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The final phrase of the Personal section referring to Danny Thomas is problematical in two ways. The choice of the word "retractor" is ambiguous if not clearly inappropriate. The word the editor was reaching for may have been "detractor", although in the absence of sources (or even adequate context) it is difficult to say. The other problem is, of course, the need for a citation verifying this assertion. A routine series of on-line searches turned up nothing. The location of the existing citation was moved to before this assertion, as its content related to the religious aspects but made no reference to Mr. Thomas.
The connection with Danny Thomas in this context appears to be related the latter's well-known association with the St. Jude's Children's Hospital, although it might be better to also clarify this association, particularly for readers who may not have "grown up with" Danny Thomas. Mrnatural ( talk) 17:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
The article mentions a Cajun influence, but I don't buy it. No zydeco either. He's just one more unique New Orleans singer, where there are so many. Ortolan88 16:55, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand the Cajun reference either. Did the author mean Creole? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.220.2 ( talk) 18:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Good working adding the Worst Star Spangled Banner EVER part, I was about to.
You're forgetting Roseanne Barr, and MANY others. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1889754_1889752_1889689,00.html
Anonymous users: please stop reverting this article or removing information about Neville's Superbowl performance. As you can see from the discussion below, this issue has been settled. You are welcome to contribute to this article, but removing information repeatedly without explaining yourself on the talk page is considered vandalism. -- NEMT 22:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
"Neville sang what is considered by many to be the worst rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner ever performed at a professional sporting event, alongside Aretha Franklin at Super Bowl XL in Detroit." This is NOT a POV statement, it is a factual statement based on the reaction from the millions of people who watched Superbowl XL. If the sentence said "Neville sang the worst rendition..." it could possible be considered a POV violation, however, the way it is now is simply expressing a known fact. Disagree? Ask anyone who watched it, there is a broad consensus it was a disgrace, and one of the worst performances in the history of professional sports anthems. Stop removing it or you will be reported for vandalism. 153.104.16.114 18:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I completley agree that it was a horrible rendition, but just saying many thought it to be the worst isn't enough. If you could site your sources somehow, then it could be allowed. I won't remove it until you respond, though. Howabout1 20:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Edited the page just before you edited this. I went ahead and removed it. Although I personally agree with the statement, my instict is that a statement like this absolutely needs to cite to well-known sources and probably also credit that opinion to said sources in its text...not just frame the opinion as a blanket statement.
Interestingstuffadder
20:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Surely if this was such a bad rendition someone notable mentioned it. Dis Leno or Letterman make a joke about it? Did a columnist write about ir? There are always many reviews of the super bowl entertainment, did one say his singing was bad (i think i recall seeing one that said he was overdhadowed by Aretha and said his voice was soft or something along those lines, but didnt go far as to say he was bad). I am sure there is something out there. That source would be encyclopedic...allegedly widely shared opinions are not. Thus, until someone finds a source this just shouldnt be here. Don't get me wrong or mistake me for an Aaron Neville teoll, I think Neville absolutely sucks and I agree with you about the anthem. I want to see something about the anthem included, but understand that it must be properly cited. Interestingstuffadder 01:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sort of at a loss as to what the appropriate course of action is for these. There have been a number of nasty quotes about AN by comedians, obscure rappers, etc. added to the pop culture section by named and anon users. I have been rv-ing them but I'm not sure if this is what is called for. They are mentions of Neville in pop culture certainly but they don't seem like the sort of things that should be in an encyclopedia article. Plus I had no idea that having a mole on one's face could inspire so much hatred. Josh 12:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I've just added a brief paragraph about mean-spirited remarks directed at Neville's mole to the Pop Cultural References. I felt that the presence of such meanness and such hatred should at least be mentioned, even if only to acknowledge that such stupidity indeed exists. I in no way meant to criticize Mr. Neville, as I hope the tone indicates. Any suggestions are welcome, but I feel as if something should be mentioned in the article (esp given the comment above). Townshonor 23:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Neville discusses his strong faith at length in most every interview or public appearance I can recall. He's very very demonstrative (almost to the point of risking offense to secular audiences). It seems odd to me that this wouldn't be mentioned in the article. Also...
The paragraphs discussing his various performances are really choppy in style and in phrasing...someone should take some time to overhaul the prose. I don't know anything, really, about Neville...it needs to be somebody with some background familiarity with Neville's work.
