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I'm looking through past draft pages and there doesn't seem to be consistency between whether transactions are merged or split. Transactions for a pick involving more than two teams can either be (a) merged and placed at the end, (b) split, with pre-draft and draft-day trades in different locations, or (c) split and listed after all teams. Even if draft-day trade edits are not considered, there was already inconsistency between (a) and (c). There's even one more option, which is to split and list after each team's transaction.
See /info/en/?search=2020_NBA_draft for examples of each. You can find (a) in pick 16 (Isaiah Stewart) or pick 32 (Vernon Carey Jr.), (b) in pick 17 (Pokusevski), and (c) in pick 47 (Yam Madar).
And then there's this example from /info/en/?search=2019_NBA_draft, Admiral Schofield's, where there were three pre-draft trades. Two were combined, one was separated. Maybe they were combined by transaction year?
In essence, it appears to me there's no one convention that's agreed upon, even within a single draft page. Despite my editing the page to follow (c), I'm leaning toward changing it to (b) or my extra suggestion. Thoughts?
A quick clean-up of previous NBA draft pages to align these inconsistencies may be useful for future readers as well, if we can all agree on a desired format.
AdequateNBAfan ( talk) 20:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
G. Timothy Walton ( talk) 22:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! I'll revise based on your comments. I understand why I thought there were inconsistencies in past NBA draft listings.
As a note to future editors, transactions are combined unless they involve more than one pick in the same draft (either multiple picks or swaps), in which case they're split (chronologically) so they can be referenced in multiple locations. I understand minimizing the number of references, but it's still a bit jarring to me to have three trades occur in one citation, then one trade occur in the next because that trade involves multiple #### year's picks. Still, I see the method behind the madness now and I'll make sure these I follow these guidelines moving forward.
My bad, I should have been clearer. When I said "split and listed after all teams," I meant within one pick's set of transactions.
To confirm, are you saying it would be preferable to specify the pick's origin in these pick details? This information appears to beincluded for a couple of picks, especially really unclear ones (Clippers trading Heat picks). I can see it being particularly confusing for a pick conveyed across multiple teams or a pick involved in a 3+-team trade.
Fine by me.
AdequateNBAfan ( talk) 23:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Terrence Clarke was posthumously selected by NBA Commissioner Adam Silver as a ceremonial pick. It seems appropriate to mention that somewhere in the article. ekedolphin ( talk) 11:40, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I know that trades aren't official until the teams issue a press release. It appears some of the trades added to the picks may not be official yet. G. Timothy Walton ( talk) 23:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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I'm looking through past draft pages and there doesn't seem to be consistency between whether transactions are merged or split. Transactions for a pick involving more than two teams can either be (a) merged and placed at the end, (b) split, with pre-draft and draft-day trades in different locations, or (c) split and listed after all teams. Even if draft-day trade edits are not considered, there was already inconsistency between (a) and (c). There's even one more option, which is to split and list after each team's transaction.
See /info/en/?search=2020_NBA_draft for examples of each. You can find (a) in pick 16 (Isaiah Stewart) or pick 32 (Vernon Carey Jr.), (b) in pick 17 (Pokusevski), and (c) in pick 47 (Yam Madar).
And then there's this example from /info/en/?search=2019_NBA_draft, Admiral Schofield's, where there were three pre-draft trades. Two were combined, one was separated. Maybe they were combined by transaction year?
In essence, it appears to me there's no one convention that's agreed upon, even within a single draft page. Despite my editing the page to follow (c), I'm leaning toward changing it to (b) or my extra suggestion. Thoughts?
A quick clean-up of previous NBA draft pages to align these inconsistencies may be useful for future readers as well, if we can all agree on a desired format.
AdequateNBAfan ( talk) 20:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
G. Timothy Walton ( talk) 22:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! I'll revise based on your comments. I understand why I thought there were inconsistencies in past NBA draft listings.
As a note to future editors, transactions are combined unless they involve more than one pick in the same draft (either multiple picks or swaps), in which case they're split (chronologically) so they can be referenced in multiple locations. I understand minimizing the number of references, but it's still a bit jarring to me to have three trades occur in one citation, then one trade occur in the next because that trade involves multiple #### year's picks. Still, I see the method behind the madness now and I'll make sure these I follow these guidelines moving forward.
My bad, I should have been clearer. When I said "split and listed after all teams," I meant within one pick's set of transactions.
To confirm, are you saying it would be preferable to specify the pick's origin in these pick details? This information appears to beincluded for a couple of picks, especially really unclear ones (Clippers trading Heat picks). I can see it being particularly confusing for a pick conveyed across multiple teams or a pick involved in a 3+-team trade.
Fine by me.
AdequateNBAfan ( talk) 23:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Terrence Clarke was posthumously selected by NBA Commissioner Adam Silver as a ceremonial pick. It seems appropriate to mention that somewhere in the article. ekedolphin ( talk) 11:40, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I know that trades aren't official until the teams issue a press release. It appears some of the trades added to the picks may not be official yet. G. Timothy Walton ( talk) 23:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)