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I feel we might need to clarify the article:
It originally stated
I have modified this to
AFAIK this the modification I have made is more correct. Westpac is the largest bank according to their website [1] and the ANZ website does not claim they are the leading bank either [2]. I think one of the problems is the article is confusing at the moment. In NZ, as the article alludes to, ANZ and the National Bank are now part of the ANZ National Bank Limited group. AFAIK, this group is the largest banking groups in NZ. However ANZ and National still appear to operate as largely seperate entities in NZ. So perhaps we need to clarify these details. Someone who knows a bit more could help.
ALso, could someone confirm it is the largest company? I know Fonterra is sometimes considered the largest company although as a cooperative group, they aren't quite the same as a normal publicly traded company I believe... Nil Einne 00:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The company's correct title is simply ANZ, not ANZ Bank, or The ANZ, this should be reflected in the title. There has been a recent initiative to reduce the inconsistencies around the name. Vespine 06:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
According to the website, anznational.co.nz, the full name of the registered bank in New Zealand is ANZ National Bank Limited. it should be noted also that ANZ Australia and ANZ New Zealand are run by one parent company, "Australia New Zealand Banking group" as seperate entities. This is because of different banking laws between the countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.9.234 ( talk) 10:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I have added Internal links to this article. Kathleen.wright5 13:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I have reversed Links to Pages Not Yet Created. Kathleen>wright5 23:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have some concern about the Roger Awards section added by Savage lucy on 14th December 2008. I totally agree that any negative information on the organisation should be included in an article, however a special section for an award that wasn't actually won and that I have never heard of (and clearly not very well known because it requies a description within this page) seems a bit excessive.
I would suggest removing the complete description of the awards, for example, Michael Jackson's wikipedia page states "13 Grammy Awards" with just a link to Grammy Awards, rather than saying "13 Grammy Awards, which recognises outstanding achievements in the music industry and are run by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences".
Secondly, I believe that this section should belong on the ANZ National Bank wikipedia page, this wikipedia page clearly states it is an Australian Company, yet the Roger Awards section mentions that profits are heading offshore, this is a statement regarding it's New Zealand subsidiary and not the ANZ Group itself, as are references such as "rip-off credit card customers" and profit statements which are not based on any data outside of the New Zealand subsidy.
What are people's opinions on this section? I am thinking it is best moving this section to the ANZ National Bank page under a general heading such a Criticism and shorten this down to 1-2 paragraphs at max. Cj au ( talk) 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I've restored ANZ's coat of arms to the article. They are acurate and were correctly referenced. I have seen the source. These are actually the second set of arms granted to ANZ. Cheers! A1 Aardvark ( talk) 03:28, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
As I understand It World Headquarters are now Located at 833 Collins Street Docklands. So maybe this should be changed, I would change this but I have only seen it referenced as Global Headquarters. But I work in this building and can say the executives have moved in and Mike Smith's office is now here. I will get a new photo this week and if no one complains or objects, change world Headquarters in the article to 833 Collins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.32.137 ( talk) 15:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
At least there is this picture. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:StateLibQld_1_259160_Union_Bank_of_Australia,_Dalby,_ca._1935.jpg -- Mats33 ( talk) 18:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
This account appears to have been created with the sole purpose of adding disparaging POV information sourced solely from the news media into this article. Almost all of the information as written is not without dispute and provides none of the contrary claims. Vespine ( talk) 05:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I dispute this "factoid" has a place in the article. So what? Without any kind of context this piece of trivia is entirely unremarkable and uncontroversial. How does this compare to other companies? Does it mean ANZ actually enforces its codes of conduct? Vespine ( talk) 21:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
This is NOT what the articles are about, again, wikipedia is NOT a news source. The articles are about 2 traders that have taken ANZ to court over unfair dismissal. The particular details of that case are a matter of debate, the fact that certain allegations have been made is not encyclopedic. If every company had to list every unfair dismissal case they had to defend in court and every allegation made against them, that's all the article would be about. I do not see how this is relevant or notable to the company's wikipedia article. Vespine ( talk) 21:48, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing it, I do not see a special need for the section. The whole thing was started by Mainbanker872 whose subsequent edits and comments lead me to believe the edits were not in good faith. The information that is left here which is a fraction of what mainbaker872 originally tried to add, while I agree it is now NPOV, I really don't think it's particularly Notable. Vespine ( talk) 21:59, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi User:Eddaido I noticed you reverted my recent edit here and I was wondering why since there is a tag on that section requesting that the information in list format be converted to prose. Since other portions of the history section are in prose, I felt it made more sense for the later decades to also be in prose. Could you let me know what issues you had with my edit? Thanks. WonderfulWorld ( talk) 18:32, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
What of ANZ's A$DC stablecoin, the first stablecoin issued by an Australian bank? A bit of a change from refusing to deal with Bitcoin. See e.g. {{cite news|url= https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/anz-stablecoin-a-dc-used-to-buy-tokenised-carbon-credit-units-20220624-p5awb0||title=ANZ stablecoin A$DC used to buy ‘tokenised’ carbon credit units|work=Australian Financial Review|date=27 June 2022}} and several articles in cryptocurrency media about its launch. Errantios ( talk) 08:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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I feel we might need to clarify the article:
It originally stated
I have modified this to
AFAIK this the modification I have made is more correct. Westpac is the largest bank according to their website [1] and the ANZ website does not claim they are the leading bank either [2]. I think one of the problems is the article is confusing at the moment. In NZ, as the article alludes to, ANZ and the National Bank are now part of the ANZ National Bank Limited group. AFAIK, this group is the largest banking groups in NZ. However ANZ and National still appear to operate as largely seperate entities in NZ. So perhaps we need to clarify these details. Someone who knows a bit more could help.