Neville's debut was certainly not in 1966--he had cut a number of singles for Minit Records, going back to 1960's "Over You" (which was a minor national hit). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.7.225 ( talk) 19:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of his appearance on Kenny G's breathless album? that's probably his biggest hit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.202.66.170 ( talk) 09:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
And his Adult Top40 hit with Linda Ronstadt on "Close My Eyes"? 216.196.68.210 ( talk) 00:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Neville had a rather lengthy cameo appearance as a New Orleans bartender in the 1991 movie "Zandalee," starring Nicholas Cage, directed by Sam Pillsbury. It's worth mentioning as it was a more serious attempt at acting than some of the TV appearances (although the movie was generally not memorable). Also, a statement appears on YouTube claiming that Neville was convicted of a felony crime. If true, the information should be included. Finally, YouTube also lists Ernie Neville, who's not listed as a band member in this article, on many of Aaron's songs. 58.8.16.44 ( talk) 15:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Neville had a rather lengthy cameo appearance as a New Orleans bartender in the 1991 movie "Zandalee," starring Nicholas Cage, directed by Sam Pillsbury. It's worth mentioning as it was a more serious attempt at acting than some of the TV appearances (although the movie was generally not memorable). Also, a statement appears on YouTube claiming that Neville was convicted of a felony crime. If true, the information should be included. Finally, YouTube also lists Ernie Neville, who's not listed as a band member in this article, on many of Aaron's songs. 58.8.16.44 ( talk) 15:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is it? Was the Album released in 1965, the single in 1966 & the chart-topping position reached in 1967? - or what? Please clarify! Gwladys24 ( talk) 16:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I own a Xmas album recorded by Aaron Neville, which is not Christmas prayer listed in the Discography section. Entitled Aaron Neville's Soulful Christmas, it was released in 1993 and contains 11 tracks. I'm surprised to see it is not indicated in this article. 86.67.220.136 ( talk) 14:01, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Mike
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See vandalism ... reference to "Aaron has sex with little boys." 71.202.28.242 ( talk) 07:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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The final phrase of the Personal section referring to Danny Thomas is problematical in two ways. The choice of the word "retractor" is ambiguous if not clearly inappropriate. The word the editor was reaching for may have been "detractor", although in the absence of sources (or even adequate context) it is difficult to say. The other problem is, of course, the need for a citation verifying this assertion. A routine series of on-line searches turned up nothing. The location of the existing citation was moved to before this assertion, as its content related to the religious aspects but made no reference to Mr. Thomas.
The connection with Danny Thomas in this context appears to be related the latter's well-known association with the St. Jude's Children's Hospital, although it might be better to also clarify this association, particularly for readers who may not have "grown up with" Danny Thomas. Mrnatural ( talk) 17:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
The article mentions a Cajun influence, but I don't buy it. No zydeco either. He's just one more unique New Orleans singer, where there are so many. Ortolan88 16:55, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand the Cajun reference either. Did the author mean Creole? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.220.2 ( talk) 18:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Good working adding the Worst Star Spangled Banner EVER part, I was about to.
You're forgetting Roseanne Barr, and MANY others. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1889754_1889752_1889689,00.html
Anonymous users: please stop reverting this article or removing information about Neville's Superbowl performance. As you can see from the discussion below, this issue has been settled. You are welcome to contribute to this article, but removing information repeatedly without explaining yourself on the talk page is considered vandalism. -- NEMT 22:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
"Neville sang what is considered by many to be the worst rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner ever performed at a professional sporting event, alongside Aretha Franklin at Super Bowl XL in Detroit." This is NOT a POV statement, it is a factual statement based on the reaction from the millions of people who watched Superbowl XL. If the sentence said "Neville sang the worst rendition..." it could possible be considered a POV violation, however, the way it is now is simply expressing a known fact. Disagree? Ask anyone who watched it, there is a broad consensus it was a disgrace, and one of the worst performances in the history of professional sports anthems. Stop removing it or you will be reported for vandalism. 153.104.16.114 18:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I completley agree that it was a horrible rendition, but just saying many thought it to be the worst isn't enough. If you could site your sources somehow, then it could be allowed. I won't remove it until you respond, though. Howabout1 20:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Edited the page just before you edited this. I went ahead and removed it. Although I personally agree with the statement, my instict is that a statement like this absolutely needs to cite to well-known sources and probably also credit that opinion to said sources in its text...not just frame the opinion as a blanket statement.
