations to support the titling preferences? Please consider this AMPAS nomination certificate for the 1962 Mutiny on the Bounty song, for instance, to see how that song title was officially listed by the Academy: http://natedsanders.com/ItemImages/000009/39381_med.jpeg Rburton66 ( talk) 00:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
208.117.127.135 has again made further reversions without discussing. To prevent further edit warring, I'm seeking a request for a third opinion. Rburton66 ( talk) 04:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
I was just eliminating the repetition of nominees and movies, for example, Beauty and the Beast has three nominations and doesn't need to be highlighted in all it's sections.
Also, it's ridiculous to have one person have a (music and lyrics) note, while others have just (music) or (lyrics). Just keep it simple and have the nominations look like this: "Paul McCartney (music); Linda McCartney & Paul McCartney (lyrics)
As well as this: "Phil Collins (music and lyrics)
So the page won't be so discombobulated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.117.127.135 ( talk) 13:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
That seems reasonable, 208.117.127.135. Thank you! Rburton66 ( talk) 20:17, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Pasek and Paul should be nominated as a team. They wrote the songs together, therefore they should be under their team name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.144.70 ( talk) 00:42, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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216.241.192.33: has made a number of changes
here that change names and titles away from that used by AMPAS. Do we have consesnsus that names and titles should reflect those in the nomination (which makes sense to me), or should we be moving these to the common name as reflected in the subject's article titles? --
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18:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Pasek & Paul's nominations need to be under their team name cause they wrote songs as a team. Also because they are more well-known as Pasek & Paul. Now if either one did songs without the other, then their full name can be spelled out.
Even if it's different from the Oscar site, they really need to be under their team name, because their wikipedia page addresses them as a team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.144.70 ( talk) 23:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Just let them be called by their team name! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.38.232.71 ( talk) 14:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, here's a reply. I entirely disagree for the following reasons:
a.) The official nominations use their full names. b.) There is no precedent for this in these articles. Plenty of musical theater collaborations have been called by team names and at no point have they been officially nominated under that team name. Kander and Ebb aren't listed as being nominated for Funny Lady under their team name, and nor should they be. Wikipedia, by the way, listing them as Pasek and Paul has no bearing on how they should be categorized in these articles. The Wiki articles devoted to their collaborations calls them Rodgers and Hammerstein and Kander and Ebb, and their full names are still used in nomination articles.
Unless you're able to get consensus on this issue in favor of your preference -- which at this point you don't -- your edits will keep being reverted. Hope this helps! NathanielTheBold ( talk)
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I removed a note about Robin Williams' performance at the ceremony (which said that it was uncommon), because it is not that uncommon for someone other than the singer in the soundtrack to perform at the ceremony. For example, on the soundtrack of Chicago, "I Go On" is sung by Catherine Zeta-Jones and Renée Zellweger. At the ceremony, Zellweger's part was performed by Queen Latifah, possibly because of her superior experience in live musical performance. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:43, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Go to "Soundtracks" and you'll find who performed what. Also the official Oscar site mentions it. Sometimes the choices are odd for example "Against All Odds" and "Footloose" were performed by Ann Reinking and Debbie Allen. In the case #REDIRECT [Against All Odds (song)] the writers were unfamiliar with [Phil Collins] but I don't know about Debbie Allen and #REDIRECT [[Footloose (song)] were they unfamiliar with Kenny Loggins? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KL FAN ( talk • contribs) 13:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Do we really have to point out that it is the songwriters who get the award? Obviously all the awards are accepted by humans rather than the 'songs' or 'films' themselves. What is the point of this disambiguation? To my mind there IS such a thing as an Oscar-winning song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.2.61 ( talk) 16:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. In this article, years are wrong. In Annie Lennox there is written she won in 2004, and not in 2003. The winner in 2003 was "Lose Yourself". See it.wiki -- Square87 21:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
This article needs expanding, to include all successful songwriters and their collaborators. For example, Jimmy van Heusen is listed, but not Johnny Burke. As this is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, this article ought to list year-by-year all nominated songs, the writers, the performers, the film, possibly the director too, not just the title of the winning song.
Guy 19:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The article needs a list like this one. There is a need for separate articles, one list by winning composers alphabetically, similar for lyricists, and listings for all nominees.
Long table that probably doesn't belong on the talk page
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Problems with this:
jnestorius( talk) 16:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Why?! 89.222.152.170 ( talk) 16:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
today AMPAS announced a change for the 81st academy awards; in their press release they say:
jhawkinson (
talk)
18:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
No problem with having this in the article. However, wouldn't it be better served by having another paragraph headed "Posthumous winners", rather like the section on Female winners? Also, while I am at it, a split in the list of more-than-one winners and more-than-one nominees (into two lists). Speaking of which, as the article is starting to become a little obese, is it not time to split out the lists of nominees into another article "Academy Award for Best Original Song (nominees)"? I also think the format was better when it was a table - the only snag was that my Wikitable skills do not extend to joining two boxes when the nominee(s) had joint responsibility for tune and lyrics. Comments, please :-) Guy ( talk) 15:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
The press makes a big deal about the African American winners of the four acting categories. Would a section for African American winners be an approriate additiosn to the bottom of this article? - ErinHowarth ( talk) 01:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to link to the song You_Light_Up_My_Life_(song) rather than the movie, in 1977? 99.255.208.80 ( talk) 16:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay now, I was trying to figure out where this would go, but the trivia regarding this is quite intresting in the fact that it is the only short film to be nominated in this field, and I believe the only animated short to be nominated in a non short cat. So can someone tell me where would this trivia go on the best song page? Thanks.
