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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:46, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
AFP (disambiguation) → AFP — the original AFP page already was a disambiguation page — Ewlyahoocom 08:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.— EncMstr 17:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article AFP should redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse with a disambiguation link to AFP (disambiguation). What do you think? -- Click me! write to me 02:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC) (Polls not opened. Opinions are welcome)--02:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)~~
No, AFP should not redirect to Agence France Presse, at the inconvenience of editors of all other pages to which "AFP" applies. I request that AFP (disambiguation) be moved back to AFP. -- Una Smith 01:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe the problem with the redirect isn't obvious to everyone? The purpose of a disambiguation page is to accumulate ambiguous links, so that editors can go back later and look at "what links here" and fix all the links in a batch. I just did that for AFP. Many of the links I fixed did intend Agence France-Presse but not by a vast majority, maybe not any majority. Making AFP a redirect to Agence France-Presse solves nothing. The redirect might make it easier for some editors to be lazy at other editors' expense. That is because if AFP is a redirect yet continues to accumulate ambiguous links (as can be expected), then future editors who want to do the disambiguation will have to pick out the ambiguous links from the convenience links (links to AFP chosen deliberately as a shorthand for Agence France-Presse). Normally, all mainspace links to a disambiguation page should be temporary, waiting for an editor to fix them. Convenience links are convenient for anyone only if they are permanent; if they are intended to be temporary too, then making AFP a redirect serves absolutely no purpose. -- Una Smith 05:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Stop redirecting AFP to Agence France Presse (or whatever it is called). -- Una Smith 01:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Many, many cancer-related and other medical pages used to link to AFP because AFP is one of the oldest and most often used markers for tumors and for prenatal testing in pregnant women. But a long time ago I went through the medical links to AFP and fixed them all so that they point correctly (unambiguously) to alpha-fetoprotein. That left mostly links to AFP that should link instead to Agence France-Presse and several other AFPs. I have now cleaned up all those other bad links too. -- Una Smith 17:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Internal links should not lead to disambiguation page. If
AFP is used as
alpha-fetoprotein, we need to link them directly to the
article. NOT doing this would be lazy editing. --
Kushal
t
02:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Correct. So, Kushal, you would oppose making AFP a redirect to just one of the (currently) 24 topics to which AFP can refer? In other words, you would support returning AFP to its original function, a disambiguation page? -- Una Smith 16:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone who knows more about how to edit Wikipedia than I do should add "air filled porosity" as another entry under AFP disambiguation/definition (as it relates to horticulture--orchids in particular). 24.106.207.222 ( talk) 20:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. ( non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 10:03, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
AFP →
AFP (disambiguation) – so that AFP be redirected to
Agence France-Presse. Agence France-Presse is a major news service like BBC, NYT and Reuters that people from all walks of life in different countries see in the news every day. None of other topics are comparable.
Roy17 (
talk)
23:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
site:bbc.com AFP
you'll find a mix of articles referring to the news service, the police agency, and a smattering of other topics. However, the articles primarily refer to the news agency as "AFP", whereas they refer to the police force as "Australian Federal Police" (and then will sometimes lapse into using the abbreviation after introducing the full name). It seems to me that "AFP" is the bona fide
WP:COMMONNAME for the news agency in English language sources, whereas this is not true of the Australian Federal Police. In some cases, articles use the name "AFP" to refer to the news agency without even providing any further qualifiers (e.g. "AFP news agency") or giving the full expanded name.
Example.
Colin M (
talk)
16:07, 17 September 2019 (UTC)This disambiguation page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:46, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
AFP (disambiguation) → AFP — the original AFP page already was a disambiguation page — Ewlyahoocom 08:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.— EncMstr 17:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article AFP should redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse with a disambiguation link to AFP (disambiguation). What do you think? -- Click me! write to me 02:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC) (Polls not opened. Opinions are welcome)--02:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)~~
No, AFP should not redirect to Agence France Presse, at the inconvenience of editors of all other pages to which "AFP" applies. I request that AFP (disambiguation) be moved back to AFP. -- Una Smith 01:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe the problem with the redirect isn't obvious to everyone? The purpose of a disambiguation page is to accumulate ambiguous links, so that editors can go back later and look at "what links here" and fix all the links in a batch. I just did that for AFP. Many of the links I fixed did intend Agence France-Presse but not by a vast majority, maybe not any majority. Making AFP a redirect to Agence France-Presse solves nothing. The redirect might make it easier for some editors to be lazy at other editors' expense. That is because if AFP is a redirect yet continues to accumulate ambiguous links (as can be expected), then future editors who want to do the disambiguation will have to pick out the ambiguous links from the convenience links (links to AFP chosen deliberately as a shorthand for Agence France-Presse). Normally, all mainspace links to a disambiguation page should be temporary, waiting for an editor to fix them. Convenience links are convenient for anyone only if they are permanent; if they are intended to be temporary too, then making AFP a redirect serves absolutely no purpose. -- Una Smith 05:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Stop redirecting AFP to Agence France Presse (or whatever it is called). -- Una Smith 01:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Many, many cancer-related and other medical pages used to link to AFP because AFP is one of the oldest and most often used markers for tumors and for prenatal testing in pregnant women. But a long time ago I went through the medical links to AFP and fixed them all so that they point correctly (unambiguously) to alpha-fetoprotein. That left mostly links to AFP that should link instead to Agence France-Presse and several other AFPs. I have now cleaned up all those other bad links too. -- Una Smith 17:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Internal links should not lead to disambiguation page. If
AFP is used as
alpha-fetoprotein, we need to link them directly to the
article. NOT doing this would be lazy editing. --
Kushal
t
02:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Correct. So, Kushal, you would oppose making AFP a redirect to just one of the (currently) 24 topics to which AFP can refer? In other words, you would support returning AFP to its original function, a disambiguation page? -- Una Smith 16:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone who knows more about how to edit Wikipedia than I do should add "air filled porosity" as another entry under AFP disambiguation/definition (as it relates to horticulture--orchids in particular). 24.106.207.222 ( talk) 20:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. ( non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 10:03, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
AFP →
AFP (disambiguation) – so that AFP be redirected to
Agence France-Presse. Agence France-Presse is a major news service like BBC, NYT and Reuters that people from all walks of life in different countries see in the news every day. None of other topics are comparable.
Roy17 (
talk)
23:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
site:bbc.com AFP
you'll find a mix of articles referring to the news service, the police agency, and a smattering of other topics. However, the articles primarily refer to the news agency as "AFP", whereas they refer to the police force as "Australian Federal Police" (and then will sometimes lapse into using the abbreviation after introducing the full name). It seems to me that "AFP" is the bona fide
WP:COMMONNAME for the news agency in English language sources, whereas this is not true of the Australian Federal Police. In some cases, articles use the name "AFP" to refer to the news agency without even providing any further qualifiers (e.g. "AFP news agency") or giving the full expanded name.
Example.
Colin M (
talk)
16:07, 17 September 2019 (UTC)