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@
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Alexei Navalny being barred from standing in 2024 is entirely relevant, as he is the most prominent
opposition figure in the country, and has been stopped from standing in presidential elections by what is widely considered to be a politically motivated sentence. How is that not relevant? The mention of this is to illustrate that many people, including Russians, believe that the 2024 election will not be free or fair. For you to disallow any mention of this on the article confirms you yourself do not want editing on the article itself to be free or fair. What I find most bizarre of all is that you say "what has he got to do with it", and yet you yourself have added opinion polls to the article which explicitly mention, and record statistics for, the support for Navalny, which shows he has and is being discussed in reference to the election. Furthermore, I would make the following point: you cannot say he is "irrelevant" simply because he has been barred from the election due to a criminal conviction, as that is notable in itself with him being the main opposition leader. The very fact that he has been widely discussed as being a political prisoner and been barred from elections for political motivations is of note in itself in relation to this election, and so his "criminal" conviction actually makes him of more relevance to this article, rather than of less significance as you claim.
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@ LauraWilliamson: Perhaps in your country, he is the most famous opposition candidate, but in Russia he is no more known than the leaders of some opposition parties (Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Sobchak, Yavlinsky, Kasyanov, etc.). His electoral rating is 1-2%, and in the best case, he ranks 3rd (You can check the polls). This does not make him such a significant possible candidate to write about him in the article header. I added it to the " Disqualified candidates" section. In this section are mentioned persons who declared their intention to run, but lost this right. Mr Savva ( talk) 07:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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@ LauraWilliamson: I'm warning you before you get to the edit war stage- I've given you suggestions of where to go to get advise. Continually trying to force a change over and over again is not one of those options. Multiple people have been reverting you- I've checked the history. So, either ask for a WP:3O or open a WP:RFC but do not keep trying to force information in. If those reverting you won't respond on the talk page- get more eyes on the project- don't wage a war on your own on the article. I've now got this page on my watch list- if the edits and reversions continue, I'll report it myself. Please solve the problem, not engage in endless back and forth. Nightenbelle ( talk) 17:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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@ LauraWilliamson: I just want to clarify my edit. Calling Nalvany " Russia’s most prominent opposition leader" is dubious. This can only be true from a Western point of view due to the coverage he received in the western media following his hospitalisation. From a Russian point of view, he is not very popular. The statement that his conviction is "widely seen as politically motivated" is also Western POV and this statement needs an attribution. Mottezen ( talk) 22:38, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
More coming.
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Also examples of sources from outside of "Western" countries:
LauraWilliamson ( talk) 23:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Moscow Times (an example of a Russian source)... owned by a dutch billionaire. All the other sources you mentioned have a western connection.
Its not an incendiary comment, its just something that clearly makes you feel uncomfortable as you don't agree with his politicsNo actually I agree with opponents of Putin and what I heard of Nalvany's Smart Voting tactic. But that's not why I'm WP:HERE.
so what is only getting 2% in the polls?It's, like, really low. Mottezen ( talk) 23:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
His most potent rival, Aleksey Navalny, had been disqualified before the campaign began because of his prior criminal conviction, seen as politically motivated. The presidential election was described by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has having "a lack of genuine competition".- Freddom House's designation of his conviction as politically motivated
LauraWilliamson ( talk) 00:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I’m not even arguing for the inclusion of RT sources in the article, I am just showing you a text from a scholar explaining why Nalvany is not very relevant in Russia, and quotes of Zhirinovsky opposing Putin to enhance the discussion. The Russian Communist party and the LDRP are opposition parties who like Putin more than they like the EU/USA, and support Putin’s foreign policy agenda most of the time. This makes western media outlets call them “pro-Putin” although the reality is more nuanced. Why would pro-Putin politicians repeatedly run against him in presidential election?