Interestingstuffadder
20:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Surely if this was such a bad rendition someone notable mentioned it. Dis Leno or Letterman make a joke about it? Did a columnist write about ir? There are always many reviews of the super bowl entertainment, did one say his singing was bad (i think i recall seeing one that said he was overdhadowed by Aretha and said his voice was soft or something along those lines, but didnt go far as to say he was bad). I am sure there is something out there. That source would be encyclopedic...allegedly widely shared opinions are not. Thus, until someone finds a source this just shouldnt be here. Don't get me wrong or mistake me for an Aaron Neville teoll, I think Neville absolutely sucks and I agree with you about the anthem. I want to see something about the anthem included, but understand that it must be properly cited. Interestingstuffadder 01:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sort of at a loss as to what the appropriate course of action is for these. There have been a number of nasty quotes about AN by comedians, obscure rappers, etc. added to the pop culture section by named and anon users. I have been rv-ing them but I'm not sure if this is what is called for. They are mentions of Neville in pop culture certainly but they don't seem like the sort of things that should be in an encyclopedia article. Plus I had no idea that having a mole on one's face could inspire so much hatred. Josh 12:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I've just added a brief paragraph about mean-spirited remarks directed at Neville's mole to the Pop Cultural References. I felt that the presence of such meanness and such hatred should at least be mentioned, even if only to acknowledge that such stupidity indeed exists. I in no way meant to criticize Mr. Neville, as I hope the tone indicates. Any suggestions are welcome, but I feel as if something should be mentioned in the article (esp given the comment above). Townshonor 23:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Neville discusses his strong faith at length in most every interview or public appearance I can recall. He's very very demonstrative (almost to the point of risking offense to secular audiences). It seems odd to me that this wouldn't be mentioned in the article. Also...
The paragraphs discussing his various performances are really choppy in style and in phrasing...someone should take some time to overhaul the prose. I don't know anything, really, about Neville...it needs to be somebody with some background familiarity with Neville's work.
Neville's debut was certainly not in 1966--he had cut a number of singles for Minit Records, going back to 1960's "Over You" (which was a minor national hit). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.7.225 ( talk) 19:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of his appearance on Kenny G's breathless album? that's probably his biggest hit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.202.66.170 ( talk) 09:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
And his Adult Top40 hit with Linda Ronstadt on "Close My Eyes"? 216.196.68.210 ( talk) 00:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Neville had a rather lengthy cameo appearance as a New Orleans bartender in the 1991 movie "Zandalee," starring Nicholas Cage, directed by Sam Pillsbury. It's worth mentioning as it was a more serious attempt at acting than some of the TV appearances (although the movie was generally not memorable). Also, a statement appears on YouTube claiming that Neville was convicted of a felony crime. If true, the information should be included. Finally, YouTube also lists Ernie Neville, who's not listed as a band member in this article, on many of Aaron's songs. 58.8.16.44 ( talk) 15:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Neville had a rather lengthy cameo appearance as a New Orleans bartender in the 1991 movie "Zandalee," starring Nicholas Cage, directed by Sam Pillsbury. It's worth mentioning as it was a more serious attempt at acting than some of the TV appearances (although the movie was generally not memorable). Also, a statement appears on YouTube claiming that Neville was convicted of a felony crime. If true, the information should be included. Finally, YouTube also lists Ernie Neville, who's not listed as a band member in this article, on many of Aaron's songs. 58.8.16.44 ( talk) 15:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is it? Was the Album released in 1965, the single in 1966 & the chart-topping position reached in 1967? - or what? Please clarify! Gwladys24 ( talk) 16:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I own a Xmas album recorded by Aaron Neville, which is not Christmas prayer listed in the Discography section. Entitled Aaron Neville's Soulful Christmas, it was released in 1993 and contains 11 tracks. I'm surprised to see it is not indicated in this article. 86.67.220.136 ( talk) 14:01, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Mike
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See vandalism ... reference to "Aaron has sex with little boys." 71.202.28.242 ( talk) 07:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out -
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