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Jamie Maclaren is now Leading Goalscorer in the league 143. Get it changed from Berisha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.12.11.151 ( talk) 00:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
The ladder graphic explaining which team is which is inaccurate and contrary to the explanation text. Looking at the ladder you would think in the semis number 1 plays the winner of 3 vs 6, and 2 plays the winner of 4 vs 5. Yes, the text in the graphic gets it correct, but what's the point of a graphic if only the text is correct?
I recommend the following instead
Elimination Finals | Semi Finals | Grand Final |
---|---|---|
3 vs 6 | 1 vs Lowest Rank winner of Elimination Finals | Winners of Semi Finals |
4 vs 5 | 2 vs Highest Rank winner of Elimination Finals |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.119.19.20 ( talk) 21:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Why are there teams listed on the Championships/premierships tables that haven't won anything? It seems pointless. A team should only be listed here if they have won something. Does anyone mind if they are removed? Anderch ( talk) 02:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I noticed at some point the information about current champions and most championships was removed from the infobox. I couldn't find anything on the talk page about it, so I have restored this content. -- Chuq (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
The text above is in the Origins section, but there is no elaboration on it, and it doesn't seem to crack a mention in any of the sources. What was the deal? What was wrong with it? Can we source it? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:16, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently reads:
The following do not fill a Visa position: 1Those players who were born and started their professional career abroad but have since gained Australian Residency (and New Zealand Residency, in the case of Wellington Phoenix); 2Australian residents (and New Zealand residents, in the case of Wellington Phoenix) who have chosen to represent another national team;
Is there a reliable source that says that an Australian resident (rather than a citizen) qualifies as a local? Hack ( talk) 13:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would like to move the existing Asian Champions League and National Youth League sub-sections into a new section to be called Related competitions as they aren't DIRECTLY part of the A-League so I don't think should be in the Format Section. Basically the new section would cover other competitions in which A-League clubs participate. So in addition to the NYL and ACL subsections it would include new subsections covering the W-League and FFA Cup. I would not include a NPL sub-section as there is no direct overlap. I created something similar on New Zealand Football Championship. Any feedback? Cheers -- TinTin ( talk) 23:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
SHould we have the clubs at the very start of the main body? It's a football competition and the clubs who partake in it is a pretty important part of what the competition is. Macktheknifeau ( talk) 11:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC) --aggree with above -- TinTin ( talk) 01:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Change Youth League sub-section to Youth Teams sub section with further reading links to both the NPL and NYL. It would also have a paragraph describing the A-League teams with associated teams in the state leagues. This is becoming increasingly common, I think it maybe even mandatory for the NPL state-leagues to allow A-League youth teams in the relevant NPL division now? I think this is the best way to cover both topics, as they directly overlap.-- TinTin ( talk) 01:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Why on earth have we gone all FOX Sports on wikipedia with stupid icon boxes? Why cant we just have boxes with just 2 colours or just have the icons that we have been using for the last 8 or so years? -- 115.166.22.2 ( talk) 08:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
does this recent Category link kk:Футболдан Аустралия чемпионаты to the Kazakh Wiki have a place here ? Matilda Maniac ( talk) 23:14, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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203.13.3.90 ( talk) 03:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER CHANGE ALL WORDS TO FOOTBALL!!!
An ill-mannered editor reverted my attempt to remove this item from the Infobox for this league, asking me to bring the issue here. In my view, having no promotion/relegation means there is effectively no pyramid. It does not have the same meaning as it does for leagues where there is promotion/relegation. We should not use confusing fields in the Infobox. HiLo48 ( talk) 02:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I have posted a link to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football in the hopes of gaining some extra insight ... CJ [a Kiwi] in Oz 23:59, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The FFA refer to them as Hyundai A-League clubs and Member Federation clubs ( [1]). With that, I agree with J man708 that tiers is not only for pro/rel. It is to know at what level the league is. Obviously the fully-professional A-League is a level above the semi-professional NPL - it is the top level of soccer a player can play at club level in Australia. Also a point to consider is that A-League clubs play their reserves in the NPL competitions. I think the "level" should stay, preferably with an explanatory note stating that there currently isn't pro/rel. -- SuperJew ( talk) 07:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm going to surrender on this one. The answer seems to be that we include the pyramid number because everybody else does it, and it's what we've always done. It's an answer that doesn't satisfy in the slightest, but I concede there is little chance of change in the short term. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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its football change all to football in aus foxsports labels it as football not soccer jus because the malaka media cant get the words right they too scared to call it football
CHANGE ALL SOCCER TO FOOTBALL NOW 203.13.3.94 ( talk) 23:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Clearly there is some dissatisfaction with the way Wikipedia deals with the name of the sport. I have commenced discussion at Naming_conventions (Football in Australia) and I invite contributions. -- Pete ( talk) 06:59, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
It is assosiation football commonly called football before the fa was set up soccer was a similar but the matches you tried to get a ball it to the "goal" games were brutal and went on for days in some cases there was deaths the fa was set up to stop this and invent an official store FIFAREF100 ( talk) 08:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to raise the point that this sentence is accurate except for the reference to Major League Soccer. Many American sports leagues contains one or more franchise elements. Major League Soccer, however, is a single-entity institution. All players are MLS employees. Owners are MLS shareholders with an exclusive license to manage a particular team, and make a number of operational decisions, but are not true owners of a club. Owners cannot unilaterally make player hiring decisions on their own for their team. Player contracts are with MLS and must be approved by MLS, even if the ownership group has taken recruitment steps. They do not own the intellectual property of the team they manage - MLS does. THe lack of control over one's own badge precludes a team from being considered a club, is my understanding. I suggest Major League Soccer be removed from the referenced sentence.