ALso, could someone confirm it is the largest company? I know Fonterra is sometimes considered the largest company although as a cooperative group, they aren't quite the same as a normal publicly traded company I believe... Nil Einne 00:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The company's correct title is simply ANZ, not ANZ Bank, or The ANZ, this should be reflected in the title. There has been a recent initiative to reduce the inconsistencies around the name. Vespine 06:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
According to the website, anznational.co.nz, the full name of the registered bank in New Zealand is ANZ National Bank Limited. it should be noted also that ANZ Australia and ANZ New Zealand are run by one parent company, "Australia New Zealand Banking group" as seperate entities. This is because of different banking laws between the countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.9.234 ( talk) 10:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I have added Internal links to this article. Kathleen.wright5 13:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I have reversed Links to Pages Not Yet Created. Kathleen>wright5 23:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have some concern about the Roger Awards section added by Savage lucy on 14th December 2008. I totally agree that any negative information on the organisation should be included in an article, however a special section for an award that wasn't actually won and that I have never heard of (and clearly not very well known because it requies a description within this page) seems a bit excessive.
I would suggest removing the complete description of the awards, for example, Michael Jackson's wikipedia page states "13 Grammy Awards" with just a link to Grammy Awards, rather than saying "13 Grammy Awards, which recognises outstanding achievements in the music industry and are run by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences".
Secondly, I believe that this section should belong on the ANZ National Bank wikipedia page, this wikipedia page clearly states it is an Australian Company, yet the Roger Awards section mentions that profits are heading offshore, this is a statement regarding it's New Zealand subsidiary and not the ANZ Group itself, as are references such as "rip-off credit card customers" and profit statements which are not based on any data outside of the New Zealand subsidy.
What are people's opinions on this section? I am thinking it is best moving this section to the ANZ National Bank page under a general heading such a Criticism and shorten this down to 1-2 paragraphs at max. Cj au ( talk) 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I've restored ANZ's coat of arms to the article. They are acurate and were correctly referenced. I have seen the source. These are actually the second set of arms granted to ANZ. Cheers! A1 Aardvark ( talk) 03:28, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
As I understand It World Headquarters are now Located at 833 Collins Street Docklands. So maybe this should be changed, I would change this but I have only seen it referenced as Global Headquarters. But I work in this building and can say the executives have moved in and Mike Smith's office is now here. I will get a new photo this week and if no one complains or objects, change world Headquarters in the article to 833 Collins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.32.137 ( talk) 15:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
At least there is this picture. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:StateLibQld_1_259160_Union_Bank_of_Australia,_Dalby,_ca._1935.jpg -- Mats33 ( talk) 18:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
This account appears to have been created with the sole purpose of adding disparaging POV information sourced solely from the news media into this article. Almost all of the information as written is not without dispute and provides none of the contrary claims. Vespine ( talk) 05:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I dispute this "factoid" has a place in the article. So what? Without any kind of context this piece of trivia is entirely unremarkable and uncontroversial. How does this compare to other companies? Does it mean ANZ actually enforces its codes of conduct? Vespine ( talk) 21:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
This is NOT what the articles are about, again, wikipedia is NOT a news source. The articles are about 2 traders that have taken ANZ to court over unfair dismissal. The particular details of that case are a matter of debate, the fact that certain allegations have been made is not encyclopedic. If every company had to list every unfair dismissal case they had to defend in court and every allegation made against them, that's all the article would be about. I do not see how this is relevant or notable to the company's wikipedia article. Vespine ( talk) 21:48, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing it, I do not see a special need for the section. The whole thing was started by Mainbanker872 whose subsequent edits and comments lead me to believe the edits were not in good faith. The information that is left here which is a fraction of what mainbaker872 originally tried to add, while I agree it is now NPOV, I really don't think it's particularly Notable. Vespine ( talk) 21:59, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi User:Eddaido I noticed you reverted my recent edit here and I was wondering why since there is a tag on that section requesting that the information in list format be converted to prose. Since other portions of the history section are in prose, I felt it made more sense for the later decades to also be in prose. Could you let me know what issues you had with my edit? Thanks. WonderfulWorld ( talk) 18:32, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
What of ANZ's A$DC stablecoin, the first stablecoin issued by an Australian bank? A bit of a change from refusing to deal with Bitcoin. See e.g. {{cite news|url= https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/anz-stablecoin-a-dc-used-to-buy-tokenised-carbon-credit-units-20220624-p5awb0||title=ANZ stablecoin A$DC used to buy ‘tokenised’ carbon credit units|work=Australian Financial Review|date=27 June 2022}} and several articles in cryptocurrency media about its launch. Errantios ( talk) 08:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)