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“Intended to evoke”? Who wrote this. The Accords were superior to anything any previous President achieved, until Biden destroyed them.
I added the Haaretz analysis as requested. It's not very complimentary, perhaps others will be able to find more supportive commentaries on the various documents. Selfstudier ( talk) 10:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
The claim is being made based on a primary source that Sudan has joined the Abraham Accords, the latter being a piece of paper signed by US, Israel, UAE and Bahrain. I see no evidence that Sudan has signed this paper or that it has even said that it will. The joint statement of US, Israel and Sudan makes no mention of it. Up to now I have not seen any third party sources claiming that, does anyone have some? Selfstudier ( talk) 20:11, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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As can be seen in the article body, there is material to the effect that the US State Department will refer to agreements of this type as "normalization agreements" and not as "Abraham Accords".
Should a short sentence to this effect be in the lead? Selfstudier ( talk) 22:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Israeli Official: Sudan Expected to Join Abraham Accords
What? The US, Israel and every media under the sun has been telling us that Sudan joined AA already. Guess not. Selfstudier ( talk) 23:02, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
There's currently an ongoing RFC at Talk:Donald Trump over whether or not to include mention of the Abraham Accords in that article. Any page watchers here, feel free to participate in the discussion. PhotogenicScientist ( talk) 14:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
The RfC has been reopened. Space4Time3Continuum2x 🖖 12:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Activity on this page has certainly picked up, since the aforementioned RFC was re-opened. GoodDay ( talk) 18:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
The source for the first sentence of the
Background section shows an url error that I can't fix because the source is the source of the error. The original
url now leads to another Reuters article that also has
another url. I couldn't find the original article, "Trump leaps into Middle East fray with peace plan that Palestinians denounce", under another url online. I added the archived version but I don't know how to fix the red error msg. Any suggestions on how to do that? Never mind - I typed a copy of the cite, and the typed copy doesn't have the red error msg. The url still links to the Reuters "Factbox" article but, as I said before, the error is in the source.
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🖖 12:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
The article bears a startling resemblance to the page of Samuel Shay, the chairman of the Israel-UAR business forum. So who copied whom?
The exact same wording in WP and on LinkedIn page: On October 23, 2020 Israel and Sudan agreed to normalize ties, making Sudan the third Arab country to set aside hostilities in two months. The agreement was negotiated on the U.S. side by Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner, Middle East envoy Avi Berkowitz, national security adviser Robert O’Brien, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security official Miguel Correa.
Another oddity: The second sentence crediting Kushner et al was also cited verbatim by several news outlets: Reuters, NBC, Asharq Al-Awsat, Globe and Mail, Telegraph, and others. Space4Time3Continuum2x 🖖 16:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
"As part of the agreement, the U.S. removed Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism and giving it a US$1.2 billion loan."
Shouldn't the sentence read:
"As part of the agreement, the U.S. removed Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism and gave it a US$1.2 billion loan." JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 01:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
"...committed peace broker Bill Clinton" Sennis1 ( talk) 13:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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“Intended to evoke”? Who wrote this. The Accords were superior to anything any previous President achieved, until Biden destroyed them.
I added the Haaretz analysis as requested. It's not very complimentary, perhaps others will be able to find more supportive commentaries on the various documents. Selfstudier ( talk) 10:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
The claim is being made based on a primary source that Sudan has joined the Abraham Accords, the latter being a piece of paper signed by US, Israel, UAE and Bahrain. I see no evidence that Sudan has signed this paper or that it has even said that it will. The joint statement of US, Israel and Sudan makes no mention of it. Up to now I have not seen any third party sources claiming that, does anyone have some? Selfstudier ( talk) 20:11, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
gostaria de traduzir isso? att 2804:14C:5BB3:8BED:F168:F8E8:A3C8:2E61 ( talk) 10:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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As can be seen in the article body, there is material to the effect that the US State Department will refer to agreements of this type as "normalization agreements" and not as "Abraham Accords".
Should a short sentence to this effect be in the lead? Selfstudier ( talk) 22:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Israeli Official: Sudan Expected to Join Abraham Accords
What? The US, Israel and every media under the sun has been telling us that Sudan joined AA already. Guess not. Selfstudier ( talk) 23:02, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
There's currently an ongoing RFC at Talk:Donald Trump over whether or not to include mention of the Abraham Accords in that article. Any page watchers here, feel free to participate in the discussion. PhotogenicScientist ( talk) 14:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
The RfC has been reopened. Space4Time3Continuum2x 🖖 12:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Activity on this page has certainly picked up, since the aforementioned RFC was re-opened. GoodDay ( talk) 18:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
The source for the first sentence of the
Background section shows an url error that I can't fix because the source is the source of the error. The original
url now leads to another Reuters article that also has
another url. I couldn't find the original article, "Trump leaps into Middle East fray with peace plan that Palestinians denounce", under another url online. I added the archived version but I don't know how to fix the red error msg. Any suggestions on how to do that? Never mind - I typed a copy of the cite, and the typed copy doesn't have the red error msg. The url still links to the Reuters "Factbox" article but, as I said before, the error is in the source.
Space4Time3Continuum2x
🖖 12:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
The article bears a startling resemblance to the page of Samuel Shay, the chairman of the Israel-UAR business forum. So who copied whom?
The exact same wording in WP and on LinkedIn page: On October 23, 2020 Israel and Sudan agreed to normalize ties, making Sudan the third Arab country to set aside hostilities in two months. The agreement was negotiated on the U.S. side by Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner, Middle East envoy Avi Berkowitz, national security adviser Robert O’Brien, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security official Miguel Correa.
Another oddity: The second sentence crediting Kushner et al was also cited verbatim by several news outlets: Reuters, NBC, Asharq Al-Awsat, Globe and Mail, Telegraph, and others. Space4Time3Continuum2x 🖖 16:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
"As part of the agreement, the U.S. removed Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism and giving it a US$1.2 billion loan."
Shouldn't the sentence read:
"As part of the agreement, the U.S. removed Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism and gave it a US$1.2 billion loan." JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 01:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
"...committed peace broker Bill Clinton" Sennis1 ( talk) 13:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)