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the tracklisting for the single is fake, ive deleted it, but its not real. The promo for this single hastn even been sent out to radiostations and the date of release isnt even finalized, so there is no tracklisting for the single yet. The song Candyland was added as a bonus track on the CD to start commotion on other Gwen Stefani forums as many people want that song and it has yet to be released.
Leesamio 21:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The track listing for "4 in the Morning" is real because it says it on a website. Search "4 in the Morning" on google and you will find it there. Viven31 21:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Is that the real album cover?-- Baker1000 10:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
What is is...8 May or May 22....its very confusing.Someone please come up with a confirmed date and post the referecne or source here...in the talk page. User: luxurious.gaurav
howsw bout the chart positions of this single?
Can someone confirm that it really is #2 in Russia? That just seems so random, seeing that none of Gwen's other singles have been too successful in Russia and it would be odd that it would reach #2 so fast. Its not an individual radio station site is it? NRS11 05:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes there is, and that source is completely in Russian, which few people on English wikipedia are probably able to read. Can someone who does understand it please confirm? NRS11 20:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
This is the last comment I'm going to make about this subject. We don't need to fight about it or anything. My concern is that the site would need to say something like "This is the official singles chart of Russia" on it to prove its legitimacy. However how can we check that something like that is written on the website when no one can read Russian? NRS11 03:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
How can we be that absolutely, positively sure of anything? Try using google translate if it bothers you. Also note that this song is different from the usual Gwen Stefani style, I don't normally like Gwen either but I love this song. 159.134.245.192 02:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned about her performance on American Idol....she peformed the song there....why was it deleted? Luxurious.gaurav
The video has'nt climbed the total request live chart since may 9??? User:Luxurious.gaurav
Why is the chart position of the song in canada deleted? User:Luxurious.gaurav
I hope i was able to provide reliable sources for Pop 100 and Dance Chart.I hav'nt added the hot 100 chart reference but the sourse seems to be reliable enough as the song has not entered top 50.So its position can't be sourced.A friend of mine gets the billboard magazine and he has confirmed that the song debuted at number 75. User:Luxurious.gaurav
Why was the previous table delted which talked about the songs position in U.S.It mentioned verything about Hot 100,Pop100 and Club Play....and it was sourced well too...
Why does the single cover keeps on changing....is this one the real one.. User:luxurious.gaurav How come the table appeared back again? User: luxurious.gaurav
Because someone keeps editing it ;). The sinle cover which is up right now is the official cover.-- Baker1000 14:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
The song is not yet released.Then how can it be called a Current Single? User:Luxurious.gaurav
By wiki rules, I'm curious if the community interested in publish link to Gwen's music video:
-- Watchpasha 11:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Why does somebody keeps deleting her position in the Romanian Top 100?That`s the official chart,she has a good position,so I really don`t know...Help? thesweetlamb
Okay, as an outsider who has worked with WP:CHARTS a bit, I'll try to run this down. The chart should have a maximum of eighteen items. Up to ten can be from the country of origin (that is, the country the artist comes from) AND up to ten can be from other countries. So if the artist was from the UK, and there were five UK charts used, you can include ten additional foreign charts, for a total of 15 entries. Or if ten UK charts were used (remember, no component charts allowed! This is usually only a problem for U.S. songs), you could add up to eight foreign charts, for the maximum 18 entries. As for the foreign charts, it is generally the best practice to include those charts from the largest markets, and I'd recommend the United World Chart be included as one of these ten entries, because it reflects the general worldwide standing of a particular song/album. So, based on what you have currently, I'd recommend this:
Chart (2007) [1] [2] |
Peak position |
---|---|
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 | 54 |
U.S. Billboard Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks | 18 |
U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play | 2 |
U.S. Billboard Pop 100 | 30 |
U.S. Billboard Top 40 Mainstream | 16 |
Australian ARIA Singles Chart | 9 |
Austrian Singles Chart | 20 |
Canadian Hot 100 (Billboard) | 17 [3] |
Dutch Top 40 | 14 |
German Singles Chart | 18 |
Irish Singles Chart | 5 |
New Zealand RIANZ Singles Chart | 5 |
Swedish Singles Chart | 30 |
UK Singles Chart | 22 |
United World Chart | 9 |
As for a current list of major markets to choose from, I will recommend the list at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Top twenty largest music markets in the world. The above chart represents the current max number of foreign entries allowed; if you want to add another entry, you'll have to remove one first. The only two that aren't on the Top 20 markets are Ireland and New Zealand...because these are typically identified as part of the six major English-speaking countries (U.S., UK, Canada and Australia being the others), it might be difficult to justify removing them given that this is the English Wikipedia. But that is ultimately up to the local editors to debate. Any questions? -- Huntster T • @ • C 02:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
The Romanian Chart is mentioned here: Lovestoned, The Way I Are, Big Girls Don't Cry (Fergie song), Upgrade U, Summer Love, Wait a Minute (Pussycat Dolls song), I Don't Need a Man, etc ( this 17Drew guy must have missed them...unlike this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=What_Goes_Around...Comes_Around&diff=151252243&oldid=150567359 ) so why not mention it here? SouthParkUltimateFan 03:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
He just started to remove the Romanian Chart from the articles i mentioned lol. Glad I could help :) SouthParkUltimateFan 03:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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think someone should mention that the song after 4 in the morning is 'Now That You Got It', my friend said she heard it on the UK Radio, and some of my american friends assure me this will be her new single because she collaborated with Damian Marley.