All I’m asking is for the removal or proper attribution of subjective statements, that is all. Mottezen ( talk) 01:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Also, I don't have to take this. @ LauraWilliamson:, can you please strike through your comments calling my objections "stupid" and calling me "nationalist", "exclusionist", and to "stick to the Russian Wikipedia". This is really offensive. Mottezen ( talk) 05:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
The Russian Communist party and the LDRP are opposition parties- For Putin, of course, it is very convenient to choose his own "opposition" and not allow real opposition parties to participate in the elections, as well as to kill and imprison real opposition figures, such as Navalny. But here no one is obliged to participate in this boring circus.-- Nicoljaus ( talk) 07:37, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Navalny has long been astroturfed by the West and within Russia he has (at least up until his poisoning) been a fringe figure. PailSimon ( talk) 11:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
I think the whole section is pure WP:Original research as it's simple speculations that lack credible sources. The WP:NOTOR isn't relevant here either. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 16:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ustin Chashchikhin (Устин Чащихин) announced that he is going to participate in election, but he's not a politician (he's a writer) so I don't know if he should be mentioned in this article 2A00:1FA0:44AD:C7EF:B02A:AA0:D171:DE15 ( talk) 10:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
I propose merging Candidates in the 2024 Russian presidential election into 2024 Russian presidential election. I think the content in the former is mostly already contained in the latter already, and a merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in this article. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Mr Savva, Mr Savva, and Onel5969:
@ Mellk: you do not have a consensus to remove such large amounts of content. Some of that content has been there for weeks, it is incorrect to claim that your version that is only days old is the stable version. you should self revert. ObserverSpider ( talk) 14:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
March 8, 2024 by Russian Field: Vladimir Putin - 81.8%, Vladislav Davankov - 7.4%, Nikolai Kharitonov - 6.5%, Leonid Slutsky - 3.9%. Would someone please be so kind as to add this to the table. I can't do it. Source: https://t.me/rusbrief/207450 Sneuper ( talk) 16:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
How did this thing show up? Number 69 420 18:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Apparently he won the election with around 80 percent of the vote but there is no mention of him winning the election Csmith309 ( talk) 22:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
What to do with the tweets about spoiled ballots? https://twitter.com/khodorkovsky_en/status/1768940164447948983 https://twitter.com/ovdinfo_en/status/1769366629383643433
Sneuper ( talk) 10:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
I read an online article about (international + national) election observers during the elections, but I can not find that article again. Normally, election observers are present at polling stations, among others, and report their findings from all stages of the election procedures. Sneuper ( talk) 07:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Ahead of the presidential 'election' in Russia scheduled for 15-17 March 2024, the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance (International IDEA) wishes to underscore the importance of upholding the defining principles of independent international election observation. Unfortunately, Russia has once again decided not to invite long-established, impartial and professional international election observer organizations such as the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (OSCE/ODIHR) to observe the upcoming 'election'. Instead, Russian authorities misleadingly claim to have invited '500 to 1,000 international observers from more than 100 countries,' who in fact do not represent observer missions but a visitors programme. https://www.idea.int/news/call-representatives-democratic-nations-abstain-russias-election-visitors-programme https://tass.com/politics/1759269
Golos is not allowed to send observers. It was first labelled a "foreign agent" in 2013, having angered the authorities by publishing evidence of fraud in a 2011 parliamentary vote and a 2012 presidential election won by Putin. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/independent-vote-monitor-says-russian-elections-are-most-secret-ever-2024-03-15/ Golos denounces that the electronic voting system is an opaque system because only the final figures are visible on a screen, but access to the code is restricted to the Kremlin’s computer scientists. Moreover, via this method, it is easier to check whether a citizen has voted as the authorities wish. https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-15/russia-goes-to-the-polls-in-elections-tailored-to-guarantee-putin-power-until-2030.html
Russian Federation flouts international commitments once again with decision not to invite OSCE observers to presidential election On January 29, a representative from the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) announced that the organisation would not participate in international monitoring of the presidential election in Russia on March 15-17 citing the lack of an invitation from the Russian side. https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/russia/562065 https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/international_safety/1928501/
Independent observers also say the authorities have means at their disposal to manage the results, including vote-rigging, ballot-stuffing and using millions of state employees to back the status quo. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240311-five-things-russia-presidential-election-vladimir-putin-ukraine-protest-navalny-economy
Why are two parties colored in each of the rows? We only would do that if no party had more than 50%, meaning that two parties would advance to a runoff. However, none of the polls had Putin at or under 50%, indicating a first-round victory, in which case we would not color-in the second-place party. SecretName101 ( talk) 02:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
To include the person who won the 3rd place in the presidential election, they must have at least 5% of the vote to be included in the table. อย่ามาตบะ ( talk) 06:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
China, Iran, Belarus, Serbia, North Korea and Venezuela have so far congratulated Putin on his victory. This should be included in the reactions section of the article as currently it’s extremely one sided to negative reactions from western countries. This is the only way to be impartial and informative to the reader. 78.87.12.241 ( talk) 09:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add other foreing reactions: China, Iran ETC Freethinker1234 ( talk) 09:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Wouldn't it actually be federal subject? Region sounds overly broad to me. 115.188.117.112 ( talk) 09:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Should we create an article about Opinion polls for the 2024 Russian presidential election like the 2018 one and before, named "Opinion polling for the 2024 Russian presidential election"? RANDOM account 13:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
In the fifth paragraph of the International section under Reactions ("adding that that the vote was...") there's an extra that. It's been bugging me all day, somebody please fix it. 207.236.12.74 ( talk) 18:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Paragraph 4, Sentence 6, Clause 2 should be “An independent newspaper”, not “And independent newspaper” 97.127.27.92 ( talk) 21:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the fourth paragraph, correct this sentence
Opposition leader Alexei Navalny, viewed as the most viable Putin rival, was imprisoned on politically motivated charges in 2021, was imprisoned at a remote Arctic penal colony in 2021; his prison term was repeatedly extended, and he was deemed ineligible for the ballot.
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Opposition leader Alexei Navalny, viewed as the most viable Putin rival, was imprisoned at a remote Arctic penal colony in 2021 on politically motivated charges; the prison term was repeatedly extended, and he was deemed ineligible for the ballot.
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− | In November 2023, former member of the [[State Duma]], [[Boris | + | In November 2023, former member of the [[State Duma]], [[Boris Nadezhdin]], became the first person backed by a registered political party to announce his candidacy, running on an [[Anti-war protests in Russia (2022–present)|anti-war]] platform. |
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The section listing over a dozen countries sending congratulations to Putin does not conform to other election pages. Where typically many of the countries are listed separately with a brief statement and from which head of state or ambassador gave it. I would expect that to be added for China, India, Iran, etc. Look at the international reactions section on any other Wikipedia page and make this conform to those. Thank you. 108.39.196.77 ( talk) 07:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
In section Results, first table "by candidates" the turnout should be inserted.
In section Results, second table "by regions" it would be better to add 'amount of voters' and 'turnout' per region in added columns Sneuper ( talk) 09:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
I've made a subject-by-subject map of the election, so I think it would be nice to add it to the article. It's definitely one of the most depressing maps I've ever drawn, but here we are. Also, I would like to request some additions:
GlebRyabov ( talk) 09:59, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
According to its own poll by Extreme Scan (an international network of sociologists who focus on Russia, Ukraine and Belarus), Putin would have been elected in one voting round without fraud. The Amsterdam-based opposition video channel Dozhd presented the results of 'independent exit polls' on election night in which Putin was supported by at least 55 percent of voters and 37 percent had voted against all candidates by invalidating the ballot paper. Extreme Scan's survey also illustrated how effective the policy is in forcing Russians to vote for their jobs. On Friday, Putin is said to have received 60% of the votes, on Sunday 44%, barely more than the number of invalidated ballots. The reliability of this poll is difficult to assess. No fewer than 37% of voters refused to speak to the volunteers of this exit poll.
Sneuper ( talk) 12:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Section Allegations of irregularities:
The initial estimate put the number of fake votes at 31.6 million, but Moscow was later excluded from the analysis due to widespread online voting in the capital, a form of voting that makes it difficult to track turnout. Only the number 31,6 has to change in 22. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/19/at-least-22-million-fake-votes-cast-for-putin-in-presidential-election-en-news Sneuper ( talk) 14:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Abnormally high levels of electoral fraud recorded in 46 Russian regions. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/21/abnormally-high-levels-of-electoral-fraud-recorded-in-46-russian-regions-en-news
Eritrea [14]
Morocco [15]
Yemen (Supreme Political Council) [16]
Central African Republic, Zimbabwe [17]
Libya [18]
Laos [19]
Pakistan [20]
Cambodia [21]
Hamas [22]
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184.187.43.222 (
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After the outcome, the Kremlin can claim that nine out of ten Russians are also responsible for the war with the 'collective West'. Anyone who dares to make a comment is a priori a traitor to the will of the people. Every path to a peaceful political power formation can be closed by the election results. The administrative and economic elite can be purged. The culturicide in Ukraine has become a war of extermination of the entire nation, not only Putin's war. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/20/poetins-verkiezingszege-geeft-het-startschot-voor-zijn-nietsontziende-staatsterreur-a4193685 Sneuper ( talk) 09:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, massive attack on Ukrainian energy infrastructure. Putin waited for the elections with the vote count rigged in his favor. That outcome made the entire Russian population complicit in his war of extermination. Sneuper ( talk) 09:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, the Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov referred to Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine as a “war” in an interview with state-owned daily newspaper Argumenty i Fakty. https://aif.ru/politics/peskov-prokommentiroval-pravovoy-status-specoperacii Sneuper ( talk) 12:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, reported the independent Russian outlet Verstka that Russia’s Defense Ministry intended to send another 300,000 troops to the war in Ukraine amid plans to launch a siege on Kharkiv. This by mobilizing reservists and conscripts whose military service is ending into signing contracts. Also in Moscow, defense companies and state-funded organizations started issuing mobilization exemption certificates to employees, and military enlistment offices called back lawyers and psychologists who were involved in the fall 2022 mobilization as preparation “mobilization 2.0.” https://verstka.media/kak-vlasti-budut-prizyvat-rossiyan-v-voyska-dlia-nastupleniya-na-harkov Sneuper ( talk) 13:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
The voter map abroad is incorrect. So should be updated or removed. For example, Putin in Norway took 58.14% of the vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4645:B0B3:0:C5BA:FC22:9BDA:FB98 ( talk) 03:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
In Russia percentages of votes for candidates are counted from all recieved ballots, including spoiled ballots. Here, on the other hand, percentages are given out of valid ballots. This is not only a practice that is different from official one given by Russian Central Electoral Comission, but also omits an important movement of intentionally spoiling ballots. 93.175.28.10 ( talk) 15:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On 22 March, Russian independent news outlet Agentstvo reported that Kremlin-linked accounts launched a disinformation campaign on X aimed at convincing foreign audiences that the recent Russian presidential election was legitimate. Messages with similar content were posted on X between 18 March and 19 March in English, French, German, and Ukrainian. According to Agentstvo, the messages compared Russia’s “competitive and fair” elections to Ukraine’s decision to cancel the presidential election this year. Other accounts posited that Ukraine should not “cancel” everything to do with Russia. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/22/russian-disinformation-campaign-promoting-putins-legitimacy-reported-on-x-en-news Sneuper ( talk) 18:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
In the text are terms i.e. 'Anti-Putin activists' or 'exiled activists'. I prefer a more neutral description. These people are concerned with a just and fair election process with the best possible approximation of the correct numbers of voters per candidate. Sneuper ( talk) 08:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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European Platform for Democratic Elections listed the international election observers partly. EPDE was able so far to identify approx. 150 of the observers and “experts”. In the table EPDE presents selected names of citizens of European countries that appeared in Russian mass media. The full report will be published in the upcoming weeks.
According to the official data, 706 of the “observers” were officially accredited. The 224 participants of the World Youth Forum, held in Sochi from March 1-7,2024, were also invited to observe the elections as "experts." At least 34 of the “observers” illegally visited the occupied territories of Ukraine, presumably without official permit of the Ukrainian authorities.
https://www.epde.org/en/news/details/press-statement-russia-s-fraudulent-march-15-17-2024-presidential-election-validated-by-fake-observers-from-129-countries.html Sneuper ( talk) 08:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Moldova allowed only one polling station for Russian presidential election at the Russian Embassy to Moldova in Chisinau.
Initially, the Russian Embassy to Moldova said it would open 6 polling stations in Transnistria, bypassing Chisinau, for the Russian presidential election. In the end, 8 polling stations opened - two more for Russian soldiers. said so-called Transnistrian Foreign Minister Vitaly Ignatiev.
https://twitter.com/iamdenya_de/status/1772901183956434969 Sneuper ( talk) 11:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I wish to put forward an idea where we tally the number of votes for each candidate that came from the disputed and occupied territories, and perhaps emphasise that deducting the votes would have no impact on the outcome, due to the fact that the election was not free and fair anyway. I post this message due to the article being a contentious topic, hence second opinions are invited to prevent editor misunderstandings. If the idea is accepted, what sources should I use? -- Minoa ( talk) 21:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Originally Davankov and Slutsky were in the infobox, and they have since been removed. Typically candidates need >5% to be included, but the one candidate besides Putin included (Kharitontov), did not achieve that threshold. Specifically, I think because Davankov represents a lot of the Russian liberalist ideology (given how many votes he got abroad and in the north), his performance merits inclusion in the infobox. Or maybe not? I just curious about the logic behind including Kharitonov but Davankov or Slutsky. RickStrate2029 ( talk) 01:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
In an electoral dictatorship, those who are dependent on the government voted and those who have retained some independence stayed away. https://platformraam.nl/dossiers/rechtsstaat-en-civil-society/2576-wij-zijn-bondgenoten-van-oekraine-maar-we-hebben-onze-eigen-belangen Sneuper ( talk) 07:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a whole video with Putin's speech on voting days. I added English subtitles. Please consider to add to the article as an official document.
Vladimir Putin's speech on the eve of the 2024 presidential election.