174.50.65.177 ( talk) 20:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Even though the more well known songs such as "Somewhere over a rainbow" and "White Christmas" are from earlier times. Wallie ( talk) 10:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
In 1944 "Sweet Dreams Sweetheart" from Hollywood Canteen – music by Maurice K. Jerome and lyric by Ted Koehler is missing. See Oscar-article. -- 87.122.117.211 ( talk) 23:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Academy Awards which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 13:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Should we list songwriters who go by stage names by their stage names or what the nominations list them as? I'm specifically referring to Adele, who's listed as Adele Adkins for her nomination in Skyfall & Common and John Legend, listed as Lonnie Lynn and John Stephens on their nomination on Glory. Meanwhile, Eminem was listed by that name for his nomination. Bono and the Edge were listed by those names for their first nomination and their real names (Paul Hewson and Dave Evans) on their second one. What's the proper procedure? Crboyer ( talk) 01:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Sources: http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2003, http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2013, http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2014, and http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2015. Crboyer ( talk) 01:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Why are the songs in a list prior to 1950 and a table afterwards? Naraht ( talk) 13:20, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Should years be shifted up (+1) because if someone checks for example https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1984 he/she won't find Stevie Wonder's song that has year 1984 next to it in Wiki article (he/she will find it on https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1985)?-- Obsuser ( talk) 01:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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User:208.117.127.135 has reverted multiple edits that are inconsistent with citations from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences as they name nominated films, songs and individuals. User:2600:1700:acc0:b6b0:611f:dc76:b31d:9a0a has helped to correct things like " Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do)" to its correct title. It seems like it would be easiest to keep listings here consistent with those officially provided by AMPAS, but please feel free to share any other recommendations. Rburton66 ( talk) 05:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I feel that the Oscar nominees should be alphabetized, and that they should addressed by the names the are commonly known for. Like Shellback or Juicy J. And if they wrote as a team, then they should be addressed by their team name. Like U2 or Pasek & Paul. As for " Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do)" I think it'll make things easier if the songs like this didn't include the "Theme of" part. Except for the Shaft theme because has no other title.
Also, if there is a movie or person with more nominations in the same year, they shouldn't be repeated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.117.127.135 ( talk) 22:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, 208.117.127.135. Can you provide any citations to support the titling preferences? Please consider this AMPAS nomination certificate for the 1962 Mutiny on the Bounty song, for instance, to see how that song title was officially listed by the Academy: http://natedsanders.com/ItemImages/000009/39381_med.jpeg Rburton66 ( talk) 00:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
208.117.127.135 has again made further reversions without discussing. To prevent further edit warring, I'm seeking a request for a third opinion. Rburton66 ( talk) 04:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
I was just eliminating the repetition of nominees and movies, for example, Beauty and the Beast has three nominations and doesn't need to be highlighted in all it's sections.
Also, it's ridiculous to have one person have a (music and lyrics) note, while others have just (music) or (lyrics). Just keep it simple and have the nominations look like this: "Paul McCartney (music); Linda McCartney & Paul McCartney (lyrics)
As well as this: "Phil Collins (music and lyrics)
So the page won't be so discombobulated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.117.127.135 ( talk) 13:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
That seems reasonable, 208.117.127.135. Thank you! Rburton66 ( talk) 20:17, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Pasek and Paul should be nominated as a team. They wrote the songs together, therefore they should be under their team name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.144.70 ( talk) 00:42, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
@
216.241.192.33: has made a number of changes
here that change names and titles away from that used by AMPAS. Do we have consesnsus that names and titles should reflect those in the nomination (which makes sense to me), or should we be moving these to the common name as reflected in the subject's article titles? --
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18:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Pasek & Paul's nominations need to be under their team name cause they wrote songs as a team. Also because they are more well-known as Pasek & Paul. Now if either one did songs without the other, then their full name can be spelled out.
Even if it's different from the Oscar site, they really need to be under their team name, because their wikipedia page addresses them as a team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.144.70 ( talk) 23:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Just let them be called by their team name! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.38.232.71 ( talk) 14:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, here's a reply. I entirely disagree for the following reasons:
a.) The official nominations use their full names. b.) There is no precedent for this in these articles. Plenty of musical theater collaborations have been called by team names and at no point have they been officially nominated under that team name. Kander and Ebb aren't listed as being nominated for Funny Lady under their team name, and nor should they be. Wikipedia, by the way, listing them as Pasek and Paul has no bearing on how they should be categorized in these articles. The Wiki articles devoted to their collaborations calls them Rodgers and Hammerstein and Kander and Ebb, and their full names are still used in nomination articles.
Unless you're able to get consensus on this issue in favor of your preference -- which at this point you don't -- your edits will keep being reverted. Hope this helps! NathanielTheBold ( talk)