Please provide a reliable source. If any known and reliable site says so, then we will add it. Thank You! Luxurious.gaurav 13:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I've found on the internet the following pic [ [1]].It's that maybe the asian or somethin cover or what? thesweetlamb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.77.9.6 ( talk • contribs) 19:49, August 3, 2007 (UTC)
hrm.. K. got told to come here. Basically this is not really an R&B song..I dont even see any sources for it being R&B. I am changing it to just pop. This doesnt even sound R&B. Ok so err. thanks. Glassedphase ( talk) 21:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC) You need to wait for consensus on such things, no original research etc. — Realist 2 21:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean? Glassedphase ( talk) 21:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no source calling this R&B. And Ive checked the history aswell and its only recently been called R&B by an IP user with no source. Read the article aswell. This is Pop. Dont say I need a source to call this a pop song! :) Glassedphase ( talk) 16:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I am changing this back to Pop the way it was. No sources whatsoever calling it R&B Glassedphase ( talk) 18:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
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the tracklisting for the single is fake, ive deleted it, but its not real. The promo for this single hastn even been sent out to radiostations and the date of release isnt even finalized, so there is no tracklisting for the single yet. The song Candyland was added as a bonus track on the CD to start commotion on other Gwen Stefani forums as many people want that song and it has yet to be released.
Leesamio 21:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The track listing for "4 in the Morning" is real because it says it on a website. Search "4 in the Morning" on google and you will find it there. Viven31 21:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Is that the real album cover?-- Baker1000 10:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
What is is...8 May or May 22....its very confusing.Someone please come up with a confirmed date and post the referecne or source here...in the talk page. User: luxurious.gaurav
howsw bout the chart positions of this single?
Can someone confirm that it really is #2 in Russia? That just seems so random, seeing that none of Gwen's other singles have been too successful in Russia and it would be odd that it would reach #2 so fast. Its not an individual radio station site is it? NRS11 05:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes there is, and that source is completely in Russian, which few people on English wikipedia are probably able to read. Can someone who does understand it please confirm? NRS11 20:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
This is the last comment I'm going to make about this subject. We don't need to fight about it or anything. My concern is that the site would need to say something like "This is the official singles chart of Russia" on it to prove its legitimacy. However how can we check that something like that is written on the website when no one can read Russian? NRS11 03:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
How can we be that absolutely, positively sure of anything? Try using google translate if it bothers you. Also note that this song is different from the usual Gwen Stefani style, I don't normally like Gwen either but I love this song. 159.134.245.192 02:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned about her performance on American Idol....she peformed the song there....why was it deleted? Luxurious.gaurav
The video has'nt climbed the total request live chart since may 9??? User:Luxurious.gaurav
Why is the chart position of the song in canada deleted? User:Luxurious.gaurav
I hope i was able to provide reliable sources for Pop 100 and Dance Chart.I hav'nt added the hot 100 chart reference but the sourse seems to be reliable enough as the song has not entered top 50.So its position can't be sourced.A friend of mine gets the billboard magazine and he has confirmed that the song debuted at number 75. User:Luxurious.gaurav
Why was the previous table delted which talked about the songs position in U.S.It mentioned verything about Hot 100,Pop100 and Club Play....and it was sourced well too...