Dream-king ( talk) 03:55, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
See (1) above 2013.
Which is more important? Premier or Champion? Which one is mostly used to denote the winner of the season?
The distinction (between Premier and Champion) is described well in the intro, but can it be included in the League championships section or (especially in) the table headings, too?
… for dummies (like me) who don’t know much about soccer.
MBG02 ( talk) 10:25, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Why are people editing this and changing things to incorrect info FIFAREF100 ( talk) 08:29, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
This is not a general article about Australian sports. It is an article about a specific sport that is called football. There is zero chance for confusion with any other sport such as various codes of rugby, table-tennis, or anything else. The sport's various groups and bodies don't call it soccer, so why should we? I'll accept that in a wider context there may be confusion, especially from people who pick the ball up with their hands, but nobody reading this article is going to think that the word "football" refers to anything else but football.
And, speaking of the wider world, look at the heading fields of this sports site: Sections on "Rugby League AFL Cricket Football Racing More" Also here, here, here, here, here, here, and here (headings of "Sport, Cycling, Football"). If the ABC calls it Football, why the hell is Wikipedia calling it anything else? We are required to use reliable sources, surely? Not just make stuff up? -- Pete ( talk) 20:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
The article goes on endlessly about all sorts of stuff which may be interesting to some, but probably not that many. If you want to know who won the thing, you are lost. I a sure it is hidden somewhere - and numerous people will point out that I am the idiot here. 09:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC) Oalexander ( talk) 09:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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Jamie Maclaren is now Leading Goalscorer in the league 143. Get it changed from Berisha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.12.11.151 ( talk) 00:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
The ladder graphic explaining which team is which is inaccurate and contrary to the explanation text. Looking at the ladder you would think in the semis number 1 plays the winner of 3 vs 6, and 2 plays the winner of 4 vs 5. Yes, the text in the graphic gets it correct, but what's the point of a graphic if only the text is correct?
I recommend the following instead
Elimination Finals | Semi Finals | Grand Final |
---|---|---|
3 vs 6 | 1 vs Lowest Rank winner of Elimination Finals | Winners of Semi Finals |
4 vs 5 | 2 vs Highest Rank winner of Elimination Finals |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.119.19.20 ( talk) 21:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Why are there teams listed on the Championships/premierships tables that haven't won anything? It seems pointless. A team should only be listed here if they have won something. Does anyone mind if they are removed? Anderch ( talk) 02:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I noticed at some point the information about current champions and most championships was removed from the infobox. I couldn't find anything on the talk page about it, so I have restored this content. -- Chuq (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
The text above is in the Origins section, but there is no elaboration on it, and it doesn't seem to crack a mention in any of the sources. What was the deal? What was wrong with it? Can we source it? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:16, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently reads:
The following do not fill a Visa position: 1Those players who were born and started their professional career abroad but have since gained Australian Residency (and New Zealand Residency, in the case of Wellington Phoenix); 2Australian residents (and New Zealand residents, in the case of Wellington Phoenix) who have chosen to represent another national team;
Is there a reliable source that says that an Australian resident (rather than a citizen) qualifies as a local? Hack ( talk) 13:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would like to move the existing Asian Champions League and National Youth League sub-sections into a new section to be called Related competitions as they aren't DIRECTLY part of the A-League so I don't think should be in the Format Section. Basically the new section would cover other competitions in which A-League clubs participate. So in addition to the NYL and ACL subsections it would include new subsections covering the W-League and FFA Cup. I would not include a NPL sub-section as there is no direct overlap. I created something similar on New Zealand Football Championship. Any feedback? Cheers -- TinTin ( talk) 23:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
SHould we have the clubs at the very start of the main body? It's a football competition and the clubs who partake in it is a pretty important part of what the competition is. Macktheknifeau ( talk) 11:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC) --aggree with above -- TinTin ( talk) 01:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Change Youth League sub-section to Youth Teams sub section with further reading links to both the NPL and NYL. It would also have a paragraph describing the A-League teams with associated teams in the state leagues. This is becoming increasingly common, I think it maybe even mandatory for the NPL state-leagues to allow A-League youth teams in the relevant NPL division now? I think this is the best way to cover both topics, as they directly overlap.-- TinTin ( talk) 01:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Why on earth have we gone all FOX Sports on wikipedia with stupid icon boxes? Why cant we just have boxes with just 2 colours or just have the icons that we have been using for the last 8 or so years? -- 115.166.22.2 ( talk) 08:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
does this recent Category link kk:Футболдан Аустралия чемпионаты to the Kazakh Wiki have a place here ? Matilda Maniac ( talk) 23:14, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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203.13.3.90 ( talk) 03:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER CHANGE ALL WORDS TO FOOTBALL!!!
