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The strike hasn't even begun yet, the article could wait. Linkin Prankster ( talk) 20:09, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
The leaders of SAG-AFTRA, the union representing 160,000 television and movie actors, announced the strike after negotiations with studios over a new contract collapsed, with streaming services and artificial intelligence at the center of the standoff. On Friday, the actors will join screenwriters, who walked off the job in May, on picket lines in New York, Los Angeles and the dozens of other American cities where scripted shows and movies are made.[5]
The SAG-AFTRA strike will begin at midnight. Union leaders said members and staff will be joining picket lines Friday.[6]
Unable to reach a deal with producers, members of The Screen Actors Guild - American Federation of Television and Radio Artists will join up with more than 11,000 already striking film and television writers starting at midnight.[7]
SAG-AFTRA, the union that represents about 160,000 actors, is set to strike at midnight PT Friday morning after talks with major studios and streaming services have failed.[8]
"They proposed that our background actors should be able to be scanned, get paid for one day's pay, and their company should own that scan, their image, their likeness and to be able to use it for the rest of eternity in any project they want with no consent and no compensation." - SAG-AFTRA National Executive Director Duncan Crabtree-Ireland [1]
See also: The Congress (2013 film) 85.147.66.47 ( talk) 00:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
References
In background:
SAG-AFTRA/WAG are on one side of the dispute, and AMPTP is on the other. It makes no sense to say SAG-AFTRA is represented by AMPTP. But I'm also not sure what the sentence is trying to convey, so I'm not sure how to reword it. -- Chris 12:59, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
A note on the usage of the definite article. Unlike the Writers Guild of America (WGA) and the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), SAG-AFTRA does not use the definite article "the" when written as an acronym. "SAG" or "SAG-AFTRA" are correct. "The SAG" or "The SAG-AFTRA" are both incorrect. Only use a definite article when writing the union's full name, as in "The Screen Actors Guild". Refer to SAG-AFTRA for usage. The strike itself needs a definite article ("The strike" or "The SAG-AFTRA strike" are fine) but SAG-AFTRA itself does not. RobotGoggles ( talk) 17:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I added some productions in the not affected section that wrapped filming, like Captain America: Brave New World and The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. I noticed that they were taken off and I was wondering if you consider projects that wrapped filming to be unaffected, when projects that finished their screenplay were considered unaffected by the WGA strike? Thanks. Randazzojj123 ( talk) 18:17, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
@ IgelRM: I'm not sure why you decided to move this page without opening a move request and off of consensus that does not exist. This article is titled appropriately; there are plenty of actors in New York City who are also striking, and not all Hollywood actors are on strike. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
The article need some clarity, I understand it might be scripted films and TV (scripted radio if there is still any) but for example, I was listening to radio journalism, they disclosed they are members of SAG AFTRA while reporting on the strike, but said something like they are not covered by the contract that is causing the strike and thus not on strike, and there is likely others, so I hope someone in the know can explain it in this article (with cites). Alanscottwalker ( talk) 22:03, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Might it not be worth highlighting in the article to that Bob Iger, who called the actors’ demands “not realistic” on TV on the morning the strike was called, "recently signed a contract to run the company through 2026 and makes about $27 million a year"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.2.104 ( talk) 18:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Okay, okay - but what about adding something about the need for pay cuts for the few - not the many? For are not people more likely to bite the hand that refuses to feed them well?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.2.104 ( talk) 19:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I feel it is worth including a section outlining the key issues being negotiated, with information about what is being asked for vs. what is being offered for each. Currently the issues are only mentioned in the sidebar ('Caused by'), but without any further information or links. (By the way, this is my first ever Wikipedia edit, so please be kind!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steviej2802 ( talk • contribs) 13:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Move request has now been bundled with the request at Talk:SAG-AFTRA#Requested move 20 July 2023. Pings for participants will follow soon. ( non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
2023 SAG-AFTRA strike → 2023 SAG–AFTRA strike – MOS:DASH Wow ( talk) 07:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:SAG-AFTRA which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 22:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
2023 SAG-AFTRA strike captain, Sue Berch, in New York City, said watching video of Bill Maher's podcast, Club Random, with guest Jim Gaffigan left her "annoyed".
