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The page says that it will eventually fall into one of the gas giants. Is enough known about its orbit to guess when this might happen and which gas giant might consume it? Inquiring minds want to know. KellyCoinGuy
Did a major reorginization of the article, with the new layout modeled on the article for 90482 Orcus. I'm intending to get this article fixed up, so it can be used as an example for repairing the current state of the centaur articles. shaggy 12:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
The sections should NOT be merged into one, as the two articles are about in fact two different astronomical bodies. Instead, why not merge this one (hypothetical moon) into a Saturn article, if it absolutely must be merged with something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.52.162.59 ( talk • contribs) 12 April 2010
Is the astrology section sourced in the Guinness Book? If not, it needs to go completely. Captainktainer * Talk 09:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The Astrology section should either be moved to Planets_in_astrology or removed completely. Other comparable scientific articles e.g. Pluto don't have an astrology section. -- Mojoh81 10:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I checked the article's statement It has been calculated that in 1664 BC Chiron approached Saturn to within approximately 16 million kilometres... with SOLEX. The other was from Kowal There is no agreement about any of the approaches between the two sources. It's not so much that SOLEX 9.1 has 30 yr more recent orbital elements. The researchers had considered perturbations of the five outer planets only. Simulations by SOLEX show that removing just Venus or Mercury completely changes the list of close approach years. So I removed the statement. Saros136 ( talk) 18:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Using SOLEX again, I checked to see what reliable close approach predictions can be made. SOLEX has a clone feature, for asteroids. It generates orbital elements for a number of fictitious asteroids, very similar to the first. How similar depends on the estimated uncertainty in the real elements. The only close Saturn-Chiron close passes all the clones made or will make are in May 720, at just under 30 Gm, October 3544, at 137 Gm, and January or February 4606-103 Gm. The predictions hold up if I remove the big three main belt asteroids (Ceres, Pallas, and Vesta) or Pluto(or all four), or if I add all of the biggest ones. Saros136 ( talk) 13:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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It is misleading to show an image of Chiron that suggests it is a dwarf planet without explaining in the text that it is near the lower limit to qualify as such. Even the article on larger 10199 Chariklo does not mislead people so much. -- Kheider ( talk) 22:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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IP user 70.51.200.162 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) recently added a picture request to this page, with comment "a real photo, not just an artist's impression". I reverted, saying that it would only happen when we send a probe to Chiron, to which IP70 replied that we can point a telescope there. Well, that looks quite unrealistic too: the closest Chiron ever comes to Earth is about 8 AU, i.e. roughly the orbit of Saturn. Now let's look at pictures of Saturn snapped by Hubble. That's the best quality we get from a telescope, with a planet of 60,000 km radius. Comparatively, Chiron has a radius of 100 km, 600 times smaller. If we pointed Hubble to Chiron, we could possibly get a picture of a few pixels wide, if albedo permits (Chiron is pretty dark). Not a chance to have anything presentable as an article illustration. Thus I would recommend removing this unrealistic picture request, and perhaps discussing it again after the James Webb telescope is operational, and of course if and when a probe to Chiron is in the works. — JFG talk 11:52, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
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The date given is the discovery plate, not the discovery date. The actual discovery, in consciousness, was Nov. 1, 1977. This is an important distinction. There's a similar situation with almost all planets, where the plates must be reviewed for a while before the discovery is known. The earliest precovery plate is 1895. We don't list that, however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dioxinfreak ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
2060 Chiron was recently confirmed to have rings thanks to a stellar occultation, I would add this myself but I am not confident, So I'll leave it to more experienced editors P1X3LZIMMY ( talk) 00:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The page says that it will eventually fall into one of the gas giants. Is enough known about its orbit to guess when this might happen and which gas giant might consume it? Inquiring minds want to know. KellyCoinGuy
Did a major reorginization of the article, with the new layout modeled on the article for 90482 Orcus. I'm intending to get this article fixed up, so it can be used as an example for repairing the current state of the centaur articles. shaggy 12:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
The sections should NOT be merged into one, as the two articles are about in fact two different astronomical bodies. Instead, why not merge this one (hypothetical moon) into a Saturn article, if it absolutely must be merged with something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.52.162.59 ( talk • contribs) 12 April 2010
Is the astrology section sourced in the Guinness Book? If not, it needs to go completely. Captainktainer * Talk 09:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The Astrology section should either be moved to Planets_in_astrology or removed completely. Other comparable scientific articles e.g. Pluto don't have an astrology section. -- Mojoh81 10:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I checked the article's statement It has been calculated that in 1664 BC Chiron approached Saturn to within approximately 16 million kilometres... with SOLEX. The other was from Kowal There is no agreement about any of the approaches between the two sources. It's not so much that SOLEX 9.1 has 30 yr more recent orbital elements. The researchers had considered perturbations of the five outer planets only. Simulations by SOLEX show that removing just Venus or Mercury completely changes the list of close approach years. So I removed the statement. Saros136 ( talk) 18:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Using SOLEX again, I checked to see what reliable close approach predictions can be made. SOLEX has a clone feature, for asteroids. It generates orbital elements for a number of fictitious asteroids, very similar to the first. How similar depends on the estimated uncertainty in the real elements. The only close Saturn-Chiron close passes all the clones made or will make are in May 720, at just under 30 Gm, October 3544, at 137 Gm, and January or February 4606-103 Gm. The predictions hold up if I remove the big three main belt asteroids (Ceres, Pallas, and Vesta) or Pluto(or all four), or if I add all of the biggest ones. Saros136 ( talk) 13:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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It is misleading to show an image of Chiron that suggests it is a dwarf planet without explaining in the text that it is near the lower limit to qualify as such. Even the article on larger 10199 Chariklo does not mislead people so much. -- Kheider ( talk) 22:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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The date given is the discovery plate, not the discovery date. The actual discovery, in consciousness, was Nov. 1, 1977. This is an important distinction. There's a similar situation with almost all planets, where the plates must be reviewed for a while before the discovery is known. The earliest precovery plate is 1895. We don't list that, however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dioxinfreak ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
2060 Chiron was recently confirmed to have rings thanks to a stellar occultation, I would add this myself but I am not confident, So I'll leave it to more experienced editors P1X3LZIMMY ( talk) 00:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)