An ill-mannered editor reverted my attempt to remove this item from the Infobox for this league, asking me to bring the issue here. In my view, having no promotion/relegation means there is effectively no pyramid. It does not have the same meaning as it does for leagues where there is promotion/relegation. We should not use confusing fields in the Infobox. HiLo48 ( talk) 02:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I have posted a link to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football in the hopes of gaining some extra insight ... CJ [a Kiwi] in Oz 23:59, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The FFA refer to them as Hyundai A-League clubs and Member Federation clubs ( [1]). With that, I agree with J man708 that tiers is not only for pro/rel. It is to know at what level the league is. Obviously the fully-professional A-League is a level above the semi-professional NPL - it is the top level of soccer a player can play at club level in Australia. Also a point to consider is that A-League clubs play their reserves in the NPL competitions. I think the "level" should stay, preferably with an explanatory note stating that there currently isn't pro/rel. -- SuperJew ( talk) 07:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm going to surrender on this one. The answer seems to be that we include the pyramid number because everybody else does it, and it's what we've always done. It's an answer that doesn't satisfy in the slightest, but I concede there is little chance of change in the short term. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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its football change all to football in aus foxsports labels it as football not soccer jus because the malaka media cant get the words right they too scared to call it football
CHANGE ALL SOCCER TO FOOTBALL NOW 203.13.3.94 ( talk) 23:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Clearly there is some dissatisfaction with the way Wikipedia deals with the name of the sport. I have commenced discussion at Naming_conventions (Football in Australia) and I invite contributions. -- Pete ( talk) 06:59, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
It is assosiation football commonly called football before the fa was set up soccer was a similar but the matches you tried to get a ball it to the "goal" games were brutal and went on for days in some cases there was deaths the fa was set up to stop this and invent an official store FIFAREF100 ( talk) 08:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to raise the point that this sentence is accurate except for the reference to Major League Soccer. Many American sports leagues contains one or more franchise elements. Major League Soccer, however, is a single-entity institution. All players are MLS employees. Owners are MLS shareholders with an exclusive license to manage a particular team, and make a number of operational decisions, but are not true owners of a club. Owners cannot unilaterally make player hiring decisions on their own for their team. Player contracts are with MLS and must be approved by MLS, even if the ownership group has taken recruitment steps. They do not own the intellectual property of the team they manage - MLS does. THe lack of control over one's own badge precludes a team from being considered a club, is my understanding. I suggest Major League Soccer be removed from the referenced sentence.
Dream-king ( talk) 03:55, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
See (1) above 2013.
Which is more important? Premier or Champion? Which one is mostly used to denote the winner of the season?
The distinction (between Premier and Champion) is described well in the intro, but can it be included in the League championships section or (especially in) the table headings, too?
… for dummies (like me) who don’t know much about soccer.
MBG02 ( talk) 10:25, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Why are people editing this and changing things to incorrect info FIFAREF100 ( talk) 08:29, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
This is not a general article about Australian sports. It is an article about a specific sport that is called football. There is zero chance for confusion with any other sport such as various codes of rugby, table-tennis, or anything else. The sport's various groups and bodies don't call it soccer, so why should we? I'll accept that in a wider context there may be confusion, especially from people who pick the ball up with their hands, but nobody reading this article is going to think that the word "football" refers to anything else but football.
And, speaking of the wider world, look at the heading fields of this sports site: Sections on "Rugby League AFL Cricket Football Racing More" Also here, here, here, here, here, here, and here (headings of "Sport, Cycling, Football"). If the ABC calls it Football, why the hell is Wikipedia calling it anything else? We are required to use reliable sources, surely? Not just make stuff up? -- Pete ( talk) 20:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
The article goes on endlessly about all sorts of stuff which may be interesting to some, but probably not that many. If you want to know who won the thing, you are lost. I a sure it is hidden somewhere - and numerous people will point out that I am the idiot here. 09:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC) Oalexander ( talk) 09:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC)