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Frequently asked questions Q1: Why don't you rename this article 2023 T眉rkiye鈥揝yria earthquake, the official name for the first listed country? A1: Because the English-language Wikipedia has a WP:COMMONNAME policy. We use names for countries and places that are the names commonly used for them in English, regardless of what official organizations use. Technically, this kind of name is known as an exonym. For example, we use the name Germany, instead of the native endonym Deutschland. If or when that general English-language usage changes (as has happened in the past with place names such as Mumbai and Beijing), the same WP:COMMONNAME policy implies that the English-language Wikipedia will necessarily also follow suit. So far, that hasn't happened. This has been discussed many times at Talk:Turkey, with the same result every time because of the common name policy; there is currently a moratorium at Talk:Turkey on further requests for name changes until 1 December 2023. Until that article is moved, this article will use Turkey in the article. |
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The epicenter of the Kahramanmaras earthquake of February 6 was within the borders of west鈥搉orthwest of Gaziantep, that is, Turkey. The fact that it also affected Syria does not mean that the earthquake took place in Syria. For example, 2008 Sichuan earthquake also affected Tayland, but it is not called a China-Tayland earthquake because its epicenter is in a town within the borders of China. I think the title should be changed to Gaziantep, Turkey earthquake. Zyzyyz ( talk) 10:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not appeal only to Turkish viewers hence I see no reason why the title should be changed now.
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Why does the article state, that it is the deadliest natural disaster in modern history? 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami? 130.225.188.128 ( talk) 08:58, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) 鉂澂鉂 Raydann (Talk) 20:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
2023 Turkey鈥揝yria earthquake 鈫 2023 Turkey鈥揝yria earthquakes 鈥 Since this was last discussed, a large number of scientific publications have appeared (currently 61 in number - they can be viewed by clicking on the isc link in the infobox) and the majority (>70%) of these refer to (in order of use) "earthquakes", "earthquake doublet" or "earthquake sequence" in the title with less than a quarter (23%) using "earthquake". Based on this there is enough evidence to support a change to "earthquakes" in the title as proposed per WP:COMMONNAME Mikenorton ( talk) 20:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
A new article by AFP citing Turkey officials said the total death toll is 59,488 including 53,537 in Turkey.
The article then says the number of deaths in Syria is 4,537 in rebel-held areas and 1,414 in government-held areas.
Currently the Wikipedia article states 8,476 deaths in Syria according to IBC published in April 2023. SOHR puts the total toll at 6,795; 4,547 in rebel-held area and 2,248 in government-held area.
Considering the humanitarian crisis in Syria prior to the earthquake, the death toll discrepancy is not a huge surprise. However I want to know how should Wikipedia go around this. Should we provide a range for the death toll in Syria or follow the latest AFP article? Dora the Axe-plorer ( explore) 13:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Frequently asked questions Q1: Why don't you rename this article 2023 T眉rkiye鈥揝yria earthquake, the official name for the first listed country? A1: Because the English-language Wikipedia has a WP:COMMONNAME policy. We use names for countries and places that are the names commonly used for them in English, regardless of what official organizations use. Technically, this kind of name is known as an exonym. For example, we use the name Germany, instead of the native endonym Deutschland. If or when that general English-language usage changes (as has happened in the past with place names such as Mumbai and Beijing), the same WP:COMMONNAME policy implies that the English-language Wikipedia will necessarily also follow suit. So far, that hasn't happened. This has been discussed many times at Talk:Turkey, with the same result every time because of the common name policy; there is currently a moratorium at Talk:Turkey on further requests for name changes until 1 December 2023. Until that article is moved, this article will use Turkey in the article. |
A news item involving 2023 Turkey鈥揝yria earthquakes was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 6 February 2023. |
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The epicenter of the Kahramanmaras earthquake of February 6 was within the borders of west鈥搉orthwest of Gaziantep, that is, Turkey. The fact that it also affected Syria does not mean that the earthquake took place in Syria. For example, 2008 Sichuan earthquake also affected Tayland, but it is not called a China-Tayland earthquake because its epicenter is in a town within the borders of China. I think the title should be changed to Gaziantep, Turkey earthquake. Zyzyyz ( talk) 10:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not appeal only to Turkish viewers hence I see no reason why the title should be changed now.
Dora the Axe-plorer (
explore)
14:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Why does the article state, that it is the deadliest natural disaster in modern history? 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami? 130.225.188.128 ( talk) 08:58, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) 鉂澂鉂 Raydann (Talk) 20:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
2023 Turkey鈥揝yria earthquake 鈫 2023 Turkey鈥揝yria earthquakes 鈥 Since this was last discussed, a large number of scientific publications have appeared (currently 61 in number - they can be viewed by clicking on the isc link in the infobox) and the majority (>70%) of these refer to (in order of use) "earthquakes", "earthquake doublet" or "earthquake sequence" in the title with less than a quarter (23%) using "earthquake". Based on this there is enough evidence to support a change to "earthquakes" in the title as proposed per WP:COMMONNAME Mikenorton ( talk) 20:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
A new article by AFP citing Turkey officials said the total death toll is 59,488 including 53,537 in Turkey.
The article then says the number of deaths in Syria is 4,537 in rebel-held areas and 1,414 in government-held areas.
Currently the Wikipedia article states 8,476 deaths in Syria according to IBC published in April 2023. SOHR puts the total toll at 6,795; 4,547 in rebel-held area and 2,248 in government-held area.
Considering the humanitarian crisis in Syria prior to the earthquake, the death toll discrepancy is not a huge surprise. However I want to know how should Wikipedia go around this. Should we provide a range for the death toll in Syria or follow the latest AFP article? Dora the Axe-plorer ( explore) 13:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)