<ref name="deadline/1235537238">{{cite web |last1=Piccoli |first1=Sean |title=Dispatches From The Picket Lines: Striking Actors Dump On Bill Maher & Decry AI During NYC Rallies |url=https://deadline.com/2023/09/hollywood-strikes-picket-lines-new-york-2-1235537238/ |website=Deadline |date=5 September 2023}}</ref><ref name="youtube=WUSWY6t4sqw">{{cite web |author1=Club Random with Bill Maher |title=Jim Gaffigan |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUSWY6t4sqw |website=youtube |access-date=6 September 2023 |language=en |date=September 3, 2023}}<!-- https://www.youtube.com/@ClubRandomPodcast --></ref>
How has Gavin Newsom tried to negotiate an end to the strike? Was it in good faith? What was his proposal and why was it shot down? Is this even notable enough for a Wikipedia article? 2603:7000:D03A:5895:51E6:DC36:74F8:D2BD ( talk) 22:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
There are no credible sources to suggest that the strike has ended. We need to make sure these malicious unsourced edits do not continue to occur. Users like Ryudama and Chunlidama continue to try to use Wikipedia to spread misinformation about this labor dispute. Can we please stop them from making these bad faith edits? MooseinaBar ( talk) 18:23, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
The optimistic progress was reported on the 29th, not the 28th. GuyUser81 ( talk) 00:45, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
This article refers to PDT after Daylight Saving had ended in the US in 2023. It should say PST or simply PT. 75.193.74.1 ( talk) 13:14, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
I can't believe someone put a SEMI-PROTECTION on this article until 11/12/2023. Really? What gives them the right to do this? I demand you to remove the SEMI-PROTECTION padlock right now and let them edit. MAKE WIKIPEDIA GREAT AGAIN, This is supposed to be 'The Free Encyclopedia'.
I want that padlock gone from the article right now. If you refuse, I'll be upset. The So-Called Protection Policies are a joke...Once again, it's time to MAKE WIKIPEDIA GREAT AGAIN!
End of my complaint. Spencer H. Karter ( talk) 14:13, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
What was agreed upon by the actors, what are the new conditions? It needs at least a summary table of the new agreement. -- 2803:C600:5115:EC8D:4540:3B87:474D:E819 ( talk) 11:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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On 20 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2023 SAG–AFTRA strike. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
The strike hasn't even begun yet, the article could wait. Linkin Prankster ( talk) 20:09, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
The leaders of SAG-AFTRA, the union representing 160,000 television and movie actors, announced the strike after negotiations with studios over a new contract collapsed, with streaming services and artificial intelligence at the center of the standoff. On Friday, the actors will join screenwriters, who walked off the job in May, on picket lines in New York, Los Angeles and the dozens of other American cities where scripted shows and movies are made.[5]
The SAG-AFTRA strike will begin at midnight. Union leaders said members and staff will be joining picket lines Friday.[6]
Unable to reach a deal with producers, members of The Screen Actors Guild - American Federation of Television and Radio Artists will join up with more than 11,000 already striking film and television writers starting at midnight.[7]
SAG-AFTRA, the union that represents about 160,000 actors, is set to strike at midnight PT Friday morning after talks with major studios and streaming services have failed.[8]
"They proposed that our background actors should be able to be scanned, get paid for one day's pay, and their company should own that scan, their image, their likeness and to be able to use it for the rest of eternity in any project they want with no consent and no compensation." - SAG-AFTRA National Executive Director Duncan Crabtree-Ireland [1]
See also: The Congress (2013 film) 85.147.66.47 ( talk) 00:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
References
In background:
SAG-AFTRA/WAG are on one side of the dispute, and AMPTP is on the other. It makes no sense to say SAG-AFTRA is represented by AMPTP. But I'm also not sure what the sentence is trying to convey, so I'm not sure how to reword it. -- Chris 12:59, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
A note on the usage of the definite article. Unlike the Writers Guild of America (WGA) and the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), SAG-AFTRA does not use the definite article "the" when written as an acronym. "SAG" or "SAG-AFTRA" are correct. "The SAG" or "The SAG-AFTRA" are both incorrect. Only use a definite article when writing the union's full name, as in "The Screen Actors Guild". Refer to SAG-AFTRA for usage. The strike itself needs a definite article ("The strike" or "The SAG-AFTRA strike" are fine) but SAG-AFTRA itself does not. RobotGoggles ( talk) 17:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I added some productions in the not affected section that wrapped filming, like Captain America: Brave New World and The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. I noticed that they were taken off and I was wondering if you consider projects that wrapped filming to be unaffected, when projects that finished their screenplay were considered unaffected by the WGA strike? Thanks. Randazzojj123 ( talk) 18:17, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