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Alexei Navalny being barred from standing in 2024 is entirely relevant, as he is the most prominent
opposition figure in the country, and has been stopped from standing in presidential elections by what is widely considered to be a politically motivated sentence. How is that not relevant? The mention of this is to illustrate that many people, including Russians, believe that the 2024 election will not be free or fair. For you to disallow any mention of this on the article confirms you yourself do not want editing on the article itself to be free or fair. What I find most bizarre of all is that you say "what has he got to do with it", and yet you yourself have added opinion polls to the article which explicitly mention, and record statistics for, the support for Navalny, which shows he has and is being discussed in reference to the election. Furthermore, I would make the following point: you cannot say he is "irrelevant" simply because he has been barred from the election due to a criminal conviction, as that is notable in itself with him being the main opposition leader. The very fact that he has been widely discussed as being a political prisoner and been barred from elections for political motivations is of note in itself in relation to this election, and so his "criminal" conviction actually makes him of more relevance to this article, rather than of less significance as you claim.
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@ LauraWilliamson: Perhaps in your country, he is the most famous opposition candidate, but in Russia he is no more known than the leaders of some opposition parties (Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Sobchak, Yavlinsky, Kasyanov, etc.). His electoral rating is 1-2%, and in the best case, he ranks 3rd (You can check the polls). This does not make him such a significant possible candidate to write about him in the article header. I added it to the " Disqualified candidates" section. In this section are mentioned persons who declared their intention to run, but lost this right. Mr Savva ( talk) 07:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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@ LauraWilliamson: I'm warning you before you get to the edit war stage- I've given you suggestions of where to go to get advise. Continually trying to force a change over and over again is not one of those options. Multiple people have been reverting you- I've checked the history. So, either ask for a WP:3O or open a WP:RFC but do not keep trying to force information in. If those reverting you won't respond on the talk page- get more eyes on the project- don't wage a war on your own on the article. I've now got this page on my watch list- if the edits and reversions continue, I'll report it myself. Please solve the problem, not engage in endless back and forth. Nightenbelle ( talk) 17:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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@ LauraWilliamson: I just want to clarify my edit. Calling Nalvany " Russia’s most prominent opposition leader" is dubious. This can only be true from a Western point of view due to the coverage he received in the western media following his hospitalisation. From a Russian point of view, he is not very popular. The statement that his conviction is "widely seen as politically motivated" is also Western POV and this statement needs an attribution. Mottezen ( talk) 22:38, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
More coming.
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Also examples of sources from outside of "Western" countries:
LauraWilliamson ( talk) 23:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Moscow Times (an example of a Russian source)... owned by a dutch billionaire. All the other sources you mentioned have a western connection.
Its not an incendiary comment, its just something that clearly makes you feel uncomfortable as you don't agree with his politicsNo actually I agree with opponents of Putin and what I heard of Nalvany's Smart Voting tactic. But that's not why I'm WP:HERE.
so what is only getting 2% in the polls?It's, like, really low. Mottezen ( talk) 23:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
His most potent rival, Aleksey Navalny, had been disqualified before the campaign began because of his prior criminal conviction, seen as politically motivated. The presidential election was described by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has having "a lack of genuine competition".- Freddom House's designation of his conviction as politically motivated
LauraWilliamson ( talk) 00:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I’m not even arguing for the inclusion of RT sources in the article, I am just showing you a text from a scholar explaining why Nalvany is not very relevant in Russia, and quotes of Zhirinovsky opposing Putin to enhance the discussion. The Russian Communist party and the LDRP are opposition parties who like Putin more than they like the EU/USA, and support Putin’s foreign policy agenda most of the time. This makes western media outlets call them “pro-Putin” although the reality is more nuanced. Why would pro-Putin politicians repeatedly run against him in presidential election?
