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Much of this article seems to be full of marketspeak (which is often misleading and/or nonsensical/non-objective in nature). An addition to the simple changes I made earlier, I've changed:
which will provide better opportunity for diversification at the platform level.
to
making differences in design between different platforms easier.
I believe that's what the writer was intending to say. If the original contributor believes it different, please correct it. -- Tene 11:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Err, we are using the inq as a factual news source?
More truth comes from a politician than from the inq.
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37444
Let's forget what the Inq report is factually correct or not at this moment...
In this report, it reads
While Intel and the rest of the industry was using the codename K8L for AMD's next-gen architecture revamp, K8L existed only in AMD's expired internal roadmaps a long, long time ago. The "L" suffix in K8L actually meant Low-Power, a description for the Turion 64, which was introduced years ago. K9 was actually a codename for the dual-core family, only introduced after Turion's debut in Las Vegas.
— Giuseppe Amato, technical director of marketing and sales for the EMEA region, interview report
And What the heck is going on here!!?
P.S. move tag anyone? -- 202.71.240.18 10:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
K9 was the AMD X2 dual core processors. Barcelona is of the K10 design.
Selectodude
03:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. Andrewa 16:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
AMD K8L →
AMD K10 – Interview from AMD officials confirmed that, see reference link —
202.71.240.18
10:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
reference link:
The Inquirer report
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Please merge any relevant content from Agena (processor), Kuma (processor), and Rana (processor) per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agena (processor). Thanks. — Quarl ( talk) 2007-02-11 04:55Z
First, according to Tom Yager at InfoWorld, Torrenza is code name for the Next Gen platform, not K8L. Further, Barcelona is said to be the first chip from this intiative. [1]. K8L was Turion 64, as already mentioned in the article lead. Assuming this is true, most of the article needs transplanted to Torrenza since K8L is likely to have been the Turion 64.
Further, saying that we're going to stick to calling K8L and Barcelona the same thing, there is a lot of current information that exists about the first chip coming soon, Barcelona, but is not in this article. According to reports, it's to be 40% than Cloverton, and will be released mid-2007 [2]. Further, it's supposed to have 128 bit wide SSE, be 80% faster in floating point over Opteron, offer new VM and power management techniques. Dedicated L2 cache per core, and a L3 cache [3]. So, again, this is the biggest revamp since 2003. The first L3, and 65nm process for AMD [4]. Nja247 ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Why no information on this up and coming product? There's a lot of info about it on the web. 82.45.240.51 17:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Appendix - the example:
Arllt3 05:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Giuseppe Amato confirmed that in an video, as i say in the article. He already said this in an news of the Inquirer, mentionned in the article. We took this with precautions, because it was precisely from the Inquirer. And everybody knows the legendary reliability of the Inq...
But now, no doubt is allowed. "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" is the K10. So, i think the article sould be largely modified by someone more experimented that me in Wikipedia. To modify both K8L and K10 articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arllt3 ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
If you are AMD, you put two Shanghais on an MCM and get to eight cores. How? HT3.
— Charlie Demerjian, The Inquirer report
Ouch! Isn't that a kind of K11? Go! Start a new page for that!! DAAMIT. -- 202.71.240.18 11:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Arllt3 20:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Two things: It comes form the Inq, and it is dated from first April. An April fish ?
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456&Itemid=1
Nice going, AMD!
Live demo of AMD K8L/K10 + R600 + RD790 = cute!
Hope can give you more cash in Q3. :p -- 202.40.137.202 03:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
AMD K8L →
AMD K10 — The name K10 has been confirmed by an official source. I see no reason why the article would continue to be named "AMD K8L" after this. K8L was mere speculation, but stuck in the mainstream press as there was no other name for it. The previous nomination resulted in no consensus, as there was only one vote.
♠ SG
→Talk
03:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The consensus is for a move to AMD K10. However, that article already exists and covers a similar, if not identical, topic. The two articles should be merged. -- Stemonitis 07:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The AMD K8L and the "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" mentioned in this article -- is this the same as AMD Next Generation Microarchitecture ? If so, please merge. -- 68.0.124.33 ( talk) 23:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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Much of this article seems to be full of marketspeak (which is often misleading and/or nonsensical/non-objective in nature). An addition to the simple changes I made earlier, I've changed:
which will provide better opportunity for diversification at the platform level.
to
making differences in design between different platforms easier.
I believe that's what the writer was intending to say. If the original contributor believes it different, please correct it. -- Tene 11:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Err, we are using the inq as a factual news source?
More truth comes from a politician than from the inq.
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37444
Let's forget what the Inq report is factually correct or not at this moment...
In this report, it reads
While Intel and the rest of the industry was using the codename K8L for AMD's next-gen architecture revamp, K8L existed only in AMD's expired internal roadmaps a long, long time ago. The "L" suffix in K8L actually meant Low-Power, a description for the Turion 64, which was introduced years ago. K9 was actually a codename for the dual-core family, only introduced after Turion's debut in Las Vegas.
— Giuseppe Amato, technical director of marketing and sales for the EMEA region, interview report
And What the heck is going on here!!?
P.S. move tag anyone? -- 202.71.240.18 10:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
K9 was the AMD X2 dual core processors. Barcelona is of the K10 design.
Selectodude
03:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. Andrewa 16:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
AMD K8L →
AMD K10 – Interview from AMD officials confirmed that, see reference link —
202.71.240.18
10:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
reference link:
The Inquirer report
Add "# Support" or "# Oppose" on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
Add any additional comments here
Please merge any relevant content from Agena (processor), Kuma (processor), and Rana (processor) per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agena (processor). Thanks. — Quarl ( talk) 2007-02-11 04:55Z
First, according to Tom Yager at InfoWorld, Torrenza is code name for the Next Gen platform, not K8L. Further, Barcelona is said to be the first chip from this intiative. [1]. K8L was Turion 64, as already mentioned in the article lead. Assuming this is true, most of the article needs transplanted to Torrenza since K8L is likely to have been the Turion 64.
Further, saying that we're going to stick to calling K8L and Barcelona the same thing, there is a lot of current information that exists about the first chip coming soon, Barcelona, but is not in this article. According to reports, it's to be 40% than Cloverton, and will be released mid-2007 [2]. Further, it's supposed to have 128 bit wide SSE, be 80% faster in floating point over Opteron, offer new VM and power management techniques. Dedicated L2 cache per core, and a L3 cache [3]. So, again, this is the biggest revamp since 2003. The first L3, and 65nm process for AMD [4]. Nja247 ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Why no information on this up and coming product? There's a lot of info about it on the web. 82.45.240.51 17:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Appendix - the example:
Arllt3 05:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Giuseppe Amato confirmed that in an video, as i say in the article. He already said this in an news of the Inquirer, mentionned in the article. We took this with precautions, because it was precisely from the Inquirer. And everybody knows the legendary reliability of the Inq...
But now, no doubt is allowed. "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" is the K10. So, i think the article sould be largely modified by someone more experimented that me in Wikipedia. To modify both K8L and K10 articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arllt3 ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
If you are AMD, you put two Shanghais on an MCM and get to eight cores. How? HT3.
— Charlie Demerjian, The Inquirer report
Ouch! Isn't that a kind of K11? Go! Start a new page for that!! DAAMIT. -- 202.71.240.18 11:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Arllt3 20:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Two things: It comes form the Inq, and it is dated from first April. An April fish ?
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456&Itemid=1
Nice going, AMD!
Live demo of AMD K8L/K10 + R600 + RD790 = cute!
Hope can give you more cash in Q3. :p -- 202.40.137.202 03:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
AMD K8L →
AMD K10 — The name K10 has been confirmed by an official source. I see no reason why the article would continue to be named "AMD K8L" after this. K8L was mere speculation, but stuck in the mainstream press as there was no other name for it. The previous nomination resulted in no consensus, as there was only one vote.
♠ SG
→Talk
03:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The consensus is for a move to AMD K10. However, that article already exists and covers a similar, if not identical, topic. The two articles should be merged. -- Stemonitis 07:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The AMD K8L and the "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" mentioned in this article -- is this the same as AMD Next Generation Microarchitecture ? If so, please merge. -- 68.0.124.33 ( talk) 23:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)