@ IgelRM: I'm not sure why you decided to move this page without opening a move request and off of consensus that does not exist. This article is titled appropriately; there are plenty of actors in New York City who are also striking, and not all Hollywood actors are on strike. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
The article need some clarity, I understand it might be scripted films and TV (scripted radio if there is still any) but for example, I was listening to radio journalism, they disclosed they are members of SAG AFTRA while reporting on the strike, but said something like they are not covered by the contract that is causing the strike and thus not on strike, and there is likely others, so I hope someone in the know can explain it in this article (with cites). Alanscottwalker ( talk) 22:03, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Might it not be worth highlighting in the article to that Bob Iger, who called the actors’ demands “not realistic” on TV on the morning the strike was called, "recently signed a contract to run the company through 2026 and makes about $27 million a year"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.2.104 ( talk) 18:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Okay, okay - but what about adding something about the need for pay cuts for the few - not the many? For are not people more likely to bite the hand that refuses to feed them well?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.2.104 ( talk) 19:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I feel it is worth including a section outlining the key issues being negotiated, with information about what is being asked for vs. what is being offered for each. Currently the issues are only mentioned in the sidebar ('Caused by'), but without any further information or links. (By the way, this is my first ever Wikipedia edit, so please be kind!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steviej2802 ( talk • contribs) 13:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Move request has now been bundled with the request at Talk:SAG-AFTRA#Requested move 20 July 2023. Pings for participants will follow soon. ( non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
2023 SAG-AFTRA strike → 2023 SAG–AFTRA strike – MOS:DASH Wow ( talk) 07:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:SAG-AFTRA which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 22:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
2023 SAG-AFTRA strike captain, Sue Berch, in New York City, said watching video of Bill Maher's podcast, Club Random, with guest Jim Gaffigan left her "annoyed".
<ref name="deadline/1235537238">{{cite web |last1=Piccoli |first1=Sean |title=Dispatches From The Picket Lines: Striking Actors Dump On Bill Maher & Decry AI During NYC Rallies |url=https://deadline.com/2023/09/hollywood-strikes-picket-lines-new-york-2-1235537238/ |website=Deadline |date=5 September 2023}}</ref><ref name="youtube=WUSWY6t4sqw">{{cite web |author1=Club Random with Bill Maher |title=Jim Gaffigan |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUSWY6t4sqw |website=youtube |access-date=6 September 2023 |language=en |date=September 3, 2023}}<!-- https://www.youtube.com/@ClubRandomPodcast --></ref>
How has Gavin Newsom tried to negotiate an end to the strike? Was it in good faith? What was his proposal and why was it shot down? Is this even notable enough for a Wikipedia article? 2603:7000:D03A:5895:51E6:DC36:74F8:D2BD ( talk) 22:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
There are no credible sources to suggest that the strike has ended. We need to make sure these malicious unsourced edits do not continue to occur. Users like Ryudama and Chunlidama continue to try to use Wikipedia to spread misinformation about this labor dispute. Can we please stop them from making these bad faith edits? MooseinaBar ( talk) 18:23, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
The optimistic progress was reported on the 29th, not the 28th. GuyUser81 ( talk) 00:45, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
This article refers to PDT after Daylight Saving had ended in the US in 2023. It should say PST or simply PT. 75.193.74.1 ( talk) 13:14, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
I can't believe someone put a SEMI-PROTECTION on this article until 11/12/2023. Really? What gives them the right to do this? I demand you to remove the SEMI-PROTECTION padlock right now and let them edit. MAKE WIKIPEDIA GREAT AGAIN, This is supposed to be 'The Free Encyclopedia'.
I want that padlock gone from the article right now. If you refuse, I'll be upset. The So-Called Protection Policies are a joke...Once again, it's time to MAKE WIKIPEDIA GREAT AGAIN!
End of my complaint. Spencer H. Karter ( talk) 14:13, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
What was agreed upon by the actors, what are the new conditions? It needs at least a summary table of the new agreement. -- 2803:C600:5115:EC8D:4540:3B87:474D:E819 ( talk) 11:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)