All I’m asking is for the removal or proper attribution of subjective statements, that is all. Mottezen ( talk) 01:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Also, I don't have to take this. @ LauraWilliamson:, can you please strike through your comments calling my objections "stupid" and calling me "nationalist", "exclusionist", and to "stick to the Russian Wikipedia". This is really offensive. Mottezen ( talk) 05:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
The Russian Communist party and the LDRP are opposition parties- For Putin, of course, it is very convenient to choose his own "opposition" and not allow real opposition parties to participate in the elections, as well as to kill and imprison real opposition figures, such as Navalny. But here no one is obliged to participate in this boring circus.-- Nicoljaus ( talk) 07:37, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Navalny has long been astroturfed by the West and within Russia he has (at least up until his poisoning) been a fringe figure. PailSimon ( talk) 11:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
I think the whole section is pure WP:Original research as it's simple speculations that lack credible sources. The WP:NOTOR isn't relevant here either. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 16:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ustin Chashchikhin (Устин Чащихин) announced that he is going to participate in election, but he's not a politician (he's a writer) so I don't know if he should be mentioned in this article 2A00:1FA0:44AD:C7EF:B02A:AA0:D171:DE15 ( talk) 10:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
I propose merging Candidates in the 2024 Russian presidential election into 2024 Russian presidential election. I think the content in the former is mostly already contained in the latter already, and a merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in this article. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Mr Savva, Mr Savva, and Onel5969:
@ Mellk: you do not have a consensus to remove such large amounts of content. Some of that content has been there for weeks, it is incorrect to claim that your version that is only days old is the stable version. you should self revert. ObserverSpider ( talk) 14:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
March 8, 2024 by Russian Field: Vladimir Putin - 81.8%, Vladislav Davankov - 7.4%, Nikolai Kharitonov - 6.5%, Leonid Slutsky - 3.9%. Would someone please be so kind as to add this to the table. I can't do it. Source: https://t.me/rusbrief/207450 Sneuper ( talk) 16:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
How did this thing show up? Number 69 420 18:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Apparently he won the election with around 80 percent of the vote but there is no mention of him winning the election Csmith309 ( talk) 22:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
What to do with the tweets about spoiled ballots? https://twitter.com/khodorkovsky_en/status/1768940164447948983 https://twitter.com/ovdinfo_en/status/1769366629383643433
Sneuper ( talk) 10:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
I read an online article about (international + national) election observers during the elections, but I can not find that article again. Normally, election observers are present at polling stations, among others, and report their findings from all stages of the election procedures. Sneuper ( talk) 07:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Ahead of the presidential 'election' in Russia scheduled for 15-17 March 2024, the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance (International IDEA) wishes to underscore the importance of upholding the defining principles of independent international election observation. Unfortunately, Russia has once again decided not to invite long-established, impartial and professional international election observer organizations such as the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (OSCE/ODIHR) to observe the upcoming 'election'. Instead, Russian authorities misleadingly claim to have invited '500 to 1,000 international observers from more than 100 countries,' who in fact do not represent observer missions but a visitors programme. https://www.idea.int/news/call-representatives-democratic-nations-abstain-russias-election-visitors-programme https://tass.com/politics/1759269
Golos is not allowed to send observers. It was first labelled a "foreign agent" in 2013, having angered the authorities by publishing evidence of fraud in a 2011 parliamentary vote and a 2012 presidential election won by Putin. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/independent-vote-monitor-says-russian-elections-are-most-secret-ever-2024-03-15/ Golos denounces that the electronic voting system is an opaque system because only the final figures are visible on a screen, but access to the code is restricted to the Kremlin’s computer scientists. Moreover, via this method, it is easier to check whether a citizen has voted as the authorities wish. https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-15/russia-goes-to-the-polls-in-elections-tailored-to-guarantee-putin-power-until-2030.html
Russian Federation flouts international commitments once again with decision not to invite OSCE observers to presidential election On January 29, a representative from the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) announced that the organisation would not participate in international monitoring of the presidential election in Russia on March 15-17 citing the lack of an invitation from the Russian side. https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/russia/562065 https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/international_safety/1928501/
Independent observers also say the authorities have means at their disposal to manage the results, including vote-rigging, ballot-stuffing and using millions of state employees to back the status quo. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240311-five-things-russia-presidential-election-vladimir-putin-ukraine-protest-navalny-economy
Why are two parties colored in each of the rows? We only would do that if no party had more than 50%, meaning that two parties would advance to a runoff. However, none of the polls had Putin at or under 50%, indicating a first-round victory, in which case we would not color-in the second-place party. SecretName101 ( talk) 02:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
To include the person who won the 3rd place in the presidential election, they must have at least 5% of the vote to be included in the table. อย่ามาตบะ ( talk) 06:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
China, Iran, Belarus, Serbia, North Korea and Venezuela have so far congratulated Putin on his victory. This should be included in the reactions section of the article as currently it’s extremely one sided to negative reactions from western countries. This is the only way to be impartial and informative to the reader. 78.87.12.241 ( talk) 09:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add other foreing reactions: China, Iran ETC Freethinker1234 ( talk) 09:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Wouldn't it actually be federal subject? Region sounds overly broad to me. 115.188.117.112 ( talk) 09:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Should we create an article about Opinion polls for the 2024 Russian presidential election like the 2018 one and before, named "Opinion polling for the 2024 Russian presidential election"? RANDOM account 13:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
In the fifth paragraph of the International section under Reactions ("adding that that the vote was...") there's an extra that. It's been bugging me all day, somebody please fix it. 207.236.12.74 ( talk) 18:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Paragraph 4, Sentence 6, Clause 2 should be “An independent newspaper”, not “And independent newspaper” 97.127.27.92 ( talk) 21:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Done PianoDan ( talk) 21:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the fourth paragraph, correct this sentence
Opposition leader Alexei Navalny, viewed as the most viable Putin rival, was imprisoned on politically motivated charges in 2021, was imprisoned at a remote Arctic penal colony in 2021; his prison term was repeatedly extended, and he was deemed ineligible for the ballot.