Why does the single cover keeps on changing....is this one the real one.. User:luxurious.gaurav How come the table appeared back again? User: luxurious.gaurav
Because someone keeps editing it ;). The sinle cover which is up right now is the official cover.-- Baker1000 14:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
The song is not yet released.Then how can it be called a Current Single? User:Luxurious.gaurav
By wiki rules, I'm curious if the community interested in publish link to Gwen's music video:
-- Watchpasha 11:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Why does somebody keeps deleting her position in the Romanian Top 100?That`s the official chart,she has a good position,so I really don`t know...Help? thesweetlamb
Okay, as an outsider who has worked with WP:CHARTS a bit, I'll try to run this down. The chart should have a maximum of eighteen items. Up to ten can be from the country of origin (that is, the country the artist comes from) AND up to ten can be from other countries. So if the artist was from the UK, and there were five UK charts used, you can include ten additional foreign charts, for a total of 15 entries. Or if ten UK charts were used (remember, no component charts allowed! This is usually only a problem for U.S. songs), you could add up to eight foreign charts, for the maximum 18 entries. As for the foreign charts, it is generally the best practice to include those charts from the largest markets, and I'd recommend the United World Chart be included as one of these ten entries, because it reflects the general worldwide standing of a particular song/album. So, based on what you have currently, I'd recommend this:
Chart (2007) [1] [2] |
Peak position |
---|---|
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 | 54 |
U.S. Billboard Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks | 18 |
U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play | 2 |
U.S. Billboard Pop 100 | 30 |
U.S. Billboard Top 40 Mainstream | 16 |
Australian ARIA Singles Chart | 9 |
Austrian Singles Chart | 20 |
Canadian Hot 100 (Billboard) | 17 [3] |
Dutch Top 40 | 14 |
German Singles Chart | 18 |
Irish Singles Chart | 5 |
New Zealand RIANZ Singles Chart | 5 |
Swedish Singles Chart | 30 |
UK Singles Chart | 22 |
United World Chart | 9 |
As for a current list of major markets to choose from, I will recommend the list at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Top twenty largest music markets in the world. The above chart represents the current max number of foreign entries allowed; if you want to add another entry, you'll have to remove one first. The only two that aren't on the Top 20 markets are Ireland and New Zealand...because these are typically identified as part of the six major English-speaking countries (U.S., UK, Canada and Australia being the others), it might be difficult to justify removing them given that this is the English Wikipedia. But that is ultimately up to the local editors to debate. Any questions? -- Huntster T • @ • C 02:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
The Romanian Chart is mentioned here: Lovestoned, The Way I Are, Big Girls Don't Cry (Fergie song), Upgrade U, Summer Love, Wait a Minute (Pussycat Dolls song), I Don't Need a Man, etc ( this 17Drew guy must have missed them...unlike this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=What_Goes_Around...Comes_Around&diff=151252243&oldid=150567359 ) so why not mention it here? SouthParkUltimateFan 03:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
He just started to remove the Romanian Chart from the articles i mentioned lol. Glad I could help :) SouthParkUltimateFan 03:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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think someone should mention that the song after 4 in the morning is 'Now That You Got It', my friend said she heard it on the UK Radio, and some of my american friends assure me this will be her new single because she collaborated with Damian Marley.
Please provide a reliable source. If any known and reliable site says so, then we will add it. Thank You! Luxurious.gaurav 13:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I've found on the internet the following pic [ [1]].It's that maybe the asian or somethin cover or what? thesweetlamb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.77.9.6 ( talk • contribs) 19:49, August 3, 2007 (UTC)
hrm.. K. got told to come here. Basically this is not really an R&B song..I dont even see any sources for it being R&B. I am changing it to just pop. This doesnt even sound R&B. Ok so err. thanks. Glassedphase ( talk) 21:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC) You need to wait for consensus on such things, no original research etc. — Realist 2 21:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean? Glassedphase ( talk) 21:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no source calling this R&B. And Ive checked the history aswell and its only recently been called R&B by an IP user with no source. Read the article aswell. This is Pop. Dont say I need a source to call this a pop song! :) Glassedphase ( talk) 16:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I am changing this back to Pop the way it was. No sources whatsoever calling it R&B Glassedphase ( talk) 18:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
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