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See Talk:Beekman Tower#Merge suggestion for a proposal to merge this article. DVD 21:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please uplaod a new image of the tower? Jerchel ( talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
This article was at "8 Spruce Street" until an editor moved it in early December 2010 to "Beekman Tower (New York City)" without prior discussion. I objected at the time, but didn't move it back. Now, pursuant to this comment on WikiProject NYC, I've moved it back, taking the "R" step of the WP:BRD cycle ("Bold, Revert, Discuss"). The next step is "D", so if anyone objects to the move back, I suggest that a request move conversation be opened.
My own take is that "Beekman Tower" is a name no longer used by the bulding's owners, "New York by Frank Gehry" seems much too promotional, and is likely to be have a short life in the real world, but the bulding will always be "8 Spruce Street", at least until the city renamesor renumbers the street. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 04:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus to move to 8 Spruce Street. Carcharoth ( talk) 03:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Finished moving it, but some editing of the article is still needed. Carcharoth ( talk) 03:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Beekman Tower (New York) → 8 Spruce Street — "Beekman Tower" was the name used for this building while under construction, but it is no longer in use. The developers call it "New York by Gehry", which seems much too promotional (and a nonce name) to use as an article title. The article was at "8 Spruce Street" until moved in early December by User:Jerchel. I moved it back recently (see the discussion above), with the suggestion that if anyone objected, a Request Move should be opened. Today, User:Jerchel moved it back again to "Beekman Tower" without prior discussion. I would like this issue to be settled by a consensus discussion here. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 19:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
There are many sources which call it "Beekman Tower" too
So there's no obvious preference. However the use of "8 Spruce" does seem to be growing. It may take another year or two for one name to become the predominant choice. Will Beback talk 22:37, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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talk) 12:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)I feel this should be on the wiki. Could it be a late April Fool's prank tho? http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=105610_0_24_0_M —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.41.9 ( talk) 23:35, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
An editor mae some changes to the article, breaking up the "Details" section into small subsections, and aing a "Linkrot" template to the references section. I have deleted the one bad link in the refs, and I converted the subsections into non-hierarchical ones, because it's unlikely that they're going to be expanded any time soon (it's all basic information), so there's no real need for them to be listed in the TOC. The editor, without explanation restored back to an old version with the linkrotted ref that he tagged about, and, of course, the hierarchical subsections.
Whether the subsections should be in the TOC hierarchy or not is a content dispute which should be discussed here, and I'm happy to do so, but there's absolutely no reason for there to be a linkrot template in the reference section when all the links now work, an there's no excuse for reverting back to an earlier version which includes the bad link. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
You need to read the link rot guidelines, both those linked from the box, and linked from those guidelines to see both the first level deficiencies, and the long-term archive-needed deficiencies. Read them, follow them, and I won't add the box back. The box and guidelines need more work, but it will be awhile until I can devote the effort to build consensus there. There should also be a tool, that archives critical citations, while building the Wiki markup. Lentower ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
This is not a content dispute. It's a dispute, about how to use formatting to best present the information that is already there. (I note that I did expand the third 'header' to better describe it's content, which appears to have been accepted.)
The sub-sections headers, make the article more readable, by letting the reader understand the building quicker. And expands the ToC into an outline of the article's main points. Helping the reader is what WP is about. Lentower ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 05:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
See Talk:Beekman Tower#Merge suggestion for a proposal to merge this article. DVD 21:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please uplaod a new image of the tower? Jerchel ( talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
This article was at "8 Spruce Street" until an editor moved it in early December 2010 to "Beekman Tower (New York City)" without prior discussion. I objected at the time, but didn't move it back. Now, pursuant to this comment on WikiProject NYC, I've moved it back, taking the "R" step of the WP:BRD cycle ("Bold, Revert, Discuss"). The next step is "D", so if anyone objects to the move back, I suggest that a request move conversation be opened.
My own take is that "Beekman Tower" is a name no longer used by the bulding's owners, "New York by Frank Gehry" seems much too promotional, and is likely to be have a short life in the real world, but the bulding will always be "8 Spruce Street", at least until the city renamesor renumbers the street. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 04:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus to move to 8 Spruce Street. Carcharoth ( talk) 03:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Finished moving it, but some editing of the article is still needed. Carcharoth ( talk) 03:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Beekman Tower (New York) → 8 Spruce Street — "Beekman Tower" was the name used for this building while under construction, but it is no longer in use. The developers call it "New York by Gehry", which seems much too promotional (and a nonce name) to use as an article title. The article was at "8 Spruce Street" until moved in early December by User:Jerchel. I moved it back recently (see the discussion above), with the suggestion that if anyone objected, a Request Move should be opened. Today, User:Jerchel moved it back again to "Beekman Tower" without prior discussion. I would like this issue to be settled by a consensus discussion here. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 19:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
There are many sources which call it "Beekman Tower" too
So there's no obvious preference. However the use of "8 Spruce" does seem to be growing. It may take another year or two for one name to become the predominant choice. Will Beback talk 22:37, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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help) ("The Spruce Street project (formerly called Beekman Tower)..."). The browser title for that article is "8 Spruce Street by the Architect Frank Gehry."
postdlf (
talk) 12:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)I feel this should be on the wiki. Could it be a late April Fool's prank tho? http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=105610_0_24_0_M —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.41.9 ( talk) 23:35, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
An editor mae some changes to the article, breaking up the "Details" section into small subsections, and aing a "Linkrot" template to the references section. I have deleted the one bad link in the refs, and I converted the subsections into non-hierarchical ones, because it's unlikely that they're going to be expanded any time soon (it's all basic information), so there's no real need for them to be listed in the TOC. The editor, without explanation restored back to an old version with the linkrotted ref that he tagged about, and, of course, the hierarchical subsections.
Whether the subsections should be in the TOC hierarchy or not is a content dispute which should be discussed here, and I'm happy to do so, but there's absolutely no reason for there to be a linkrot template in the reference section when all the links now work, an there's no excuse for reverting back to an earlier version which includes the bad link. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
You need to read the link rot guidelines, both those linked from the box, and linked from those guidelines to see both the first level deficiencies, and the long-term archive-needed deficiencies. Read them, follow them, and I won't add the box back. The box and guidelines need more work, but it will be awhile until I can devote the effort to build consensus there. There should also be a tool, that archives critical citations, while building the Wiki markup. Lentower ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
This is not a content dispute. It's a dispute, about how to use formatting to best present the information that is already there. (I note that I did expand the third 'header' to better describe it's content, which appears to have been accepted.)
The sub-sections headers, make the article more readable, by letting the reader understand the building quicker. And expands the ToC into an outline of the article's main points. Helping the reader is what WP is about. Lentower ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2024 and 30 April 2024. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Bbowiee (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Bbowiee ( talk) 16:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)