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Opposition leader Alexei Navalny, viewed as the most viable Putin rival, was imprisoned at a remote Arctic penal colony in 2021 on politically motivated charges; the prison term was repeatedly extended, and he was deemed ineligible for the ballot.
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Please fix the Wikitext here:
− | In November 2023, former member of the [[State Duma]], [[Boris | + | In November 2023, former member of the [[State Duma]], [[Boris Nadezhdin]], became the first person backed by a registered political party to announce his candidacy, running on an [[Anti-war protests in Russia (2022–present)|anti-war]] platform. |
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The section listing over a dozen countries sending congratulations to Putin does not conform to other election pages. Where typically many of the countries are listed separately with a brief statement and from which head of state or ambassador gave it. I would expect that to be added for China, India, Iran, etc. Look at the international reactions section on any other Wikipedia page and make this conform to those. Thank you. 108.39.196.77 ( talk) 07:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
In section Results, first table "by candidates" the turnout should be inserted.
In section Results, second table "by regions" it would be better to add 'amount of voters' and 'turnout' per region in added columns Sneuper ( talk) 09:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
I've made a subject-by-subject map of the election, so I think it would be nice to add it to the article. It's definitely one of the most depressing maps I've ever drawn, but here we are. Also, I would like to request some additions:
GlebRyabov ( talk) 09:59, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
According to its own poll by Extreme Scan (an international network of sociologists who focus on Russia, Ukraine and Belarus), Putin would have been elected in one voting round without fraud. The Amsterdam-based opposition video channel Dozhd presented the results of 'independent exit polls' on election night in which Putin was supported by at least 55 percent of voters and 37 percent had voted against all candidates by invalidating the ballot paper. Extreme Scan's survey also illustrated how effective the policy is in forcing Russians to vote for their jobs. On Friday, Putin is said to have received 60% of the votes, on Sunday 44%, barely more than the number of invalidated ballots. The reliability of this poll is difficult to assess. No fewer than 37% of voters refused to speak to the volunteers of this exit poll.
Sneuper ( talk) 12:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Section Allegations of irregularities:
The initial estimate put the number of fake votes at 31.6 million, but Moscow was later excluded from the analysis due to widespread online voting in the capital, a form of voting that makes it difficult to track turnout. Only the number 31,6 has to change in 22. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/19/at-least-22-million-fake-votes-cast-for-putin-in-presidential-election-en-news Sneuper ( talk) 14:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Abnormally high levels of electoral fraud recorded in 46 Russian regions. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/21/abnormally-high-levels-of-electoral-fraud-recorded-in-46-russian-regions-en-news
Eritrea [14]
Morocco [15]
Yemen (Supreme Political Council) [16]
Central African Republic, Zimbabwe [17]
Libya [18]
Laos [19]
Pakistan [20]
Cambodia [21]
Hamas [22]
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184.187.43.222 (
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After the outcome, the Kremlin can claim that nine out of ten Russians are also responsible for the war with the 'collective West'. Anyone who dares to make a comment is a priori a traitor to the will of the people. Every path to a peaceful political power formation can be closed by the election results. The administrative and economic elite can be purged. The culturicide in Ukraine has become a war of extermination of the entire nation, not only Putin's war. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/20/poetins-verkiezingszege-geeft-het-startschot-voor-zijn-nietsontziende-staatsterreur-a4193685 Sneuper ( talk) 09:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, massive attack on Ukrainian energy infrastructure. Putin waited for the elections with the vote count rigged in his favor. That outcome made the entire Russian population complicit in his war of extermination. Sneuper ( talk) 09:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, the Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov referred to Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine as a “war” in an interview with state-owned daily newspaper Argumenty i Fakty. https://aif.ru/politics/peskov-prokommentiroval-pravovoy-status-specoperacii Sneuper ( talk) 12:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On March 22, reported the independent Russian outlet Verstka that Russia’s Defense Ministry intended to send another 300,000 troops to the war in Ukraine amid plans to launch a siege on Kharkiv. This by mobilizing reservists and conscripts whose military service is ending into signing contracts. Also in Moscow, defense companies and state-funded organizations started issuing mobilization exemption certificates to employees, and military enlistment offices called back lawyers and psychologists who were involved in the fall 2022 mobilization as preparation “mobilization 2.0.” https://verstka.media/kak-vlasti-budut-prizyvat-rossiyan-v-voyska-dlia-nastupleniya-na-harkov Sneuper ( talk) 13:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
The voter map abroad is incorrect. So should be updated or removed. For example, Putin in Norway took 58.14% of the vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4645:B0B3:0:C5BA:FC22:9BDA:FB98 ( talk) 03:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
In Russia percentages of votes for candidates are counted from all recieved ballots, including spoiled ballots. Here, on the other hand, percentages are given out of valid ballots. This is not only a practice that is different from official one given by Russian Central Electoral Comission, but also omits an important movement of intentionally spoiling ballots. 93.175.28.10 ( talk) 15:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
On 22 March, Russian independent news outlet Agentstvo reported that Kremlin-linked accounts launched a disinformation campaign on X aimed at convincing foreign audiences that the recent Russian presidential election was legitimate. Messages with similar content were posted on X between 18 March and 19 March in English, French, German, and Ukrainian. According to Agentstvo, the messages compared Russia’s “competitive and fair” elections to Ukraine’s decision to cancel the presidential election this year. Other accounts posited that Ukraine should not “cancel” everything to do with Russia. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/03/22/russian-disinformation-campaign-promoting-putins-legitimacy-reported-on-x-en-news Sneuper ( talk) 18:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
In the text are terms i.e. 'Anti-Putin activists' or 'exiled activists'. I prefer a more neutral description. These people are concerned with a just and fair election process with the best possible approximation of the correct numbers of voters per candidate. Sneuper ( talk) 08:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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I love wikipebia OwO ( talk) 19:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
European Platform for Democratic Elections listed the international election observers partly. EPDE was able so far to identify approx. 150 of the observers and “experts”. In the table EPDE presents selected names of citizens of European countries that appeared in Russian mass media. The full report will be published in the upcoming weeks.
According to the official data, 706 of the “observers” were officially accredited. The 224 participants of the World Youth Forum, held in Sochi from March 1-7,2024, were also invited to observe the elections as "experts." At least 34 of the “observers” illegally visited the occupied territories of Ukraine, presumably without official permit of the Ukrainian authorities.
https://www.epde.org/en/news/details/press-statement-russia-s-fraudulent-march-15-17-2024-presidential-election-validated-by-fake-observers-from-129-countries.html Sneuper ( talk) 08:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Moldova allowed only one polling station for Russian presidential election at the Russian Embassy to Moldova in Chisinau.
Initially, the Russian Embassy to Moldova said it would open 6 polling stations in Transnistria, bypassing Chisinau, for the Russian presidential election. In the end, 8 polling stations opened - two more for Russian soldiers. said so-called Transnistrian Foreign Minister Vitaly Ignatiev.
https://twitter.com/iamdenya_de/status/1772901183956434969 Sneuper ( talk) 11:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I wish to put forward an idea where we tally the number of votes for each candidate that came from the disputed and occupied territories, and perhaps emphasise that deducting the votes would have no impact on the outcome, due to the fact that the election was not free and fair anyway. I post this message due to the article being a contentious topic, hence second opinions are invited to prevent editor misunderstandings. If the idea is accepted, what sources should I use? -- Minoa ( talk) 21:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Originally Davankov and Slutsky were in the infobox, and they have since been removed. Typically candidates need >5% to be included, but the one candidate besides Putin included (Kharitontov), did not achieve that threshold. Specifically, I think because Davankov represents a lot of the Russian liberalist ideology (given how many votes he got abroad and in the north), his performance merits inclusion in the infobox. Or maybe not? I just curious about the logic behind including Kharitonov but Davankov or Slutsky. RickStrate2029 ( talk) 01:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
In an electoral dictatorship, those who are dependent on the government voted and those who have retained some independence stayed away. https://platformraam.nl/dossiers/rechtsstaat-en-civil-society/2576-wij-zijn-bondgenoten-van-oekraine-maar-we-hebben-onze-eigen-belangen Sneuper ( talk) 07:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a whole video with Putin's speech on voting days. I added English subtitles. Please consider to add to the article as an official document.
Vladimir Putin's speech on the eve of the 2024 presidential election.
Pacha Tchernof ( talk) 22:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC)